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Under One Roof, Divergent Views On 'Black Lives Matter'

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Under One Roof, Divergent Views On 'Black Lives Matter'

Under One Roof, Divergent Views On 'Black Lives Matter'
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Ranging in age from 12 to 95, (left to right) LaCurtia Brown, Serra Williams, Sherrie Snipes-Williams, Genita Snipes, Alfredia Snipes, Judge Richard Fields, Liz Alston, and Albert Alston pose for a family portrait outside Liz and Albert Alston's home in Charleston, S.C. i

Ranging in age from 12 to 95, (left to right) LaCurtia Brown, Serra Williams, Sherrie Snipes-Williams, Genita Snipes, Alfredia Snipes, Judge Richard Fields, Liz Alston, and Albert Alston pose for a family portrait outside Liz and Albert Alston's home in Charleston, S.C. Dustin Franz for NPR hide caption

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Ranging in age from 12 to 95, (left to right) LaCurtia Brown, Serra Williams, Sherrie Snipes-Williams, Genita Snipes, Alfredia Snipes, Judge Richard Fields, Liz Alston, and Albert Alston pose for a family portrait outside Liz and Albert Alston's home in Charleston, S.C.

Ranging in age from 12 to 95, (left to right) LaCurtia Brown, Serra Williams, Sherrie Snipes-Williams, Genita Snipes, Alfredia Snipes, Judge Richard Fields, Liz Alston, and Albert Alston pose for a family portrait outside Liz and Albert Alston's home in Charleston, S.C.

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From Ferguson, to Baltimore, to Charleston, racially charged violence and protests dominated much of the news in 2015. While much of the country watched these events unfold, they had the deepest resonance in the cities at the center of them — going beyond the news and filtering into into family living rooms and kitchens.

That's true of Liz Alston's family in Charleston, S.C. Six months ago, a white supremacist opened fire in a historically black Emanuel AME church in her city. Nine African-Americans were killed. Liz is the historian at that church, which is affectionately called Mother Emanuel — she's a self-described "political guru," and the 74-year-old matriarch of her family.

It's a family that is deeply political — all of them have voted in every presidential election they could. But, this campaign season, the political disagreements aren't necessarily about a specific presidential candidate, but, rather, a specific issue – the rise of protests around issues of race and the Black Lives Matter (BLM) movement.

BLM is a loosely organized group of young activists calling for racial justice; it sprung up after a series of high-profile police shootings.

And, for Liz, BLM is a confusing new force. Within her family, there's nearly unanimous agreement that racism is still a problem, but there's also plenty of disagreement about BLM and its protest tactics.

One Saturday afternoon this fall, Liz spent the afternoon with some of her relatives, as they often do, discussing politics, race, power, and protests at her home in the historic neighborhood of Old Charleston about a mile from Emanuel AME.

Liz's opinions are different from the younger folks in her family, including 22-year-old LaCurtia Brown. As she introduces her, Liz is having trouble finding the words to describe LaCurtia's generation.

"She's a millenninum..."
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The afternoon began with presidential politics. (Everyone in this family supports Hillary Clinton in her 2016 campaign — with varying degrees of enthusiasm).

Quickly, though, the conversation veered toward the protesters who interrupted a Clinton campaign event in October at a historically black college in Atlanta.

After more than an hour of political talk, Liz invited the family into the kitchen for some sweet ice tea, red rice, and collard greens.

After more than an hour of political talk, Liz invited the family into the kitchen for some sweet ice tea, red rice, and collard greens. Dustin Franz for NPR hide caption

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LaCurtia has never attended a protest rally herself, but she agrees with the activists and understands why they're targeting Clinton now.

"They want to be heard"
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Ninety-five-year-old Richard Fields (known in the family as "The Judge") interrupted to politely admonish the young generation. Decked out in a matching vest, jacket, and hat, he said the Clinton protesters were being disrespectful and showing off.

"You're just doing it for yourself"
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Some family members awkwardly shifted their weight on the sofa, but nobody publicly disagreed with The Judge. He's not biologically related to anyone in the room but he's like an adoptive father to Liz and her husband Albert, and has been close to the family for more than half a century. They give deference to him. After all, he's an icon, not just in Liz's family, but in the city. Born in the segregated South, The Judge was an attorney during the Jim Crow era who became the highest ranking black judge in Charleston.

Liz sort of agreed with The Judge. "I think [the activists] are pushing the wrong [candidate]. You know, Hillary already agrees with you, so why make her life difficult?" she asked.

