The End of Our Ron Paul-valanche

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After something like 4,000 comments, blogging genius Anil Dash dug us out of the Ron Paul-valanche this morning. Thanks, man.

 

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You asked the question and got answers from real people. You asked Anil Dash how to keep some of the many people who showed up unexpectedly, and I think many Ron Paul supporters might stick around if you didn't speak about the response as a nuisance. You could respond by following up on the original story and in general showing that you are a media source we can trust.

NPR in general doesn't seem like they've given Paul much respect.

Sent by Dallas B | 10:59 AM ET | 12-21-2007

As you can see the supporters of Rep. Dr. Paul are a diverse crowd and not the "nut cases" the media typically portray us as. Will their be some type of follow up? I sure wish a media outlet would give Dr. Paul's supporters a fair shake.

Sent by zmeister | 11:33 AM ET | 12-21-2007

To Laura Conaway and those who made this possible, Thank You. In so many ways, Anil is right in saying that this was a phenomenal way for Ron Paul supporters, like myself, to give a nod and say, Hey, we're out here, And we're pretty normal. FYI, I downloaded the show to see if I like it. Living in Korea, I miss NPR. So it's good to get back in touch and discover that I can listen in for free online. Thanks again.

Sent by Justin | 11:55 AM ET | 12-21-2007

Interesting thoughts. But I think you would be surprised how many RP supporters really DO listen to NPR and know about this show already. I do.

Sent by Jake | 1:37 PM ET | 12-21-2007

All three of the top Democrats running have said that there is no way they could or would pull the troops out of Iraq until their second term in 2013. That is insane???

It is not only Iraq though. Paul wants to pull troops out across the world.

The U.S. population is only 1/25 of the world???s population, yet we spend 80% of the entire world???s military budget.

We have troops in 130 different countries!

We operate over 700 bases WORLDWIDE! THEY ARE BUILDING A NEW EMBASSY IN IRAQ THAT IS BIGGER THEN THE VATICAN!

We still have 50,000 troops in Japan! 40,000 troops in Korea! 75,000 + in Germany! This is insanity and it is bankrupting America!

Down with the military-industrial complex!

Go Ron Paul!

Champion of the Constitution!

http://www.ronpaul2008.com

http://www.pimpinturtle.com

Sent by Pimpin Turtle Dot Com | 1:40 PM ET | 12-21-2007

Hey Laura, the Ron Paul crowd is a pretty avid bunch of Libertarians, and as a democratic libertarian (read: Anarchosyndicalist), I could have predicted the avalanche of comments you got. Take Dallas B's advice and give Paul a fair shake. He's the only conservative running who is actually speaking to the ideological underpinnings of the Republican Party these days.

I personally love Ron Paul because of his hard-core anti-authoritarian stances (no war, privacy, "don't tread on me" and "Live and let live"), but his right-wing voodoo economics scare the bejeezus out of me.

Also, many of the Paul supporters are also big Alex Jones listeners (and Genesis Communications Network fans), so keep that in mind when attempting to deconstruct his popularity.

This is also a big help:

politicalcompass.org

Sent by Benji | 1:45 PM ET | 12-21-2007

Letting the Ron Paul-valanche win? Didn't you ask us to comment? The initial interview was one person's opinion on who Ron Paul supporters are, which he clearly is not one. This, of course, is fine and we appreciate the opportunity to respond.

You did ask us to comment, though - comments screened by your staff. So you got a lot of responses, why is that a bad thing? A lot of people are tired of War, lose of civil liberties, runaway spending and huge debt - aren't you?

Sent by Paul Valentine | 2:04 PM ET | 12-21-2007

I think we'd all agree, our nation has some serious ills.

Another lawyer won't help.

But I know a Doctor, who has made the diagnosis and has the cure.

Doctor Ron Paul
Ron Paul
Ron Paul!

God Bless America, each and every one of you.

And may God Bless Doctor Ron Paul! :)

Sent by David Ferry | 2:36 PM ET | 12-21-2007

zmeister said, "As you can see the supporters of Rep. Dr. Paul are a diverse crowd and not the "nut cases" the media typically portray us as. Will their be some type of follow up?"

