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McCain Mixes Up Shiites, Sunni Extremists

First John McCain went to Iraq and and had a hard time getting anyone to notice it in the midst of the ongoing Democratic presidential contest.

Then he got Shiite and Sunni extremists mixed up. But they're all the same, right?

Well, yes and no. Catholic and Protestant extremists in Northern Ireland both used violence, but they were certainly not the same in ideology, nor were their goals the same.

So you would think that Republican presidential nominee Sen. John McCain, who has made his knowledge about the Iraq war a key part of his campaign to be the president, would know the difference between the two. But on Tuesday in Jordan, the Washington Post reports he seemed to mix the two up.

Speaking to reporters in Amman, the Jordanian capital, McCain said he and two Senate colleagues traveling with him continue to be concerned about Iranian operatives "taking al-Qaeda into Iran, training them and sending them back."

Pressed to elaborate, McCain said it was "common knowledge and has been reported in the media that al-Qaeda is going back into Iran and receiving training and are coming back into Iraq from Iran, that's well known. And it's unfortunate." A few moments later, Sen. Joseph Lieberman, standing just behind McCain, stepped forward and whispered in the presidential candidate's ear. McCain then said: "I'm sorry, the Iranians are training extremists, not al-Qaeda."

(Here's video)

The Post notes that the mistake "threatened to undermine McCain's argument that his decades of foreign policy experience make him the natural choice to lead a country at war with terrorists."

 

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Whoa.

Before you Liberal Utopians start criticizing John McCain's visit to Iraq, let's review what many news anchors are saying about McCain's travels.

First off, this is a rare moment in political history when a presidential candidate can travel outside the United States.

This shows how much more united the GOP is over the Liberal Utopians of the Democratic Party. The Democratic candidates can't hardly move. They've got each other so walled in with racial arguments.

John McCain is currently in Israel.

So, before you Liberal Utopians go spouting negatives about John McCain's travels, remember this: The Democratic candidates are about as mobile as having cement overshoes.

fred camorra call

Sent by fred camorra call | 4:07 PM ET | 03-18-2008

And people said Al Gore was "wooden"...

Sent by morgan | 5:01 PM ET | 03-18-2008

Well, Mccain's judgement has always been deeply suspect, ever since he let himself be horribly tortured for 4 years rather than go home when the NV offered, because he was afraid he'd embarrassed his 4 star admirals father + grandfather by criticizing America in a taped message.

If you don't know the difference between the Shiites and Sunnis, and that Al Qaida has been blowing up Shiites, you don't know nuttin.

Sent by Michael Hammerschlag | 5:02 PM ET | 03-18-2008

This reflects the classic neo-conservative mind set that a terrorist is a terrorist. There is no indepth understanding of the motivations of any of those we are attempting to confront. As a result, we are dealing with every nuanced problem with one answer - War.

Sent by Cynthia Nelms | 5:18 PM ET | 03-18-2008

If we're going to be there for the next 100 years, we should learn the difference between the shiites and the sunnis. It doesn't seem as though Bush and the neocons knew the difference whn they started their splendid little war. One would expect better from McCain.

Sent by Mike Fleissner | 5:24 PM ET | 03-18-2008

So, it's the same old McSame. After nearly eight years of our present administration getting the facts wrong, those who support McSame can expect. . .more of the same.

Sent by Kathryn Lively | 5:26 PM ET | 03-18-2008

WOW. This is very informative. I had a certain measure of respect for McCain, based on his willingness to go against popular opinion when it came to the war issue. This suggests to me that he is probably not sufficiently prepared for foreign policy issues. He ought to step aside and let Ron Paul take the candidacy. ;-)

Sent by Jody Sol | 5:37 PM ET | 03-18-2008

Who is this Ginko kid on here! Does Obama have to assault his Pastor for you to be happy. He has condemn the statements. He said he was there when controversial statements were made, not the anti american racist comments. Rev. Wright grew up in the civil rights era, ofcourse he's gonna harbor anger. Obama grew up in a different time and doesn't share the same views as Rev. Wright, so why are we holding him responsible for these statements. For us to assume he should just abandon this pastor is foolish, because it's the fights that people like this pastor has fought that has made it possible for minorities and people like Obama to be where he is!

Sent by nish | 5:40 PM ET | 03-18-2008

The man is an IDIOT which qualifies him to be the perfect successor to the current Idiot-in-Chief.

Sent by Bob | 5:51 PM ET | 03-18-2008

Sent by Michael Hammerschlag: Well, Mccain's judgement has always been deeply suspect, ever since he let himself be horribly tortured for 4 years........

That pretty much sums it up for the vileness of Liberal Utopians.

Let himself be tortured, huh?

That's cute. This is one that I'm definitely passing around on the emails. Just to let everyone know how you Liberal Utopians feel about us Veterans who fought for 'our' country.

Well, my friend, remember this: what goes around, comes around. What you wish on another man will come back to you tenfold.


fred camorra call

Sent by fred camorra call | 8:59 PM ET | 03-18-2008

"McSame McCain" - Great description of he who would like to be the next "Idiot in Chief".

PLEASE NOTE: I truly suspect that Cheney-Bush are crafting a war against Iran in order to [what they hope will] escort McSame directly into office. Having lied our nation into war w/Iraq, which was led - essentially - by a chump dictator, well, let's see, how do they gain credibility among conservatives and ensure Republican control of the White House and perhaps Congress? Both are slipping away from Republican control.

Well, my bet: they figure that, if we're at war w Mahmud Ahmadinejad and Iran, Americans will more likely support McCain based on his military past and a Republican Congress to "ok" every military move.

