Use your imagination. Try to figure how many times the Obama people have tried to get the Tiger Woods people to convince Tiger to play a round of golf with Barack before the cameras.

Oh, okay. There'd be no contest. How about a round of putt-putt golf before the cameras. Barack and Tiger's photo together would his all the celeb magazines.

It might happen. But not before the election. It'll happen after Barack is out of the race, and Barack will be seeking newer and better ways to get on the cover of People Magazine.

But here's the intriguing part of Barack Obama's inevitable bubble burst.

Barack and Hillary have become so tied at the hips in the fanzine and paparazzi department that when Barack's bubble bursts, so will Hillary's bubble of fan popularity pop.

As the saying goes: Pop goes the weasel.

fred camorra call

Sent by fred camorra call | 11:44 AM ET | 02-22-2008

Fred, I read your comment several times and, honestly, I can't figure out exactly what you're trying to say.

However, this is a prime example of two things, I think:

1. How much the actual populace of the country is truly hungry for change, for the inspiration and breath of hope to actually break the crust of cynicism and political incest crippling Washington.

2. Just how keyed into that desire Aaron Sorkin and the rest of the West Wing team were. This wasn't really "Art imitating Life" or "Life imitating Art." I would say it's Art REFLECTING life...

Sent by Aaron Kesher | 1:18 PM ET | 02-22-2008

Sent by Aaron Kesher: Fred, I read your comment several times and, honestly, I can't figure out exactly what you're trying to say.

No problem, Aaron. Let me put it this way. The DNC (and I have been a registered Democrat my entire life) has devolved into soap opera.

Soap opera is watched by lonely, desperate housewives and divorced men who spend their afternoons counting flowers on the wall and playing solitaire with a deck of 51.

These are not the qualities of a world leader nation. If these soap opera addicts were to have their way, change would constitute America turning into a Road Warrior movie.

The Billaracky Soap Opera (Bill, Hillary and Barack) is not good art form. Except for those woeisme, down on their luck, diehard soap opera fanatics. Out there, in the BIG world or global economics, American needs strength in leadership. We don't need a young black man with a Tiger Woods like smile who only has the experience of a junior senator. We don't need a jilted former First Lady who has it in her mind that she can save her reputation from the Scarlet Letter A, for Adultery, by becoming president.

To reiterate, the paparazzi laden ties that bind Billaracky has the Gordian Knot of weakness that when one of the triumivirate falls, the other two fall. So goes the world of pop celebrity.

It never fails to amaze how far a certain segment of Americans will go in their idolatry and hero worship. That they will actually convince themselves that this is change.

The entire escapade of Billaracky was built on paparazzi fanzine slickness. In the scheme of global economics, such a composite was doomed from the get-go.

Now, we just sit back and watch the Billaracky soap opera disintegrate and America can get back to global politics.

Soap opera people are those who sit by the glow of their television sets and computer screens denying that there is any such entity as global economics. Soap opera people are not qualified to run General Motors or Mitsubishi. They are assuredly not capable of running Corporate America.

Where the DNC went wrong is a whole other set of examples.

fred camorra call

Sent by fred camorra call | 5:29 PM ET | 02-22-2008

Dear Fred...

I do hope i can finally engage you in a little bit of conversation finally. I think the change has already come. Whether or not you believe it there has been a change in American politics. The change is that more people actually care about who will be the next president now than ever have before.. the proof is as they say in the pudding.

So far in this election cycle every voting state, at least on the democratic side, has had record breaking turnout at the polls. If they are turning out to support Obama or Clinton,, they are showing up. that is the most important thing because the more people get involved the more likely we are to have some better ideas. The more ideas, the better chance we have at getting some real solutions to problems facing America. What it takes now is for people like you and me to help to educate new voters about the things they should be looking for and the things that are really going to matter for the next president. the office is not much more than a motivational speaking gig to begin with but you know just like i do that its the people behind the president that really determine the direction of this nation. Obama has said that he will...not will try but he will open up the doors to the real decision making that goes on.. That is something that we as educated citizens can hold him accountable for. WHEN THE PEOPLE SPEAK,, CHANGE HAS TO HAPPEN. All of the great leader in every culture have all been vulnerable to their own people.

look forward to your response....