If you want to greatly increase your listenership, do a follow-up as zmeister suggests. By those 4,000 comments, you can see that Ron Paul supporters aren't just mesmurized college students, conspiracy theorists, or disrespectful "loons".

You have a REAL story here... one that could blow the lid off of the myth that others in the main stream media seem so intent on perpetuating. What do you have to lose?

Sent by USAF Vet Dan | 2:42 PM ET | 12-21-2007

Laura (and hopefully some additional staff) individually read and approved over 3979 comments from Ron Paul folk. If that doesn't show how committed NPR and the BPP is to giving Mr. Paul's supporters a voice I don't know what will.

Sent by Will G | 2:50 PM ET | 12-21-2007

Reading the posts from my fellow Ron Paul supporters confirmed what I already knew in my heart, that we are caring, educated, hopeful americans who only want what is best for our families and our country.
The other politicians are so out of touch with what's going on in the real world that it scares me.
One more beautiful quality of Dr. Paul is he sees everyone as equal and individual regardless of race, sex, religion, etc.

Sent by vilyn | 3:11 PM ET | 12-21-2007

I hate to say you asked for it, but, well, you asked for it. *wink*

I don't blame you for shutting the gate on comments after 4000+ but you only got the tip of the iceberg, really.

A follow-up would be great and it makes sense. I agree with USAF Vet Dan's comment - You have a REAL story here... one that could blow the lid off of the myth that others in the main stream media seem so intent on perpetuating. What do you have to lose?

Sent by Wendy Moore | 3:53 PM ET | 12-21-2007

It would appear that Ron Paul is the "top tier" candidate. It would also appear that Ron Paul represents more of mainstream America than any other candidate.

Ive never seen ANY blog post get 4000 comments, much less a blog post about any other presidential candidate. Kerry, Dean, Bush, Clinton, nobody ever got this much grassroots attention or support.

Those other candidates, like the mainstream media, are going to lose. Big time.

Take note, NPR. Are you going to go the way of the Dodo with all the other mainstream media? Or are you going to do the SMART thing and jump on the bandwagon of evolved media and evolved information dissemination? Embrace the Paulitics (yes, Paulitics) and start reporting more on what truly is an American rEVOLution.

Ron Paul in 2008 and 2012!

Sent by Aaron Kinney, Los Angeles CA | 4:10 PM ET | 12-21-2007

Actually, I've been meaning to ask about that ever since the stickers started going up around my neighborhood: what's this EVOL thing? Ron Paul is a closet Sonic Youth fan? Yes, it's a cool graphic device, but if you have to explain a graphic device, that means it doesn't work.

Sent by Stewart | 4:34 PM ET | 12-21-2007

"One more beautiful quality of Dr. Paul is he sees everyone as equal and individual regardless of race, sex, religion, etc."

No vilyn, his stances on gay rights are fairly weak. Voted for the defense of marriage and marriage protection acts. He voted for a bill that was designed to block gay adoption. And he has this idea of a we the people act which would allow states to set their own sexual standards and crack down on homosexual activity. He was a staunch critic of the verdict from Lawrence v. Texas. He supports don't ask dont' tell in the military.

Sent by Brian | 4:37 PM ET | 12-21-2007

When did NPR jump on board with the mainstream media? I always knew NPR slanted left but I never realized the only time they looked right was to look for fodder for their attacks.

All the Democrats want to do is give 1/3rd of the national budget to private drug and insurance agencys...why does NPR support this?

Why does NPR support "residual" troops in Iraq that will only continue the hatred of Americans and further deepen our ties and dependence on oil.

Lean to the left all you want, NPR, on social issues but stop turning a blind eye to where the money is coming from (the middle class) and stop diluting yourself on thinking the government is the solution to all the social problems you champion.

A government that "takes care" of the ALL the people and controls the establishment and enforcement of ideals is called FASCIST.

The Democrats were elected to end the war and reign in the president in the 2006 midterm elections--they've done neither. They have increased the war and increased the deficit spending.

The Democrats continue to lie to the American people and NPR doesn't seem to care about anything other then progressing their social agenda that is oblivious to fiscal responsibility and ignorant of the financial and social impact of wealth redistribution through inflation and taxation.

