In Name Only

We all have bands that we've secretly never heard. Major artists, cult heroes, Grammy winners, key figures. We know enough to be able to say their names, maybe even to recall their hometowns, to remember a fact from an article or the image of an album cover. Yet we don't really know these bands, perhaps not like we should. For music snobs, as some of us are, it's hard to admit that these bands aren't part of our aural landscapes, our vocabulary -- at least not beyond a fleeting recognition.

One band that comes to mind for me is Galaxie 500. I know the names of each band member. I have seen later incarnations and projects. Yet I don't think I could name a song title or recognize a single tune. I imagine there are other bands, those we feel we should know but really don't. This, I might add, is different from those bands we feel we should like. Instead, these are artists we honestly have never heard beyond a track or two; at best, we only know the hit songs. Artists that tend to end up in this category include Frank Zappa, Captain Beefheart, My Bloody Valentine, Minutemen, Soft Machine and even Bob Dylan sometimes.

In fact, this phenomenon is particularly prevalent the more famous or popular the artist is -- to feel like you know the music because you know what eked into the Top 40 or onto a film soundtrack. Then, all of a sudden, someone puts on Thin Lizzy or Bruce Springsteen at a party, and unless it's "Jail Break" or "Dancing in the Dark," you're out of luck.

There's nothing wrong with these gaps in our musical knowledge, nothing to be ashamed about. Yet I've sensed real shame from people -- red-in-the-face embarrassment. "Who is this?" they'll ask, expecting the answer to be some new and up-and-coming band, when the answer is simply "Led Zeppelin" or "The Who." And it's true, it's worse when the answer is someone obvious. Personally, I feel braver admitting to gaps in my contemporary music knowledge than I would to huge blank pages from the year 1972. Why is that? I suppose a few years out, the history books and the critics have aided in cementing a list of crucial suspects, which, despite their own faults, certainly makes the task of learning about music -- or knowing what we should learn about -- less daunting.

I recently saw an interview with author Rick Moody in which he's asked about evasion and confabulation. "I'm the kind of guy who lies about having read Henry James' The Golden Bowl," Moody says. So I will turn the question to you with regard to music: What kind of liar are you? Or, if you are a truth-teller, what will you admit to not really knowing?

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Truth teller.

One of my most used phrases in music conversations is,"I've heard of him/her/them but have don't know his/her/their stuff." (Galaxie 500 was the first band I thought of when I got the gist of entry and viola!).

I'll admit to not knowing what I don't know and even to liking some crappy music (Sugar Ray's "Every Morning" just popped up on shuffle as I'm typing, and I'm not skipping it.)

Sent by Brian A. | 2:56 PM ET | 10-06-2008

Will Oldham (aka Palace Bros., Palace Music, etc.) I can tell you several of his working names and have enjoyed his music on various occasions, but can not name a single song title. I guess I'll just ask the public library to procure some for me.
PS. You rock, Carrie.

Sent by J. Blake | 3:05 PM ET | 10-06-2008

Television
Big Star
Gang of Four
Fugazi
old Tom Waits

Sent by rick bennett | 3:08 PM ET | 10-06-2008

I own some Fugazi but I've never heard anything by Minor Threat.

Sent by Nick L. | 3:20 PM ET | 10-06-2008

Tom Waits is a big one for me, though I'm slowly correcting that.

Sent by Brian | 3:54 PM ET | 10-06-2008

bob dylan. (sorry old timers.) i once checked out blonde on blonde from la bilbioteca and kept thinking "this repetitive rhyming in his super annoying voice...is this it?" i really enjoyed the pbs documentary of dylan and was expecting to love his music...but i haven't gone back after blonde on blonde.

Sent by chuck spencer | 4:05 PM ET | 10-06-2008

Led Zep. Guilty as charged. Given my tastes, I have every reason to be a Page/Plant obsessive, but have never really ventured beyond "Immigrant Song."

And this is where it gets worse: I have never actually heard "Stairway to Heaven" in its entirety. Maybe that's a good thing... I haven't been completely turned off by the Guitar Center anthem.

Sent by Lars Gotrich | 4:19 PM ET | 10-06-2008

Reminds me of this old suck toon, re Slint:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jaybarnes/2212893466/

unfortunately I can't find the whold thing

Sent by andrew | 4:27 PM ET | 10-06-2008

I feel like I should know more about Bob Mould and his band Sugar. I don't think that I have ever really taken the time yet I have known about him for two decades! I know he is highly regarded among many and have just never taken the time to check his music out. I feel kind of bad about it actually.

Sent by ryan | 4:53 PM ET | 10-06-2008

I was about to say that I lie shamelessly about having heard My Bloody Valentine. Then I considered how easy it would be to remedy the situation. Went to a website that streams albums and listened to several songs and like them well enough. You may now number me among the cognescenti.

One less lie I have to tell. Yeah.

