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by Carrie Brownstein

 
 

Here Comes Your Band

My friend forwarded me a website that seems akin to the Larry Norman/Bum Kon post of last week. It's called For Those Who Tried To Rock. The blog aims to "capture data about every band to have been formed by teens with that perfect mixture of big dreams and questionable talent in suburban garages, high school music rooms, and college dorms across America." Overall, the site's aim is not unlike that of the early Nuggets and Pebbles compilations, but it's an exciting venture never the less. Check it out.

Below is an image of the band Only One from central New Jersey, circa 1995.

Only One

Portland's insistence on not letting go of winter has led me to more film watching than usual for this time of year. Last weekend I watched loudQUIETloud, a documentary about the Pixies as they embarked on their first reunion tour in 2004.

I saw the Pixies in 1990, sandwiched between Primus and Jane's Addiction at the Seattle Center Arena. Though the Pixies were whom I was most excited to see, the performance felt flat and slightly detached. It could have been the large venue, their slot on the bill, or just who the Pixies were back then, but the songs came and went without any of the teeth they bared on their albums.

What first struck me about Loud Quiet Loud was that it documented what felt less like a reunion and more like a reassembling. It was as if the Pixies had not broken up but broken down, that they were in need of something--an audience, a level of desperation, financial uncertainty, sheer will--to bring them back into working condition.

The Pixies, the early years. From L to R: Black Francis, Kim Deal, David Lovering, Joey Santiago.

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Whereas most documentaries about bands go back to the beginning, positing the music within a context, a city, a scene, and telling the origin story, except for a few seconds of video right before the credits, Loud Quiet Loud begins and ends in the new millennium. The choice to focus solely on the present day creates an odd disconnect, erasing any remnant of the process of creating the music. When the Pixies show up for their first practice in well over a decade, it's like watching actors step into roles without any sense of how they came to be who they are.

Yet the Pixies' music speaks for itself. The songs are bigger than the band members, larger than their hang-ups, their history, and whatever bitterness they left behind or still might carry with them. And the faces in the audience during those first shows, ecstatic and glowing, like they are seeing a lost piece of the puzzle, a secret ingredient that courses through so much contemporary music--that ardor from the fans is what seems to meld the band together. Maybe that is what the Pixies were lacking the first time around--some means of reflecting back onto them how much their music matters.

So, aside from Nirvana's song structure ( I also hear the Pixies influence on the vocal stylings of Modest Mouse's Isaac Brock) where has the Pixies music taken us? Where do you hear it and see it? And who has borrowed from and paid homage to the best parts of the band? Or, as suggested by a reader, who influenced the Pixies?

The Pixies on their second try.

Pixies

12:42 AM ET | 06- 5-2008 | permalink

 

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The great part about The Pixies is that, like The Beatles, there are so many places that a band can land, find a home, and build something new. The most obvious answers are Modest Mouse, Spoon (especially their early records), Radiohead, The White Stripes in their own way, and The Flaming Lips (even though the Lips were contemporaries, their middle style owes a lot to the Pixies). But I think Black Francis's best heir, both in terms of the yelp and polymorphously perverse lyrics, is Animal Collective's Avey Tare.

Sent by Tim C | 11:07 AM ET | 06-05-2008

Actually, rather than indicate which bands were possibly influenced most by the Pixies, I was wondering if anyone even bothers to remember the band that had a heavy influence on them? This band was called Husker Du, and I only ask because I have never seen them or their sound, style, and influence discussed amongst anyone, yet their influence is clearly strong on bands that would become bigger or "influential" in the developing 90's grunge/alternative rock/punk movements, such as the Pixies, Soul Asylum, and even Green Day.

Very true. Check out an older post , which talked a bit about the mighty Husker Du and Bob Mould. -CB

Sent by Ryan | 11:42 AM ET | 06-05-2008

I once heard, somewhere on the internet, that the Pixies were inspired by Peter, Paul, and Mary and Husker Du, which I thought was pretty awesome, and more appropriate than only looking at the punk side of the Pixies. Of course, the Pixies are pretty influential as well--sometimes, especially when I am very tired, I am convinced that Pavement is a Pixies cover band.

