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'Beauty Parlor Moms' Will Decide South Carolina

Andy Gobeil, host of South Carolina's "The Big Picture," a weekly news and public affairs program, calls them the "beauty parlor moms" - older African-American women - and he tells Talk of the Nation's Neil Conan they will decide the Democratic primary in South Carolina.

He's not the only one with this opinion. During the discussion of the New Hampshire primary results last night on CNN, Donna Brazile (chair of the Democratic National Party Voting Rights Institute) also said that women in South Carolina will decide the race between Barack Obama and Hilary Clinton.

"I believe the middle-aged, African-American female will be the decider in this election," Joe Werner, executive director of the South Carolina Democratic Party told the Chicago Tribune,"It will be the 45- to 65-year-old woman who goes to church and listens to the gospel stations we have down here, who will decide the election. You can count on them to show up on Election Day."

It's not an easy call to pick a favorite of this group. Hillary Clinton and her husband, former President Bill Clinton, have long been popular with the African-American community. But as Clarence Page of the Tribune also noted on Talk of the Nation, African-Americans have increasingly been rallying to the cause of Barack Obama in much the same way women came back to Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire.

 

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I don't think people should vote for Hillary Clinton just because she is a women. Your race makes no diffrence in this election. Its about how you can make the world a better place and focus about the issues. Bill Clinton was not a very good president so I don't see how Hillary would be better. My opion for voting would be "ABC" A= anyone B= but C= clinton

Sent by Raegyn | 6:06 PM ET | 01-09-2008

it's just absurd that the future of our nation might depend on such a small demographic. it's even more absurd that there's people out there skewing a candidate's stances and avowed views just to please this tiny demographic. but most absurd of all, is that Democratic Christians are just as gullible as Republican ones: they do whatever the preacher on the radio tells them to do.

Sent by justin | 7:58 PM ET | 01-09-2008

Women "could" form their own (separate) party. Hold their own primaries and select their own candidates. Since women outnumber men, .... you do the math!
But, Raegyn has a very good point!

Physical attributes DON'T make a leader.
FDR was in a wheelchair due to polio. And yet, he is was one of the greatest presidents of the 20th century. His "New Deal" policy laid the foundations of modern banking (insured deposits), took the U.S. off of a fixed monetary standard (allowing more growth), and created national system for older people to retire (cutting unemployment).

Most people forget, during Bill Clinton's presidency, Republicans controlled Congress. And shoved a lot of programs thru.

Sent by Harold | 9:56 PM ET | 01-09-2008

The title of this blog is really a sad one.('BEAUTY OARLOR MOMS' Will Decide South Carolina).
When Hillary chocked up in tears a day before NH primary: if those tears were sincere , it means WEAKNESS & DISHONESTY ( are you crying because you are loosing the election? its not about you Hillary, its about the people & may be the entire world ).If those tears were faked, then there you go.
We have enough of "pretending to but doing nothing" Clinton AND "alot of speeches but no action" Pelosi.

Sent by Kakel | 12:57 AM ET | 01-10-2008

Agreeing with Justin. The American voter is a fickle lot. It???s like watching a school of fish darting from one meal to the next, desperate not to be left behind whether there???s actually something there or not. Look at how a teary eye flipped all predictions on its ear. It reinforces the notion that we vote on emotion and not with unbiased intellect. So far the pollsters have predicted a nice white guy could take the prize in a predominately white Christian state, Clinton was suspect, and Obama just might be the second coming. I guess we shouldn???t be alarmed when the talking heads set up shop in a beauty parlor and just as sure some will take this as sign of sorts. After all this is from nation where some idiots actually think serving pancakes in New Hampshire has something to do with choosing the next president.

In the meantime true movers and doers of substantiated change, Richardson comes to mind real quick, are all but ignored and laid to waste. Pathetic really.

Sent by george gekas | 8:20 AM ET | 01-10-2008

I am a white, 51 year old middle class woman. In my teens and early twenties, I served my country in the USAF. I considered myself a patriot--that is until very recently. I don't remember the first time I saw or heard Senator Obama. It really doesn't matter I guess. What matters is the moment I did, I felt an immediate connection and a strong urge to participate in the upcoming election, very possibly the most important election in some time. Although I am a veteran I never voted in a presidential election. I always figured there was no point. Now, not only am I voting but I am doing everything in my power to help Senator Obama. Everyone talks "issues" and experience. I'm ashamed to admit that I wouldn't know a political issue if it jumped up and bit me. I know this much is true. Integrity and morality has to count for something and Barack has that in abundance. He's articulate and sincere. I could be wrong but I cannot foresee this nation watching him on television lying to the American people like Bill Clinton did about no end of things. Don't misunderstand, I like Bill Clinton. I can't help myself. I don't like how he made this nation look like fools though and his wife is much, much worse than he is. We cannot afford one more lie. We cannot afford someone heading this country that no one can trust. We can't afford someone who would willingly divide this nation. We just can't. I'm not politically savvy but I know good when I see it. Please, at least take a look at Barack Obama. Watch one of his speeches, I dunno, anything at all. Please.

