NPR logo

Salvia Ingredient Studied As Medical Treatment

  • Download
  • <iframe src="" width="100%" height="290" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" title="NPR embedded audio player">
  • Transcript
Salvia Ingredient Studied As Medical Treatment

Research News

Salvia Ingredient Studied As Medical Treatment

Salvia Ingredient Studied As Medical Treatment

  • Download
  • <iframe src="" width="100%" height="290" frameborder="0" scrolling="no" title="NPR embedded audio player">
  • Transcript

There's a long history of trying to turn mind altering drugs like LSD into something that would be useful for therapies. Scientists are trying to do that with the latest popular hallucinogen. It's called Salvia Divinorin. It's been in the news lately because teen idol Mylie Cyrus was apparently caught on video smoking it.


There's a long history of scientists trying to turn mind-altering drugs into something that would make a useful therapy. Now they're trying to do that with a hallucinogen that is legal in many states and becoming more popular. It's been in the news lately because teen-idol Miley Cyrus was caught on video apparently smoking it. Some scientists believe the active ingredient could turn out to be valuable for treating problems such as drug addiction, chronic pain and manic depression.

NPR's Joe Palca reports.

JOE PALCA: Salvia divinorum is a plant. It's a member of the mint family. Smoking it sends users on an otherworldly voyage.

Dr. MATTHEW JOHNSON (Johns Hopkins Medical School): Some people would speculate that it's another dimension. Others would describe it as the spirit world.

PALCA: Matthew Johnson studies hallucinogenic drugs at the Johns Hopkins Medical School in Baltimore. He says people who smoke salvia describe a high very different from other mind-altering drugs.

For example, people on the drug psilocybin - what makes magic mushrooms hallucinogenic - are aware of the real world around them and can function in it. During the brief-but-potent high, people on salvia can barely move, and they feel as if they've left planet Earth.

Dr. JOHNSON: A completely different reality where they're interacting with things they're either calling entities or angels or figures that have even given themselves names in this otherworldly experience.

PALCA: Johnson wanted to see if there were any physical side effects to this mental trip. So he invited people who had used other hallucinogens to try salvia and looked to see if there were any potentially harmful spikes in heart rate or blood pressure.

Dr. JOHNSON: Under the conditions of the study, it did appear to be a physiologically safe drug.

PALCA: At least for the things Johnson measured. But he says while the drug may not be harmful physically, it can be mentally.

Dr. JOHNSON: There's the psychological toxicity. That is to say, this is a strong drug and people can do strange, potentially dangerous things when they're on it.

PALCA: So why study this drug? Well, in addition to the weird trip it takes you on, it tends to make people feel icky, kind of depressed. And that depressive quality may be useful in therapies. Here's how.

Salvia belongs to a class of drugs that activate something called the kappa opioid receptor. Heroin and morphine also activate opioid receptors, but they activate the mu opioid receptor.

Dr. ELENA CHARTOFF (McLean Hospital): When you activate the mu receptor, like you do with heroin or morphine, you get a euphoric - you get a rush, a high.

PALCA: Elena Chartoff studies opioid receptors at McLean Hospital in Boston.

Dr. CHARTOFF: But when you activate the kappa receptor with a drug, you get kind of the opposite effect, that depressive-like effect.

PALCA: The depressive effect might be used to counteract the mania of manic depression or negate the appealing effects of narcotics as a way to control drug addiction.

Salvinorin A, the active ingredient in salvia, has a powerful effect on the kappa opioid receptors. Chartoff says scientists are looking at ways to take molecules like Salvinorin A...

Dr. CHARTOFF: And altering them using a chemistry to develop compounds that have all the beneficial properties, but don't have the disadvantages.

PALCA: Hallucinations are generally considered an unwanted side effect in drug therapies. But pharmacologist Bryan Roth of the University of North Carolina says those properties may be useful for neuroscientists.

Dr. BRYAN ROTH (University of North Carolina): One of the things to me that's interesting about drugs that are hallucinogens is they alter the way we see reality.

PALCA: Roth is trying to figure out which brain circuits Salvinorin A acts on -where in the brain we decide what's real and what's not.

Dr. ROTH: You know, what could be more important than how we view reality, right?

PALCA: That's a hard one to argue with.

Joe Palca, NPR News, Washington.

Copyright © 2011 NPR. All rights reserved. Visit our website terms of use and permissions pages at for further information.

NPR transcripts are created on a rush deadline by Verb8tm, Inc., an NPR contractor, and produced using a proprietary transcription process developed with NPR. This text may not be in its final form and may be updated or revised in the future. Accuracy and availability may vary. The authoritative record of NPR’s programming is the audio record.