Sent by Kurt Drury | 12:28 PM ET | 06-05-2008

I would add, in addition to Ryan's invocation of Husker Du, that the Pixies are the best bridge between the alt rock of the 90s and 00s and the alternately damaged and lilting art-punk of the seventies and early eighties, especially Talking Heads, Pere Ubu, Television, and The Fall.

Sent by Tim C | 12:41 PM ET | 06-05-2008

I was glad to find http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FoG2MxrF7Ls&feature=related and Foo Fighters covering another. Kurt D. relates above that the Pixies were influenced by P,P & M and, as I think of them, 'Husky Dudes'; word is that the want ad Charles Thompson / Frank Black orginally placed said he was seeking these two *pole stars* specifically. I suppose one could find it on microfiche somewhere, if it's not already in a book.

Sent by nsf | 1:55 PM ET | 06-05-2008

I always hear a B-52's guitar and weirdness influence when i listen to the Pixies. also the Rezillos and X.

Sent by AguaLinda | 1:56 PM ET | 06-05-2008

I always feel like the the Pixies wouldn't exist without The Gun Club. If you listen to Fire of Love there are entire songs that trick your ears into thinking you're listening to the Pixies.

Sent by chriso | 2:11 PM ET | 06-05-2008

I agree whole-heartedly with the Husker D?? mention. I also wonder about quasi-punk-folk bands of the eighties like Violent Femmes or Dead Milkmen.

As far as who the Pixies have influenced, where do we begin? I'd argue that just about any and all indie/alternative bands have been influenced by their records in some way.

LoudQuietLoud seems to be more about the nostalgia factor involved in Pixies lore. There seems to be this trend of 80's and 90's alt-rockers reuniting in the past few years. I wonder who's next? (Pavement? Archers of Loaf? Sleater-Kinney perhaps? - I couldn't resist.)

Sent by comoprozac | 2:20 PM ET | 06-05-2008

Ah yes, summer in Portland officially begins July 4th.

Doolittle rocked my world when it came out way back when. I don't think the Pixies revolutionized music really, but they were simply the best rock band in the late 80's/early 90's. They were the perfect band for those times, and I compare them to the Velvet Underground only in the sense that although they had a short lived time span, all of their albums are classics. I think Nirvana were influenced by their style of music (not lyrics) of quiet/loud chorus/quiet, but the Pixies were so much more unique in my opinion with the punk/surf guitar sound and really interesting lyrics.

Sent by dk | 2:59 PM ET | 06-05-2008

There are traces of the Pixies all over the place today. Les Savy Fav is the first band that comes to mind (they have been covering "Debaser" lately), and also any other bands that are at the punk end of the dance-punk spectrum. I think that the Pixies are a big influence on a lot of contemporary weirdo underground experimental music -- if not musically than via the "polymorphously perverse lyrics" that the first commenter mentioned. Strange dark lyricists like the guy from Xiu Xiu are no stranger than Black Francis.

Also the name "Loud Quiet Loud" made me think instantly of Mogwai, who have also covered the Pixies before. There is a definite link between the noisy parts of Pixies tunes and the cacophonous post-rock world.

I was listening to the Pixies recently and trying to think of any other American bands that used Spanish much in their lyrics. I can't think of any except maybe Beck.

Sent by jeff | 3:05 PM ET | 06-05-2008

To Ryan -- I think there was mutual acknowledgment between Bob and the Pixies about influences. Sugar's "A Good Idea" was often called Bob's Pixies song.

Having just seen Swervedriver twice in the past week, I was reminded that some of their songs are about outer space which is something that generally reminds me of the Pixies. The Swervies' sound is much heavier and expansive than the Pixies' was, but maybe lyrically there is a thread. And I can't believe I'm posting so much about a band I feel is incredibly overrated.

Sent by Tim F. | 3:11 PM ET | 06-05-2008

I find it both troubling and interesting that I discovered the Pixies through "Fight Club." On one hand, right in line with Fight Club's unintended effect of misinterpretation and adverse corporate reaction, I discovered a band that I probably wouldn't have otherwise. On the other hand, "Where is My Mind" works absolutely perfectly at the end of that movie.

"With your feet in the air and your head on the ground"

He just flipped his world on its head to figure himself out. David Fincher could have done worse for an end-credits song.