Sent by Bobbie Campbell | 6:56 PM ET | 01-10-2008

I have spent my political life trying to get Democrats elected in a Republican State, i.e., Texas. The best we have been able to do in the last 15 years is get ex-Democrats to run as Republicans. Then we have won a few local elections. I think we have a winner in Senator Obama. I can't think of any good reason to move to either the Clinton or Edwards camp. Winning is important,otherwise nothing ever changes.

Sent by Paul Strohm | 7:42 PM ET | 01-10-2008

It is not experience, it is not race, it is not gender, but the quality, integrity and honesty of a person. Such a person is Barack Obama. Look at the difference in family relationships between the Clintons and the Obamas when they are on stage. You can see that the Obamas are a loving family. Can you say the same of the Clintons?

Sent by Gerry Manse | 8:37 PM ET | 01-10-2008

I am a woman from PA and I am sending this message to all the women of S.C. Please do not make the same MISTAKE as the women of NH made. DO NOT vote for Hillary just because she can 'cry' and she is a woman. She will not bring this country together as Barack will. Please vote Obama!!

Sent by kathy from PA | 8:57 PM ET | 01-10-2008

Why does everyone think C & C are "favorites" in the black community. And if they really are...WHY? As an African American female, I support Senator Obama because I truly believe that he can unify the country. Bush...Clinton...Bush...CHANGE!

Sent by Valarie Parsons | 10:29 PM ET | 01-10-2008

I'm a white upper middle class woman from NH who voted for Barack Obama. I cannot tell you how many people (men and women) came up to me the day after the primary and told me that if they had known the race was going to be so close (not the rout the polls indicated) they would not have voted for Edwards or Richardson, they would have voted for Obama. If it had been a Clinton/Obama race, I suspect Obama would have won by a large margin. I hope the voters in the other states realize this and don't make the same mistake.

Sent by Janet Bailey | 8:30 AM ET | 01-11-2008

Can we really take another four years of lies, and the Clinton's saying and doing what they want? We think we have problems now, oh my.....

Sent by yvonne from NY | 7:54 PM ET | 01-12-2008

The thought of Bill Clinton being even in the remote vicinity of the WhiteHouse is very upsetting to me. It is good to Forgive but please donot forget the shenanigans that accompanied the Dynamic Clinton Duo. This country is in need of Leadership....not theatrics, rehtoric or
or appearances. The Presidency of the United States is a dignified office let's elect someone that will uphold the Dignity of the Office and respect what it stands for.

Sent by Jerry Granacki | 4:39 PM ET | 01-13-2008

How can all you people be so naive about this Obama guy? Look close: there's nothing there but cheap rhetoric. Hillary can give this country the change it needs without throwing it into turmoil. I say vote for honest experience and solid know how. NOT to be found in Obama! This guy is scarey.

Sent by Jay Neel | 8:17 PM ET | 01-13-2008

What a pity that people are voting based on superficiality over actual issues. Do people realize that there is another front runner who probably has more appeal and viability in the general election and the media is not even talking about him? I'm talking about John Edwards. Polls say that he is the only Dem that can beat all GOP candidates. It would be nice to see more Americans taking a hard look at what they want their president to do for them and not make the same mistake we made by voting for the one they want to have a beer with. Substance people!

Sent by Tom | 4:59 AM ET | 01-14-2008

I have to agree with with Jay Neal. And it's not just posters on NPR who are losing their heads over the Obama charm offensive, it's the mainstream media (msm) as well.

The Sacramento Bee endorsed Obama as the dem nominee yesterday. Nowhere in their endorsement did they site a single reference to a policy that would justify their recommendation of him as presidential material. Not one. In an interview with the San Fran Chronicle published today, the reporter did everything but genuflect to Obama. He let Obama make "off the record" attacks against Hillary Clinton, and "justifications" about Obama's lack of experience. Obama played masterfully to the newspaper, stating that the newspapers had wasted "tons of ink" talking about how the system was broken, so why was experience within the broken system so important (paraphrased)? What he did not do was explain what needed to be done to fix the broken system and his plan for doing so. Just as he has never presented a comprehensive plan of action for all these "changes" he keeps talking about. And over and over and over, he is given a free pass by the msm and the beltway pundits. This man truly frightens me.

Sent by Jane from California | 7:06 PM ET | 01-21-2008

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