(1) word can sum up NPRs politics: Irresponsible.

Sent by Greg | 5:09 PM ET | 12-21-2007

With so many Ron Paul fans responding, I'm surprised you didn't follow up on this and try to find out how many of us there really are across this country. I think the establishment would be shaking if they knew just how many there really are.

Sent by Vickie | 5:32 PM ET | 12-21-2007

Hi Brian,
I'm sure you've read Dr. Pauls' reasons for why he voted the way he did on those issues.

When I said he sees us as individuals and equals I was referring to statements like what he said here:


Paul thinks ???Don???t Ask, Don???t??? Tell??? is a ???decent policy. And the problem that we have with dealing with this subject is we see people as groups, as they belong to certain groups and that they derive their rights as belonging to groups. We don't get our rights because we're gays or women or minorities. We get our rights from our Creator as individuals. So every individual should be treated the same way. So if there is homosexual behavior in the military that is disruptive, it should be dealt with. But if there's heterosexual behavior that is disruptive, it should be dealt with. So it isn't the issue of homosexuality. It's the concept and the understanding of individual rights. If we understood that, we would not be dealing with this very important problem,???.

I know it's just one example but that's what I'm talking about.


Sent by vilyn | 7:24 PM ET | 12-21-2007

NPR is fantastic. Thanks for giving a chance for a very loud but largely ignored voice to be heard.
Dr Pauls ideals are a bit out of reach of most peoples grasp, fixed as they are in a very consuming paradigm. Paulites should hold in mind that it takes a little bit of time to acclimate to radically different ideas.
In other words: Cut NPR a break. They have an extremely diverse and open tolerance...I've been listening for years.

Viva la rEVOLution

Sent by Jeremy | 8:35 PM ET | 12-21-2007

21st Century USA needs to return to the basics of the Constitution and Bill of Rights! Ron Paul has brought us back to our senses, he is showing us the way back home. He will be the next President there is no doubt about it.

Sent by Erik | 2:59 AM ET | 12-22-2007

Laura,

I was disappointed Friday morning to hear you dismissively speak of the Ron Paul supporters. I am sad because from Ann Arbor, MI, to Urbana-Champaign, IL, to Boston MA, even on my satellite radio, I listen to NPR. And this is what I get in return? Very sad.

Sent by Ali | 8:07 AM ET | 12-22-2007

Wow! ! ! So much truth!
The folks that I know, who support Dr.Paul,are varied.Yet they have a few things in common.Such as,We know that the U.S. has left it's core ,that this administration and the ones before it ,act with little or no regard to the people.We are tired ,I mean tired, tired of being lied to over and over.Lies proven to be lies just pushed under the carpet!WE wonder how they get away with it? over and over!It is astounding to watch.
We see how scarry it is , and we crave a better world.
Ron Paul supporters are the ones taking the chances,pushing,for someone who actualy sees these things and addresses the issues that are real.
It is not about legalizing drugs and wierd hippy stuff.Dr. Paul,is of sound mind and knows what he is talking about!the real question is...why is there only one man out there ?Why only one voice saying ,WE NEED TO ACT NOW?
What are the others saying?
What is anybodies stance on the economy?The war ? the erosion of the constitution?Why does R.P. get so easily painted as fodder for crazy fringe dwellers? And last of all,
We seem to agree that it is now or never!That it has gone to far and if we dont start putting the breaks on, The LIe tellers and their lies will take over completely even more then they are !
thank you npr for taking the time and effort to find out. Pat Kuhn.

Sent by Patrick t. Kuhn | 8:46 AM ET | 12-22-2007

If Bryant Park Project were to start talking about liberty and were to get hip to the message of freedom then you would have a RonPaulLoad of listeners.

Sent by Steven C | 5:59 PM ET | 12-22-2007

Y'all, I just want to say, as clearly as I can, that I was quite moved by the Ron Paul commenters. It's true that the volume of the response was overwhelming, but I stuck it out longer than was practical because the individual voices mattered so much to me. A surprising number of those nearly 4,000 people remain vivid for me, from the homeschooling moms to the skateboard shop owner in Cadillac, Michigan. I mean it when I say I hope you'll stick around.