Going back to what you said about the Pixies and their live shows, I have friends who saw them live and had the same reaction, but it was exponentially more negative. They used to love the Pixies. Now they refuse to listen to them. I can't speak for their live shows, but the recorded music still stands strong for me. "Surfer Rosa" is one of those records that falls by the wayside in my life, but when it pops up on iTunes I still love it. However, that's not to say a bad live performance cannot ruin a band's music for me. Spoon was another band that fell by the wayside in my life, one that I still enjoyed listening to, but when I saw them live last year they were the most boring show I ever saw. I walked out, for a number of reasons, but boredom was a big one.

Speaking of watching movies, have you caught "Son of Rambow?" This will be the best movie you've seen in a long time.

Sent by Nick L. | 3:15 PM ET | 06-05-2008

In my opinion, one of the best parts of the Pixies and a perfect compliment to Francis' voice, is Joey Santiago's guitar. Dissonant, melodic, frenzied and beautiful, he never seems to be cited as an influence by guitar players. He's the Robby Krieger of the 80s.

Sent by tim weeks | 3:46 PM ET | 06-05-2008

I guess I better let the creators of that site know about my old band, Manarama. We were an all-male, hardcore Bananarama tribute band. Sadly, I'm not making this up.
We were terrible (I like to think it was the intentional kind of terrible), but man, our version of "Cruel Summer" shredded!

Sent by Mike M. | 4:33 PM ET | 06-05-2008

I totally agree with Ryan on the Husker Du comment. What's funny about The Pixies though is that no matter how hard certain bands try, they still sound nothing like The Pixies. Which leads me to believe that The Pixies have/had something else a lot of those bands don't; great songs. Their sound is incredible, but without the great songwriting, we wouldn't even be having this discussion.

Sent by Jack | 4:34 PM ET | 06-05-2008

magic and metal detecting.

Sent by RZ | 5:30 PM ET | 06-05-2008

I had the chance to see the Pixies twice on that reunion tour, and while neither matched the joy of seeing them on the "Doolittle" tour (with Husker Du's Bob Mould OPENING on his first solo tour), both beat the hell out of most rock shows by much younger, "happier" bands I've seen lately. Seeing Kim Deal's infectious grin through an entire show is worth the price of admission by itself--a fact proven by the Breeders gig here in Salt Lake last week.

Sent by dan nailen | 7:19 PM ET | 06-05-2008

I haven't watched the movie yet, but one thing I know: Pixies will always be Pixies. Watching the trailler I felt like, "uh!", something seems to ache really bad! But nothing compares to(no, I won't quote Sinned O'Conner) the their songs and their intensidy on stage!

Sent by Lara | 7:26 PM ET | 06-05-2008

Several people mentioned the odd Pixies lyrics and I have to note that much of the lyrics were purposely odd or surrealistic. The "slicing up eyeballs" line in Debaser comes from a Dali/Bu??uel movie. In other words, the lyrical roots are a bit deeper than Charles Thompson head alone....
Also, the Pixies/Pere Ubu connection is really solid. Not only did Pere Ubu open for the Pixies, Ubu keyboardist Eric Drew Feldman was the Pixies "fifth member" during their last tour (ok, original last tour).

Sent by BTH | 7:42 PM ET | 06-05-2008

I was lucky to be in the right place (Boston) at the right time ('85 on) to see the Pixies dozens of times.

Couldn't bear to see the reunion tour, although what I heard sounded pretty good. Best comment I'd heard was that Kim should have shaved her head, too -- in solidarity with the three baldies.

Sent by mikey | 7:46 PM ET | 06-05-2008

today i listened to santogold's "i'm a lady" and thought of the pixies--specifically the intro to "hey"

Sent by prayer | 8:03 PM ET | 06-05-2008

A possible Pixies influence is Pere Ubu. Quirky singing style, arty song structures, and oblique sci-fi-ish lyrics combined with heavy guitar action.

I always liked, rather than loved, the Pixies, and am unsurprised they'd be tepid live. I found their music impressive, but emotionally inaccessible - everything was delivered from a distance. Nirvana were like the Pixies with feelings.