Sent by J.A. WILSON | 8:38 PM ET | 02-22-2008

fred, I have sat staring at my computer screen with my mouth hanging open for fully 5 minutes.

You are scary. Your palpable bitterness is downright disturbing. Do you actually ever have real conversations with real people? Or do you just form your anger-laden opinions in the vacuum of your own little mind?, and spew them within the security of a blog.

Sent by Carol | 9:21 PM ET | 02-22-2008

Yes...and the "reality" TV is as entertaining as the soap! We are all not
so ignorant as to know the difference!
Entertainment comes in all forms. Maybe
Fred should speak at the Soap Opera convention...all those lonely woman
to appeal to......(put smile face here)

Sent by Jen B. | 9:21 PM ET | 02-22-2008

Sent by J.A. WILSON: So far in this election cycle every voting state, at least on the democratic side, has had record breaking turnout at the polls.

Okay, let's take Florida's turnout, for example. One of the states that doesn't count..........yet.

And if you'd been following my accounts from Florida, you'd understand what happened to create a large voter turnout.

Floridians were voting on a statewide Homestead Tax proposal. Governor Charlie Crist was all over the state getting people out to vote for his tax proposal. It worked for Charlie Crist. The tax proposal passed by a good margin.

Two, there were many, many local mayorial and city commission races being voted on at the same time. That upped the numbers of voters.

Truth is, Floridians expressed to me an overwhelming indifference to the Democrats and their boycott. But, while they were standing in the polling booth voting on taxes and mayors and city commissioners, they went ahead and pushed the button for Democratic contenders.

Now, Charlie Crist is being talked about as V.P. potential because of his ability to mobilize voters. In the general elections, voters can vote across party lines.

At the Denver convention, Hillary will get the Florida delegates seated, and maybe the Michigan delegates as well.

Pretty faced Barack Obama will be going out the door. Leaving us with the haggard nasty looks or a bitter woman.

Or, will Barack accept Hillary's bid to be her V.P. running mate? And will that scenario fly (probably not).

The Billaracky backlash will be that blacks will boycott Hillary. Democratic Party can't win without the black vote.

The black leaders have not forgotten how Hillary expertly put the knife into Barack's back in Florida.

In fact, they don't want to talk about it because Hillary made Barack look like a party amateur in Florida.

Like I said, truth is, Barack doesn't have the experience to be hired CEO of DisneyWorld Orlando, much less president of Corporate America.

And Hillary and Bill just plain nauseates everyone else. Bill is like an old man who doesn't know when his time is up.

And I believe in the system that weak candidates who have nothing showing except for being a woman and a black will not prevail in America. Too much is at stake.

Okay, J.A....your turn.

fred camorra call

Sent by fred camorra call | 11:30 PM ET | 02-22-2008

Sent by Carol: fred, I have sat staring at my computer screen with my mouth hanging open for fully 5 minutes.

Carol, please don't do that.

Since my return to New Mexico from Florida, I have been felled by this massive viral infection that is invading our airplanes like Snakes On A Plane.

The doctor put me on Ampucillin, 250 mm. If you do any serious flying while following this gawd forsaker election, talk to your doctor for preventitive medicines.

And when you fly, don't read anything i might write that will cause you to open your mouth for extended periods of time aboard an aircraft.

I would not wish this on you.

At any rate, I've seen enough in Florida and North Carolina (where Barack is branded a Muslim outright). I don't need to go anywhere else to toy with anymore of this viral infection business.

I'm sitting here on the farm in Roswell just safely doing my thing.

fred camorra call

Sent by fred camorra call | 11:38 PM ET | 02-22-2008

Yuo make some good points Fred but I do believe you are neglecting a couple of important factors. the thing with Florida that i have taken from your comments is this what Charlie Crist has done down there is the same thing that the Obama campaign has been doing every where else. Getting so many people organized to come out and participate that can't be ignored. Your own words were that voters in Florida were indifferent to the process or the democratic Boycott.. Wouldn't it be rather misguided faith in Hillary to suggest that without much in the way of mass protest from Floridians that she could have those delegates seated as they are? Also as to Obama's experience, I still fail to see where the problem lies, i mean i have looked over his policy platforms and i can't find anything that i could say hey that doesn't even make sense.. Isn't that what should be important,,how does this guy plan to fix what is wrong with this country. I like his approach so long as he keeps it. Our government was designed to be run by the people, for the people. i'm rather tired of politicians with this put your faith in me and don't worry about your county, i'll take care of everything, approach. It is good to have someone saying the important thing is to get every American involved in their government. Even C.E.O's are not all powerful. they have to do what makes their stockholders happy. If more company's would involve the stock holders and the people in the company in more of the decision making alot of the bonehead decisions wouldn't get made. Plus you would have a bigger idea bank to pull from...