Sent by Laura Conaway -- NPR/The Bryant Park Project | 7:16 PM ET | 12-22-2007

What does NPR have to lose by giving Dr. Paul a bit more respect? Marginalizing his supporters and speaking of him dismissively will not win NPR any fans in fact it may drive some fans away. I'm feeling a bit repelled now myself.

Sent by Jack | 9:41 PM ET | 12-22-2007

Thanks NPR for this follow up and providing a forum for it. ;)

Sent by Gene in Raleigh | 11:43 AM ET | 12-28-2007

I'm 50, an ex-pat living and working in Japan for the last 10 years. The "war on terror" is finally rearing its ugly head here too. I'm for peace and prosperity and personal responsibility, not lies and corruption and fear-mongering. That's why I support Paul. He's honest, he knows what's what, he wants what I want.

Sent by Sanders | 12:04 PM ET | 12-28-2007

Why should npr be fair to Ron Paul. They are beholden to the Federal Government and are owned by them. They don't have the guts to stand up to the felllows who pay their bills. They are just another propaganda tool for the establishment. They try to act like they are cutting edge hip activists. They are pawns. Sorry fellows, you know it true. Go get a real job and change the world if you want but you aint gonna do it workin fo Big Brother.

Sent by Allen Dodd | 12:13 PM ET | 12-28-2007

Personally, I would like to thank you for actually being interested enough to ask us "who we are" to begin with. It made me actually feel appreciated for standing up for what I believe in, instead of mocked and ridiculed like most other mainstream media outlets. It literally "made my day" that someone from the media had a genuine interest in knowing who I am and what I believe in. If you would like to stop the comments, I completely agree that you are free to do whatever you wish. Your site is YOUR property! And to tell someone what they should and should not do with their own property is simply Un-American. Thank you for the opportunity to begin with.

Sent by JohnS | 12:53 PM ET | 12-28-2007

Oooh, so a tiny percentage of Ron Paul supporters responded -- and here's what I mean by a TINY percentage: http://www.infiniteronpaul.com/meetupmaps/

Sent by jkhutz | 12:57 PM ET | 12-28-2007

We didn't mean to overwhelm you... If I thought you didn't actually want to hear from us, I promise I would not have posted...

Anil is correct that the web is less of 'viewers' or 'listeners' coming to see your content and more about a discussion where your content specifies the topic to be explored. It's a different form of media and it's still evolving.

The reason your blog got such a great response is because it, honestly, was such a good idea. On the Internet, bad ideas tend to be ignored and good ideas are swarmed. Ron Paul supporters have been personally insulted time and time again as whackos or nuts or weirdos, so asking this question played into our need to express that, behind the anonymity of the Web, we are just regular people. From there, everyone came to 'join the party.'

I'm sad that you chose to turn off the comments- I understand that your blog is YOUR property- but you honestly had such a WONDERFUL thing going on here. I greatly enjoyed reading through the comments and some supporters even PRINTED the blog with comments in order to pass out as they went door to door canvassing for their candidate. I'm sorry that this flood of comments scared you all so badly, especially considering most of them were very positive responses.

Since I became involved in the Ron Paul campaign, I started learning about and watching or listening to shows I had previously not been interested in. I'm young, so I used to be more likely to tune into Family Guy or Adult Swim or Heroes or CSI than The Situation Room, Glenn Beck's Show, Good Morning America, or the Morning Joe. Now I watch these programs or avoid them, based on the content I???ve seen. I listen to NPR because the radio stations in my area play the same songs over and over again. But I don???t personally identify with NPR. At least it???s news and not sensationalism. *shrug*

How can you retain a Ron Paul supporter, such as myself, as a listener? The honest truth is that you can't, unless you come up with other good ideas or relevant content. On the Internet, you put out the message and we find YOU. Your content drives us to read or shun your site. This is how Ron Paul got where he is now- he stood up and said something, people heard it, passed it on, and mobilized behind the message. And in the same situation in which you were startled and turned off the comments, as you did not know how to control the flood, Ron Paul embraced the spontaneity of the Internet and allowed the wave to propel him into a phenomenon. He understood that on the Internet, control is not an option. And though this is a dangerous route to take, sometimes things just fall into place on their own if you TRUST in people to do good.