Sent by Nicole | 9:07 PM ET | 06-05-2008

RE: Chriso
I agree with you about The Gun Club. I don't know HD as well (love Sugar though), but I love Fire of Love and it definitely sounds like a Pixies precursor. Yay, I love the Portland weather, but I'm something of an emotional masochist

Sent by Melvillain | 9:22 PM ET | 06-05-2008

"The songs are bigger than the band members . . ."

Figuratively speaking. Not long until the Pixies album comes out on Rock Band.

Sent by Tom Clancy | 11:45 PM ET | 06-05-2008

the pixies have influenced a gazillion bands since they first put out come on pilgrim, but to me, clearly the most blatantly "pixies-esque" song since their glory days is the first song on the first spoon record (telephono). it's called don't buy the realistic. the guitar part is a complete joey santiago ripoff in both tone and phrasing, it's got that really simple, deep bass line turned way the hell up in the mix, a shrieked chorus and breathy, high female vocal accompaniment during the verse that sounds exactly like kim deal. then again britt daniel has readily admitted to the pixies being a primary influence in his early years, but still.

Sent by Graham | 1:45 AM ET | 06-06-2008

wow, i love the pixies, my brother made me listen to Bossanova when i was 15 and from then on I've never listened to radio-friendly music again. LQL is such a great documentary, I love the deleted scene, "A music store with Kim". You gotta watch it, it's hilarious. The rad thing is that I'm getting to see the Breeders live, in August. (62 days wait). The ticket cost me $60 and I'm a poor university kid with a student loan, but I dont care. I drive around with "Tame" playing on my car stereo as loud as possible, slightly scaring old women and small children that I happen to drive past.

Sent by NC | 6:12 AM ET | 06-06-2008

Every time I listen to "Caribou" all I hear is Radiohead...good enough for me!

Sent by jmj | 8:51 AM ET | 06-06-2008

I unfortunately didn't get to see the Pixies on their first run, but I went to their Philadelphia show on the reunion tour. I though that their energy and demeanor on stage was great, even playing a song through in the wrong key and then immediately tossing it off and playing right back through in the correct one. One of my favorite shows.

Sent by Brian | 11:01 AM ET | 06-06-2008

just some kudos on the post title--tee hee. i think i will sing "here comes your band" next time i hear the song.

Sent by jane birkin | 11:31 AM ET | 06-06-2008

I attended the Jane's Addiction/Pixies/Primus show too, except I saw them at UofP. Later, I saw them on their last tour, and was disappointed as well. I think largely because my expectations were so high. This was a band that I wanted to be superstars, and couldn't see how they were not. I recorded their live rare records from my college's radio station. When the shows were lackluster, I felt betrayed, like they owed me more. It bothered me for many years. Even so, when they did their reunion tour, I traveled a long distance to see them. They brought tears to my eyes, as I watched them with thousands of people.

The songs work so well because each member, except for maybe the drums, brings something distinctive to each song, and they compliment each other so well. The screams of Frank Black are balanced by the cooing of Kim Deal. Joey Santiago's licks are angular, fit the songs, yet stand on their own. In my mind, there are few bands that you can point to each musician as someone who stands out, but somehow manages to enhance the entire experience.

Sent by mikeyj | 12:47 PM ET | 06-06-2008

everytime i hear "Hey Ya" by Outcast i can hear the driving back beat of the Pixies. am i crazy?

Sent by kevin hill | 3:11 PM ET | 06-06-2008

In terms of bands that influenced Pixies, surely stuff like The Raincoats and Romeo Void should get a mention somewhere. And how about Frank Zappa and Captain beefheart with their surrealism?

Pixies are possibly my favourite band; I just think that they were so innovative and really did something new, in a 'business' where it seems to be incerasingly difficult to do that.

And Kim Deal's practically my ideal woman...well, she or June Carter! Ha.

As for bands that they have influenced...that could be a very long list. The most immediate/recent/current one that comes to mind is Tapes 'n Tapes. Their song 'Insistor' is a definite Pixies rip-off...a catchy one, but doesn't match the original, in my opinion.