A little to calculating? Consider the Cheney/Bush saber rattling at Iran as well as McSame's willingness to commit us to a 100-years war in Iraq. For some reason, conservative Christians like war, and yep, they'd probably rally around a McSame. So, for all their practical purposes, Cheney/Bush are getting Republicans in line so that they march in line toward war.

Funny thing: for some reason, I also figure that they???re prepping us for a US/Iran war because it???s a bigger investment than the war against Al-Queda and the Taliban in Afghanistan, which is dispersed throughout mountainous territory, straddling both Afghanistan and Pakistan. The military-industrial complex stands to make a lot of money for those so vested.

Wonder if there are any, and if so, how many Vegas, bets are out on this?

Sent by Dana | 11:50 PM ET | 03-18-2008

Whoa yourself there Fred, you have libeal and Utopians mixed up. It was your neo-con friends that sold the American people on this war as a creator of a democratic Utopia. At least after the WMD and al Qaeda ties were proven wrong - and proven the admisnistration knew that going in.

Now to McCain. Guy admits knowing nothing about the eonomy. Wants us to stay in Iraq for a 100 years - keep the Bush tax cuts for the rich so we can keep digging our hole of debt.

He has been briefed at least a few dozen times on who is who in Iraq, he has no primary campaign to worry about now, and he can not recall his briefings?

RandyT, USN Ret.

Sent by Randy T. of Lewisville, TX | 1:28 AM ET | 03-19-2008

Sent by Randy T. of Lewisville, TX Whoa yourself there Fred, you have libeal and Utopians mixed up. It was your neo-con friends that sold the American people on this war as a creator of a democratic Utopia.

Whoa, there, yourself, Randy.

But, before we move ahead with me setting you straight, I lived for a time in Lewisville. Had me a Texas style girlfriend there. Home of the Fighting Farmers. Back when I was traveling down to Austin to cover Texas when George Bush was running for re-election in '98, so's he could be president in 2000.

Used to hang out at Sneaky Petes on Lake Lewisville. She had a sailboat docked there. Back when Michael Irving and Emmit Smith and them guys kept their sailboats docked there.

You play any disc golf down at the park?

Anyway, Randy, while setting you straight. I've been Liberal Democrat since Vietnam. We've always had to deal with the leftists who just went too far left. Like the guys who set fires at Kent State and ended up getting four innocent people killed.

Liberal Utopians, you guys who think you live in Shagri-La, have this conceptualization that the world is a turn-your-cheek rose garden. You are weak and ready to be plucked. Can't be having that happen to this great country of ours.

And what sold this country on Iraq is a couple of airplanes that took down a couple of buildings on Manhattan Island. Plus the fact that Putin's ready to send his Russian troops into Iraq should you Liberal Utopians help al-Qaeda win. After which al-Qaeda will send a few more terrorist groups over here to take down a few more buildings.

And you Liberal Utopians are making fools of yourselves by trying to make a big deal out of a mis-speak by McCain, while McCain is in Iraq.

Which only reminds the voters that the Democratic candidates have so hamstrung themselves that they are having trouble traveling to their hotel room's bathroom. Much less traveling overseas.

So, you do any sailing on the lake?

And if you run into Laura, tell her I said I still think of her often enough.

Texas ladies: You can't never forget them.

fred camorra call

Sent by fred camorra call | 9:28 AM ET | 03-19-2008

Hmmm, seems to me we went to Afghanistan first chasing the 911 AL-Qaeda terrorists into the mountains of Tora Bora but couldn't get the trap closed because of the buildup for the war in Iraq.

Then we went to Iraq with the neocon's pollyanna expectations and no Phase IV planning (that would be the occupation part, post-combat) and disbanded the government and the army, spilling a couple hundred thousand unemployed soldiers on the streets and three-quarters of the civil service employees, that would be Rummy's and Cheney's "dead enders".

An insurgency springs up, which is initially ignored, and, of course, Al-Qaeda follows us to Iraq. We spend tons of money, all of it borrowed, and four years into it decide that the original advice of Army Chief of Staff Gen. Eric Shinseki back in '02 was correct. We need a couple hundred thousand troops to control the place, that would be the current "surge".

And now our man on the ground reports to us that the surge is working, only he still doesn't have a handle on who Al-Qeada really is or where they are coming from. Here's a hint, look in the Northwestern Tribal area of Pakistan and now in and around Southern Afghanistan.

Chester Morrison
USA Ret.

Sent by Chester | 12:16 PM ET | 03-19-2008

I think this was an honest mistake. But this will certainly fuel the argument that he might be 'too old' to serve as president...

Sent by Fatima | 3:28 PM ET | 03-19-2008

I can go into town all day, come back, and rest assured that you Liberal Utopians are still talking about the same things this afternoon you were talking about this morning.

1. Trying to blame the GOP for your screw ups.

2. Trying to deny it's a racial issue, while making a racial issue out of the conversation.

3. And pretty much continuing to beat each other up.

Meanwhile, John McCain has been around the world, while the Barack guy is sitting in some local sound study trying to make up excuses for the people he has been associated with.

When you got no experience, you got to settle for whatever people can buy you a trip to the top, for a while, before the big fall from amazing grace.

McCain has the respect of the generals. The Obama guy, he has the respect of girl scouts.

Kind of a big difference.

But you Liberal Utopians who are screaming for CHANGE never CHANGE the tenor of you pea souping and moaning.

fred camorra call

Sent by fred camorra call | 6:19 PM ET | 03-19-2008

So, I'll get mine, eh?

See the biggest scandal of the war you never heard of- why most Americans have died there, cause the 3 month in-and-out obsession of the Bushies caused military leaders to not destroy or even guard the vast stockpiles of munitions, letting half of them be looted. http://hammernews.com/lootedhopes.htm

Sent by michael hammerschlag | 3:40 PM ET | 04-24-2008

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