I would never ask that you change your website or your format to cater to Ron Paul supporters, by the way. Ron Paul never changes his message, even if he knows his view is not popular with the group he is speaking to (i.e. suggesting lifting Cuban sanctions during a debate to Latino voters.) I respect integrity even if I disagree with someone???s ideology. But that does mean living with the effects that come of this policy. I???ve recently discovered that I???m part of a powerful niche and I expect that, if networks can wrap their heads around what makes us tick, you will see the mainstream reflecting our views rather soon in order to tap into our fervor.

Thank you for writing about Dr. Paul and THANK YOU for trying to understand the Ron Paul Revolution. Sometimes I feel like I???m speaking another language, honestly. :)

Sent by Adrienne.Pass | 1:33 PM ET | 12-28-2007

Oh yes and a note to commenter Brian above:

Ron Paul is personally opposed to homosexuality (I myself support it,) but even when being drilled by members of the religious community he will not condone the belief that gays are unrepentant sinners and hence condemned, as many on the right believe. He understands that our government was not created to dictate morality. He thinks government shouldn???t have any say in heterosexual marriages either and I think he???s absolutely right! Too bad the whole thing is tied into health insurance, which has also been corrupted by government???s fingers.

We don't support Ron Paul because of his stance on the individual issues, but because of his approach to governance and his principled, consistent attitude. This guy isn???t going to jump ship once he???s in office. He believes that the United States is a republic and that the constitution creates a system of checks and balances that prevents injustices. Every step away from the constitution throws off the balance that has ensured generations of prosperity for Americans. Even a step in the right direction is wrong if that step is taken in the wrong way. This is called ???unforeseen consequences.???

Red herrings, such as whether gays should be allowed to marry, take attention away from the problems that are destroying our country. Please get someone into office who can fix the system before it collapses. I'm talking about our economy, our sovereignty, our political system???

I???m not saying that the argument about homosexuality is not important. It???s that having gays that can marry or having gays that cannot marry isn???t going to make or break our country tomorrow. It???s unfair to gays if they cannot marry, but I feel this argument is like debating the color of curtains when the house is burning down.

We can quibble over idiocies such as whether one group of people has to surrender to the morality of another group when our jobs are safe, our economy robust, our civil liberties restored, and our children home from war. Where???s the satisfaction in being gay and married if the government is spying on you and we???re all broke?

Sent by Adrienne.Pass | 2:09 PM ET | 12-28-2007

A response to Laura:

I know you have to sort through these comments and so getting a lot of them is horrible. (That's my job, I read and approve or censor posts made to my company's websites. I go through thousands of posts a day.)

But I hope that you continue to engage us Ron Paul supporters and to learn about why we do what we do. There really is a heart to this; it's warm, positive, hopeful, and hard to describe. Sometimes it feels like Christmas.

And there are a lot of people so cynical and angry that they point to us and label us loons, members of a cult, and tell us to stop bothering them and disengage ourselves from the political arena.

I've never heard of a cult that empowers a person to make a difference in this way. I've never read of a cult or society that brings an individual closer to his or her family and friends while pushing this same person to connect to neighbors and complete strangers on a personal level. I've never heard of a cult that asks its members to reach out and learn more about the world into order to make an informed decision about what you will believe and endorse. And if this is a cult, then bring on the punch, because it has made me a better, more accepting woman. :P

We are bearing our hearts to this country and I'm so surprised at the confusion we've stirred up and some of the hatred that has been directed our way. A lot of Dr. Paul supporters don't know how to react when they are attacked and the abuse is then reciprocated. I'm sincerely sorry that this happens, but not everyone believes or practices Ron Paul's non-aggressive tactics and for some, the ridicule of something so personal is too much.

When we first started this campaign, the media was our enemy. Honestly, we were ignored by everyone. It was really unfair. It took 4 million dollars out of our own pockets to change that. How SAD is that??? You, Laura, may not be part of the system that disregards people like me, but to some people, the popular TV and radio will always just be entertainment and, for this reason, will always be misleading. This is what drives some supporters to insult NPR, though I think you should get a fair shake too.

(I talk too much, sorry!)