Sent by J.A. WILSON | 1:27 PM ET | 02-23-2008

When I said the voters of Florida were....undecided....that sounds a little better than indifferent, it was not just Democrats. It was Republicans, too. The race between Romney and McCain went nip and tuck all night long. Until the retired military living the panhandle region were the last to have their precincts counted, and Florida went to McCain.

Now that it's all McCain, Charlie Crist will mobilize for the GOP with no trouble at all. And in honesty, I hadn't thought of Crist as a contender until I saw him work the masses.

Past as prologue, the southern states will continue to go GOP. A guy like Obama gets a gaggle of people in Detroit excited. Then he gets a gaggle of people in Chicago excited. And so forth. None of which amounts to an electoral bloc.

Now, I just finished watching a video clip of Obama and Clinton debating in Texas. Obama was trying to relate a story about troop strength in Iraq, versus troop strength in Afghanistan. The more Obama tried to differentiate between Iraq and Afghanistan, the more confused he got.

Finally, he has his one hand held high in the area as if he is punching out imaginary numbers for the world (and himself) to see. Cause it became distinctly clear to every voter connected in any way to the military that Barack needed an Atlas to get his mind cleared as to just where Iraq is, from where Afghanistan is located.

Meanwhile, Hillary is sitting there with her hands nattily folded, staring up at Barack's mimicking hand up above her head (according to camera angle), and she has this prissy smile that says, "You dumb ****! How stupid can you make yourself look on Texas television? And go ahead and keep making yourself look stupid in a state with heavy military ties."

It hit me that Barack Obama suffers what overnight pop/op icons go through in reality: he's not really all that intelligent. He was lost. He was flustered.

Now, the difference between Barack and Texan Tommy Lee Jones is that Tommy Lee Jones can tell you the difference between Iraq and Afghanistan. (See Valley of Elah).

And let me tell you something about Texans. They are very observant when a northerner from Hawaii comes into their state and can't get his spurs untangled.

And by this time, Chuck Norris is firmly behind John McCain.

fred camorra call

Sent by fred camorra call | 5:38 PM ET | 02-23-2008

Hey Fred, I guess you don't have to
vote Republican now....Ralph is your man,
if he can't do it , no one can!

Sent by Jen B. | 10:42 AM ET | 02-24-2008

Yes, Jen....Hallelujah! There is a god. And god has given rise to a new hope for the Dennis Kucinich and Ron Paul disappointed: Ralph Nader is back! He's officially running.....AND, he's older than John McCain!!!

Ya know, the more this thing develops in 2008, the more it looks like deja vu all over again. We are, in a sense, reliving the 70s. Or, trying to. There's a lot of stumbling blocks and hurdles in the way before anyone can come even remotely close to a quantum leap back to those halcyon days.

Pundits are saying that the 'McGovern' wing of the Democratic Party will separate Barack from the Billaracky hydra and that Hillary and Bill are done for.

Ya know, again, I hadn't even realized there was a 'McGovern' wing still breathing in the Democratic party. I mean, when I worked for the McGoevern campaign back then, against Nixon, well, we had so much fun and were so stoned that it took maybe six weeks for us to realize the party was over and Nixon had taken 49 states. But, who cared? Back then we could play the same Cheech and Chong albums over and over like they were the first time, each time: "Who? Dave? Dave's not here."

Do I think that this so-called respirated 'McGovern' wing of the Democratic party can have as much fun humping Barack and Nader as we did back then humping McGovern (and sometimes Nader, when his book was a best-seller: Unsafe at Any Speed.)

No. Times have changed waaaaayyyy toooo much. You still better keep using them condoms if you know what's good for you.