Sent by m-argo | 5:27 PM ET | 10-06-2008

I'm glad you brought up My Bloody Valentine, because although I KNOW I should be a DIE-HARD like almost everyone else, I couldn't name of of their songs even with a gun to my head.

Here's another one: Pavement.

Sent by Gretchen | 5:31 PM ET | 10-06-2008

For a long time I was scared of Ani DiFranco, I liked a few of her more popular songs but as a female folkie everyone talked to me about her as if I already knew her whole catalog by heart. Last year I went to a concert and quickly discovered I loved her music.

Sent by Heather | 6:22 PM ET | 10-06-2008

I will admit to not knowing every song on my ipod, and almost all of it is straight from my CD collection. Songs pop up on shuffle all the time that I don't recognize. Maybe I'm just getting old.

I will also admit to only knowing about 10 or 12 Dylan songs, most because they were covered by other artists. I only heard my first albums by The Band and the Minutemen last year, and I need to hear more Thin Lizzy and Soft Machine. I don't know much Galaxie 500, but I know I like Luna better. I also bought my first Brian Eno albums this year and I don't own anything by The Jam or Generation X.

I've also never heard Big Star, Gang of Four or Sisters of Mercy. I only know about 2 Joy Division songs. I've still never actually heard Mastodon or The Locust. And I've paid money to see Sonic Youth but I've only ever heard about five of their 20-something albums.

Nick L.-Minor Threat is classic hardcore, but if you don't like hardcore they're not changing your mind. I would guess more Fugazi fans would like The Evens.

Sent by John | 7:24 PM ET | 10-06-2008

I've never heard a note by Spoon which is, apparently, a big deal for college age music geek like myself. Are they really as necessary to get into as my friends say they are?

Sent by Stuart F. | 7:35 PM ET | 10-06-2008

The Who
The Flaming Lips
Morrissey
Tom Waits
Pavement
Billy Bragg
Gang of Four
Oh and some guy named David Bowie... :/

Sent by mike gardner | 8:57 PM ET | 10-06-2008

I have no idea who or what an Amy Winehouse is, other than the rat's nest hair and drug-addled spousal abusing I catch sight of when flipping through magazines at the grocery checkout. My list could go on ad infinitum, but this is first to come to mind.

Sent by e | 8:59 PM ET | 10-06-2008

I honestly don't know many of the new bands coming out. There seems to be way too many to keep track of. So I always feel out of place when the college kids are talking about the "Pitchfork" bands. But to be fair, I'm trying to learn as much as I can about past rock music before I feel I can venture in the now. My friends will bring up the new Calexico record, and I'll say I just got Kraftwerk's "Trans-Europe Express."

Sent by Ivan | 9:55 PM ET | 10-06-2008

The more bands you know, the more you know that you don't know other bands.

Sent by jack | 10:16 PM ET | 10-06-2008

haha, thank you. this was golden. i bs'ed my way through galaxie 500 trivia with patrick stickles, singer of titus andronicus/huge galaxie fan, a few weeks ago. i came out of it with my pride still intact.

Sent by Joe | 10:32 PM ET | 10-06-2008

PULP. I feel like I should know them and love them but out of . . . lack of time, money, interest, whatever, I haven't pursued it short of their first album.

Sent by Anjanette | 10:39 PM ET | 10-06-2008

I have discovered a LOT of great music by looking up bands I have heard of but never heard on Youtube. The internet can be a beautiful thing.

Sent by Adam | 5:39 AM ET | 10-07-2008

Pavement. A lot of people I know revere them, but I don't think I've ever heard a song, if I did I didn't know it, and I'm not really interested in knowing more. Also you mentioned My Bloody Valentine as an example, which is another one for me.

I would say I am a liar by omission. If a band like this comes up in conversation, I usually keep quiet and nod my head, and wait for a band I know something about to come back into the mix. Sometimes though, I don't mind admitting my ignorance, and I'll just say "Oh, I've heard the name but don't think I've ever heard their music" or something. If it's your friends you're talking to, I would hope they wouldn't judge you for not being familiar with every band they like. (That was a grammatically precarious sentence...)

Sent by nikki | 8:26 AM ET | 10-07-2008

haha. good post.
i don't know any slint or rodin, although my tastes indicate i should.

Sent by jon felton | 10:02 AM ET | 10-07-2008

I missed out on period of time in the early 90's when most of my friends were listening to great music. Only recently did I get into Dinosaur Jr., Built to Spill and even (gasp!) the Pixies.

On a more recent note -- I did not know anything by Deerhoof, that is until I saw them last night at the Wonder Ballroom.

Sent by setya | 10:16 AM ET | 10-07-2008

Carrie Brownstein

Carrie Brownstein

Carrie Brownstein is a writer and musician. She was a member of the critically acclaimed rock band Sleater-Kinney. Her writing has appeared in 'The New York Times,' 'The Believer,' 'Pitchfork,' and various book anthologies on music and culture. Read Carrie's F.A.Q.