Sent by Adrienne.Pass | 2:37 PM ET | 12-28-2007

Haha, Stewart, EVOL is LOVE backwards. :) Ron Paul didn't come up with that. It was an unofficial grassroots idea by his early supporters that the official campaign actually thought was too hippie-like! They wanted the put the word LOVE in rEVOLution because the word revolution is too violent sounding on its own and we're all about civil disobedience and peace.

Sent by Adrienne.Pass | 2:42 PM ET | 12-28-2007

Adrienne: so are you down with the overtly racist statements contained in several of Ron Paul's congressional newsletters in the early '90s? Does civil disobedience and peace now include thinking all black males are criminals?

Sent by Stewart | 5:54 PM ET | 12-28-2007

Adrienne: exactly. It's LOVE backwards. So that says that Ron Paul is for the opposite of love. Given that he refuses to either renounce the views of or return the campaign contributions of several known neo-Nazi leaders, I'm not surprised.

Sent by Stewart | 6:07 PM ET | 12-28-2007

Stewart,

To pretend that the Ron Paul rEVOLution logo is intended to express the opposite of love is just silly. So, according to your comment, Ron Paul supporters purposefully tried to paint their own candidate in a negative light? Hmm.. You can interpret it any way you wish, of course, especially when you view it as an artistic symbol. It will mean different things to different people. But to say "it's for the opposite of love" is to imply that the creators meant to send a message of anti-love, which you know is not true. :) C'mooon..

I doubt that the purpose of your post is to argue that point however. I think it was rather meant to inflame. I feel as if maybe you felt I was somehow responding negatively in my response to you? I want to clear up now, that I was answering your question. If you had meant to be rhetorical or sarcastic, this did not make it across in your post. Haha, I took it at face value and answered honestly. :) The idea did not come from a music group.

I will now respond to your slightly more substantial argument regarding the so-called racism of Dr. Paul. Such statements were published in Ron Paul's newsletter. The statements were written and published by a staff member who was fired as a result. Ron Paul should have either screened each publication of the newsletter himself or paid someone to do so, in my opinion. Dr. Paul admits this and has accepted responsibility for his failure in preventing the statements from being published. You can take that as you like.

Ron Paul does not think all black males are criminals. Ron Paul is actually a fan of Walter Williams, Mohammad Ali, and Martin Luther King Jr (to name a few of his idols.) He has a lot of support among black Americans, especially women. (Whereas he is weaker in the polls with white women, which is my demographic strangely.) Ron Paul is the only candidate that understands how the drug war is harming the black community. All nationalities, especially the younger members, smoke pot or do drugs, yet black Americans are the ones filling our prisons and taking the blame. No other candidate will touch this issue with a ten foot pole.

I am glad that Ron Paul will not sway to popular pressure and return the neo-nazi's money. Ron Paul will not patronize for polling points. I am a believer that even neo-nazi's may one day realize the error of their ways. In our government, even someone as horrible as Fred Phelps or Don Black are allowed a voice and a vote. This kind of liberty is essential because I think good ideas win out over bad ones. Persecuting people with negative ideologies only makes them stronger, since they see themselves as martyrs. Government can't outlaw a belief, even one as backwards as racism. Better to let their ineffective racist memes die out as they will live their lives as idealogical minorities. And of course, their hatred must be kept within the confines of the law, which restrains any encroachment on the personal liberties of another individual.

Every fringe group out there wants to take advantage of our revolution to serve their own means. But we are uniting under the constitution and will not be swayed by the fringe's pet projects and special grievances.

I am deeply sorry that you feel Ron Paul is racist. But I feel this label has been used too many times as a 'one-smear-fits-all' against any Republican candidate.

From the nature of your comments, I infer that your primary beef with Dr. Paul is not these statements you are calling racist, but rather a problem with the ferver of his supporters, maybe? Some people see us as a real annoyance on the Internet and wish we would let them alone. I guess it's a reaction or a form of counter-culture. Others are irked that views they disagree with are spreading. Is there something else you wish to discuss? I am willing to elaborate on a personal level in order to help explain my feelings regarding the Ron Paul Revolution. You are opposed. Please help me understand what bothers you about Ron Paul or his supporters. If your purpose is to dissuade me of my support, I am listening. Telling me Ron Paul is simply a racist or that Ron Paul supporters are trying to express hatred in their slogans and signs doesn't help whatever cause you are aiming to support if it repels me or insults me. But I think you probably already knew that. :} Enlighten me, sir! What do you think?