Judge Richard Fields, affectionately known as "The Judge" to his family, and LaCurtia Brown embrace outside of Liz and Albert Alston's home. i

Judge Richard Fields, affectionately known as "The Judge" to his family, and LaCurtia Brown embrace outside of Liz and Albert Alston's home. Dustin Franz for NPR hide caption

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Judge Richard Fields, affectionately known as "The Judge" to his family, and LaCurtia Brown embrace outside of Liz and Albert Alston's home.

Judge Richard Fields, affectionately known as "The Judge" to his family, and LaCurtia Brown embrace outside of Liz and Albert Alston's home.

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Liz was a student of the Civil Rights movement. She went to college in the '60s, protested for equal rights, and even got arrested. So, initially, she said she felt a kinship with BLM and wanted to support them.

But, now, Liz feels like BLM doesn't have a clear end goal.

"They need something to hang on to"
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Liz is effusive and opinionated, but also circumspect.

She's attended Emanuel AME for 47 years. A painting of the church hangs on the living room wall, gazing down on her family - a constant reminder of the deadly shooting.

Liz says "hidden racism" is still alive, but, she also thinks times are changing. She points out that compared to the '60s, police and politicians in South Carolina are now responding to violence against black people with "swift justice." She mentions the arrest of a white police officer in North Charleston for fatally shooting Walter Scott, a black man.

Liz Alston says "hidden racism" is still alive, but, she also thinks times are changing.

Liz Alston says "hidden racism" is still alive, but, she also thinks times are changing. Dustin Franz for NPR hide caption

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She also points to the fact that the Emanuel 9 shooting was immediately referred to as a "hate crime," and that the Confederate flag on the capitol grounds was taken down shortly thereafter.

"The reasons for marching..."
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In some ways, perhaps the generational fissures within Liz's family are a uniquely South Carolinian response toward BLM and race. Liz herself says her home state "dances to the tune of a different drummer."

And, it's true - in some ways, the state is unusually quiet about these issues. Despite the shooting at Mother Emanuel and the killing of Walter Scott by police, there were no wide-scale protests akin to Ferguson or Baltimore.

Liz Alston lives about a mile from the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, which she's been attending for 47 years. Nine people were killed in a shooting there earlier this year.

Liz Alston lives about a mile from the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, which she's been attending for 47 years. Nine people were killed in a shooting there earlier this year. Dustin Franz for NPR hide caption

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But, for recent college grad LaCurtia, the quiet disguises the tension.

In front of her older relatives, LaCurtia hesitated to defend BLM; but, after The Judge left, as the rest of the family filtered into the kitchen, she went into to the backyard where she spoke more candidly.

LaCurtia said she's frustrated by the racism she's witnessed as she's grown older and by the "lack of training" cops demonstrate in dealing with everyday people. And, for her, this isn't abstract, it's personal. Here she describes an encounter her cousin had with the police after being pulled over for speeding.

"She was arrested for going 80"
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"It happens, I guess," LaCurtia said with an exasperated sigh.

She thinks the relationship cops have with the black community needs to change — that's why she supports BLM.

Then, she lowered her voice to explain how "some older people" in her family don't understand that the movement is about more than protesting.

"Not just about protesting"
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Twelve-year-old Serra Williams says her mostly white classmates once taunted a police officer by yelling out "Black Lives Matter" from a bus.

Twelve-year-old Serra Williams says her mostly white classmates once taunted a police officer by yelling out "Black Lives Matter" from a bus. Dustin Franz for NPR hide caption

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The youngest family member, 12-year-old Serra Williams, doesn't have a concrete idea of what BLM means, but she does take it seriously. Serra goes to a predominantly white school, and she said one day last year she was riding the bus when it passed a police officer and bunch of her classmates tried to rile him up.

"It's not really a joke"
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Serra's mom, Sherrie Snipes-Williams, 47, chimed in to defend the intentions of the younger activists. She said the BLM movement is "relevant" for today's culture, but not as effective as it could be. Rather than protest, activists should "use their wits and their intelligence to attack an issue in a very different way."

The Black Lives Matter movement is "relevant" for today's culture, but not as effective as it could be, said Sherrie Snipes-Williams.

The Black Lives Matter movement is "relevant" for today's culture, but not as effective as it could be, said Sherrie Snipes-Williams. Dustin Franz for NPR hide caption

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Traditionally, some politicians have built relationships in the black community with the leaders of the civil rights movement or the NAACP. But, Black Lives Matter has upended that old-school hierarchy. Personally, Sherrie sees this cultural moment as an opportunity for young black folks to change the conversation.

"The experiences from the past"
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