Ah, well. Nader's back. You can email George McGovern at Mcgoverncenter@dwu.edu. Don't tell him I sent you. If only Richard Pryor was still around, what a heck of a run it might turn out to be.

Though, for me, the past is the past. Great memories, to be sure. I've never been one to try to relive the past. Never went to a high school reunion to see people I didn't like when I was in high school.

But...at this point in the game, if enough people want to chip in on an autographed Tommy Chong Bong.....why not? Just for a couple of sittings and giggles.

Never say I was one to turn down a good laugh.

fred camorra call

PS....Hey, if ya'll want to come out to Roswell in July and hunt UFOs while looking for the McGovern years, come on out. I'll be here.

Sent by fred camorra call | 2:31 PM ET | 02-24-2008

Well Fred, if you were with McGovern
back then...you must be friends with
Bill & Hillary. Bill was there when he
didn't inhale! As for McGovern, he is still alive and endorsing Hillary...so how
is it that Bill & Hillary will be gone?
Also, I had wondered how friendly you
were with the ET locals out in Roswell...who do they want to win?
Now tell me this because I'm younger than you...what might be different
if your friend McGovern won back then?
Cheers!

Sent by Jen B. | 8:19 AM ET | 02-25-2008

Sent by Jen B. Now tell me this because I'm younger than you...what might be different if your friend McGovern won back then?

Well, for one, Woody Harrelson would never have been charged with a felony for growing hemp in the way Jefferson and Washington and the rest used to grow hemp back in the thirteen colonies.

Here's a funny but scary little astrological bit of trivia in what I have in common with Hillary Clinton, Mitt Romney, Arnold Schwarzenneger and David Lettermen. We were all born within five months of each other. But we don't exchange birthday cards. It's too frightening a bit of synchronicity to be reminded of annually.

The ETs? Their technology is so far beyond fanzine based tabloid Billaracky political models they really don't let this stuff bother them. In fact, they think of Steven Spielberg kind of the way we humans think of Hans Christian Anderson.

In short, America is great because you are free to create your own reality. Long as you don't start undressing on the fifty yard line at the Super Bowl. But if McGovern had won, pigs would fly. If the Billaracky blimp flew over the White House, there would be no more need for Disney World.

Still, Jen, we hold onto these Peter Max self created truths to protect our Yellow Submarine from the Big Blue Fisted Meanies. So we can enjoy our cereal a little more in the morning.

There is no machine for creating fantasy like the American model.

All in all it's just another brick in the wall.

fred camorra call

PS...in a previous incarnation, Ralph Nader was Rip Van Winkle.

Sent by fred camorra call | 10:20 AM ET | 02-25-2008

Fred, I didn't realize Ralph had problems with his wife?! I think you miss the 70's
too much...was there a first love?
Hillary is beginning to show fangs now...
she'll be off the radar screen soon. Such a shame as Bill was campaigning
so consistently for her. Vampires don't make good presidents...they tend to get very little sleep. Anyway, tell me this,
why is it that Huckabee is hanging in...
could it be he likes the attention?
Cheers!

Sent by Jen B. | 11:49 AM ET | 02-25-2008

I loved the idea of a Santos for president, and for that reason I have been stirred by the idea of Obama. I'm still on the fence however, partly because I need to find out more about how much Obama knows about women's issues.

Fred, in one of your posts you wrote:
"Pretty faced Barack Obama will be going out the door. Leaving us with the haggard nasty looks or a bitter woman."

Why do you mention the gender of the bitter person here? Why is that relevant? Is a bitter woman different than a bitter man? This smacks of an unconscious sexism here that is tough to hear from someone as seemingly educated and active in the political system as you. Of course even though you are educated and active in the political system that doesn't mean I agree with you. It sounds like you are older than I (I'm 34) but I hope I'm not as bitter as you when I get to be your age...

Sent by Karen | 12:51 AM ET | 04-28-2008

I worry about Obama's presidency when I consider that even Jimmy Smits' charisa could not raise the fledgling ratings of the West Wing. Of course Obama has more publicity $ than the West Wing did with probably a weak attempt to revive the series in it's last season...

Sent by Karen | 12:54 AM ET | 04-28-2008