Sorry for writing so much again!

Sent by Adrienne Pass | 2:55 AM ET | 12-29-2007

okay, so i'm not a ron paul supporter...and yes, i'm a progressive, liberal dem but here's my idea...why not do a take off on c-span morning live where they have a topic and let folks identify themselves (politically) and then respond....how about just having people express who they favor and why.........let's hear all sides of this vexing political scene!

Sent by jay | 9:03 AM ET | 12-29-2007

Adrienne: my "primary beef" with Ron Paul, as you put it, is that I disagree strongly with his position on nearly everything except Iraq.

But specifically concerning the congressional newsletters, it's not even the racist nature of the statements that bothers me so much. As someone who makes his living as a writer, what I find absolutely inexcusable about the racist statements in his congressional newsletter is the utterly craven excuse he used to try to explain them away, which boiled down to "oh gee, I didn't really write that, even though it went out under my name." I'm sorry, but even moreso than the racist nature of the statements themselves, I find that excuse morally repugnant. I cannot support a candidate who would allow unvetted statements to be published under his name, any more than I would allow something I did not write and did not agree with to be published under my own name. To me, the byline is something approaching a sacred bond between the author and the reader, and by violating it, Ron Paul proved decisively to me that he cannot be trusted. And I don't know about you, but I am sick to death of politicians I can't trust.

Honestly, I don't care about how fervent Ron Paul's supporters are, or how many of them there are, or how ridiculous their graphic design choices are. My dislike, distrust and disappointment is with the man himself.

Sent by Stewart | 5:00 PM ET | 12-29-2007

Not that I want to fan the fires or anything, but just in case anyone is interested Mr. Paul apparently does not believe in the theory of evolution (or EVOLution as some folks here might prefer to type it). While he didn't specify how biology can make an ounce of sense without it, I still think we should hold judgement. The US public school system is pretty awful after all (which has only partly to do with the US Department of Education, have you), and inadvertent ignorance shouldn't necessarily be held against a politician . . . unless of course it is a deliberate ignorance intended to cynically pander to select voter groups, (*cough* Mitt Romney).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zz94-OrnXzE

Sent by Will G | 5:34 PM ET | 12-30-2007

As a Ron Paul supporter, I appreciate a chance to just tell you who I am without the inherent bias of a poll. The fact the 4,000+ individuals responded to an NPR blog is impressive. It is just as impressive as Dr. Paul supporters raising millions of dollars with an average donation of less than $100. I wish why someone would explain to me why only the blimp, the money-bomb, and the internet get reported when covering the Ron Paul campaign. We all use the internet for banking, shopping, mailing, researching, working, etc...without being called "nuts". Oh, well, Thank you.

Sent by Dianne | 4:06 PM ET | 12-31-2007

There was some talk in the comments here a couple of weeks ago about racist statements in Ron Paul's congressional newsletter. It's looking like that was the tip of the iceberg.

The New Republic reported yesterday on the great extent to which racist, homophobic, anti-semitic, and conspiracy theorist themes cropped up in his older newsletters over and over again. These newsletters lacked bylines and were published under Paul's name.

As James Kirchick says in the article "Whether or not Paul personally wrote the most offensive passages is almost beside the point. If he disagreed with what was being written under his name, you would think that at some point--over the course of decades--he would have done something about it."

It's an interesting read.

Sent by Maura | 12:42 PM ET | 01-09-2008

As I pointed out in that thread a couple weeks ago -- and I can't help but notice that none of the Paulites ever responded to me on it -- the worst part of that isn't the racism itself, but Paul's utterly craven response, which boiled down to "Oh gee, I didn't really write any of that, it was just published under my name." That's simply pathetic, and suggests that rather than being the man of honor, principle and integrity the Paulites claim, Ron Paul is just another mealymouthed politician trying to have it both ways.

Sent by Stewart | 1:50 PM ET | 01-09-2008

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