Sent by Divinyl | 3:36 PM ET | 06-06-2008

spanish lyrics
santiago's guitar
kim's voice
no bands make me the effect of the pixies
some bands covered them but not very satisfying , eh?
placebo with "where is my mind"
they definitely have a big influence from the Pixies.
but I wish I never heard that.

Sent by juju | 5:29 AM ET | 06-07-2008

the first time i played this one arcade fire song for my friend ('neighborhood 2'), he said, "are you sure this isn't the pixies?"

also, i hear them a lot in erase errata's guitar and bass interactions. and in bands that sound like the singers are friends, like be your own pet. you know what i mean, frank black and kim deal always sounded like such good friends when they sang together.

another band that i think really inherited the pixies specific punkish intensity was neutral milk hotel.

i thought that team dresch was pixies-influenced, though they still would have been incredible, had they pixies never existed.

and the walkmen and wolf parade.

Sent by ss | 6:38 AM ET | 06-08-2008

also... as for influences on the pixies, i was recently a teaching assistant for the college professor about whom 'debaser' is written. he teaches avant garde film classes at umass, and apparently the song was about how he always gives away the endings of films in his pre-screening lectures. the professor gave the snobby excuse that he does this because the endings aren't really the point in those films. he also said he remembers frank black to be an outspoken student.

Sent by ss | 6:46 AM ET | 06-08-2008

2nd-ing the 'Modest Mouse as lyrically playful / vocally explosive like Frank Black'. Needing to settle my stomache after seeing Loverling's Male-Pattern Mullet. That shit has GOT to stop!

Sent by Nick F. | 8:01 AM ET | 06-08-2008

Saw them three times: Doolittle tour, Trompe Le Monde and then the reunion tour a couple of yours ago. At the reunion gig, it dawned on me how good they've gotten as musicians and for the first time they actually looked like they were having fun. But like you said Carrie, it's the songs that win in the end. Oh and to Nick F. -- I believe Dave Lovering no longer has said mullet. And check out his science/magic show if it comes to town: http://www.davidlovering.com/.

Sent by Mike | 2:35 PM ET | 06-08-2008

A fun recent influence the Pixies have had is M.I.A.'s "20 Dollar," a wild take on "Where Is My Mind."

Sent by Mike H | 4:26 PM ET | 06-08-2008

"Husker Du" means "do you remember?", or something like that I think.

Sent by Jay Pack | 12:26 AM ET | 06-09-2008

I can't hear the Pixies without hearing Throwing Muses. They played so much together when first starting out (and Kristin Hersh helped get them signed)... on the surface they don't necessarily *sound* the same, but there's a reciprocity there to me.

Sent by mikel | 12:25 PM ET | 06-09-2008

I got into the Pixies just as they were breaking up, unfortunately, but I was lucky to see them a few years ago in St. Paul on their reunion tour. They were excellent but not mind-blowing, and I would have loved to have seen them in their heyday.

I saw The Breeders this past Saturday, but what so funny about them is that they put out so few albums that every tour feels like a reunion tour. Regardless, the opening line of "Iris" feels every bit as fresh and rockin' as it did all those years ago. (Yeah, I know, "fresh and rockin'" sounds a bit like some promo story on Entertainment Tonight, but I'm too hot to be original right now.)

Sent by Michael | 3:25 PM ET | 06-09-2008

I can't quite remember the radiohead quote. I think they said that they changed their sound coz they had ran out of pixies songs to rip-off. I'm sure i'm paraphrasing but damn, not even nirvana bigged them up that much.
Caught the mighty bob mould in concert last week. 47 years young y'all.

Sent by The JDB | 10:46 PM ET | 06-09-2008

In the Pixies' music, I still the hear the influence of Sonic Youth and the Ventures.

Sent by BB | 6:48 AM ET | 06-13-2008

oh my, reading all these interesting and intelligent comments is a charm.
glad to hear so much about of the Pixies music still.
i hope above does not sound sarcastic. it isn't. i just hate typing.

Sent by para | 10:58 PM ET | 06-24-2008

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Carrie Brownstein is a writer and musician. She was a member of the critically acclaimed rock band Sleater-Kinney. Her writing has appeared in 'The New York Times,' 'The Believer,' 'Pitchfork,' and various book anthologies on music and culture. Read Carrie's F.A.Q.

 

 


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