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AP FactCheck: Obama's Connections to Ayers Tenuous

William Ayers probably never got this much attention even when he was a member of the radical Weather Underground.

Ayers is, of course, today's 24x7 instant media story because of his 'relationship' with Sen. Barack Obama. Based on the exchange about Ayers during Wednesday night's debate in Philadelphia, you might have thought that Obama and Ayers were plotting the overthrow of the U.S. government together 40 years ago - even if Obama was only eight at the time.

But an Associated Press fact check shows that the connections between Obama and Ayers are a bit more tenuous -- if there is a connection at all.

So here are the facts:

Ayers was a member of the group when a bomb it was making in a Manhattan townhouse exploded and killed three people. He fled, spend years as a fugitive, met and fell in love with fellow group member Bernadine Dohrn. In the mid-'70s, the federal charges against Ayers and Dohrn were dismissed because of government misconduct. But the two kept underground for three more years. They both surrendered to police in 1980 and were never prosecuted (a point not mentioned during last night's debate).

In 1982 Dohrn spent several months in jail for refusing to give police a sample of her writing while police were investigating a case where three Weathermen and members of the Black Liberation Army killed an armored car driver and two policemen during a botched robbery. Dohrn was not involved in the incident in any way, but refused to give the police the sample "on principle."

When Obama was organizing his first race for the state legislature [in 1995], the incumbent lawmaker he hoped to replace introduced him to her supporters and urged them to back Obama. One introductory event took place at the home of Ayers and Dohrn, according to published reports. Ayers contributed $200 to Obama's legislative campaign in 2001, but there is no other sign that he has actively aided Obama's political career.

Ayers and Obama both served on the board of the Woods Fund, a Chicago-based charity that focuses on developing community groups to assist the poor. Local business executives ... and journalists .. are also members, as well as local academics.

Here's a good 2001 profile of Ayers by the Chicago Tribune.

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UPDATE: The Swamp reports that Mayor Richard Daley comes to Obama's defense.

The mayor released the following statement:

"There are a lot of reasons that Americans are angry about Washington politics. And one more example is the way Senator Obama's opponents are playing guilt-by-association, tarring him because he happens to know Bill Ayers.

"I also know Bill Ayers. He worked with me in shaping our now nationally-renowned school reform program. He is a nationally-recognized distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois/Chicago and a valued member of the Chicago community.

"I don't condone what he did 40 years ago but I remember that period well. It was a difficult time, but those days are long over. I believe we have too many challenges in Chicago and our country to keep re-fighting 40 year old battles."

But the Clinton campaign won't give up. In conference calls today, Clinton spokesman said Ayers "political" relationship with Obama was more important than President Clinton's decision to pardon two of former Weather Underground members, Susan Rosenberg and Linda Evans on terrorist related weapons charges.

Communications director Howard Wolfson also said that "Bill Ayers is unrepentant of what he did???and that is a difference, of course, between Linda Evans and Susan Rosenberg." But when Evans was released after Bill Clinton pardoned her, she told the Austin American-Statesman, "I'm not repentant. That's for sure. I wouldn't go about it the same (violent) way." But "we still need solutions, and we still need justice just as badly as we ever did."

"Asked if Hillary Clinton had expressed any disagreement with her husband's actions in commuting the sentences of Rosenberg and Evans, Wolfson said only that he would ask the candidate."

 

Comments

"God is dead, and no one cares, if there is a hell, I'll see you there"

-Trent Reznor.

Sent by Jody Sol | 9:46 PM ET | 04-17-2008

Good jorb, Hillary! Since events of 50 years ago are defining, let's point out that she worked on Barry Goldwater's campaign back in the 1960s.

Sent by Sweetie | 10:07 PM ET | 04-17-2008

A long time ago this campaign jumped the shark.

Now it's humping the shark.

And it ain't pretty.

Sent by Dave | 2:34 AM ET | 04-18-2008

I was shocked and appalled at the questions being asked in the ABC debate. I wanted to hear about how the candidates are going to deliver on their goals. What their plans are about the economy and foreign policy. I wanted an intelligent debate over it.
With the questions being asked by ABC moderators it was impossible. I do not care what Obama's pastor said, I do not care that he doesn't wear a flag pin, I do not care what Clinton said about when she was in Bosnia, and I do not care abouts Obama's non-existent relationship with some former member of the weather underground.
People want to claim that Obama's comments were elitist and out of touch how about the media is whats really out of touch!

Sent by Justin F | 3:07 AM ET | 04-18-2008

Interesting, wouldn't you think Wolfson would already know if Hillary "had expressed any disagreement" with her husband? Also, wouldn't decent debate moderators have followed up with that exact question? Experience, nothing like it!

Sent by Margaret | 7:44 AM ET | 04-18-2008

I'll bet Bill "pardoned" Linda Evans. I'm surprised to learn she was a radical. She didn't seem that way at all on Dynasty.

Sent by P. Shears | 8:42 AM ET | 04-18-2008

The most troubling thing to me about all of this is how many of the voting public won't bother to read stories like this. They will just go off of their knee jerk reactions and spread hate. I expect that out of people who have no intention of ever voting democratic, regardless of the candidate. I'll admit to having a decided bias against Bush myself. But I'm troubled nonetheless about the messages of hate, about the potential for untruths to poison the opinions of people who are on the fence, but who aren't willing to go the extra step and find information such as this. I'm afraid the MSM won't be reporting on the positives any time soon, nor do they care to illustrate their wrongheadedness when it comes to their soundbites. Thank you NPR for being a decent place to find accurate information.

Sent by Jenn | 9:13 AM ET | 04-18-2008

NOTE TO ABC:

Please stop playing political grab ass. WE the American People want answers to questions that we care about, education, medical care, social security, THE WAR, etc. You should be ashamed for wasting the American Peoples time and brain cells. Your actions are analagous to those of US Weekly.

Sent by shaun d | 9:18 AM ET | 04-18-2008

Hindsight has always been a powerful spotlight on the tragedies of history and very likely may once again illuminate an American tragedy when we look back on the cascade of historical events that may and probably will follow this unnecessarily prolonged and increasingly hurtful democratic primary. Anyway we the cheering spectators may someday be the fleeing victims in the burning stadium of state.

Sent by bill hogan | 9:40 AM ET | 04-18-2008

ABC should indeed be ashamed of itself. That debate was a farce. At this point there could be nothing worse for the Democratic Party than for this ridiculous, painful, and divisive campaign to continue. Sen. Clinton, you have to step down before it's too late.

Sent by Kasreyn | 10:22 AM ET | 04-18-2008

Stephanopolous (sp?) has very close ties to the Clintons, due to his time in Bill's cabinet. So who really thought he could be independent as a debate moderator between Barack Obama and Bill's wife?
The failing economy is an issue. The war is an issue. Mr. Ayers is not an issue. We don't have to split hairs to decide whether or not he is reformed or is a good guy. It's irrelevant... Obama is not Mr. Ayers. The politics of guilt by association have to stop.

Sent by Joel | 10:38 AM ET | 04-18-2008

Oh, P. how nice you gave back. LOL.

Anywhoo, yes the relationship with Ayers seems incidental and I never really thought much of it. This is small potatoEs anyway compared to "bittergate."

What really bugs me is that lefty scum like Ayers is welcomed and embraced by academia. Imagine an unrepentant abortion clinic bomber in the same circumstances. I bet you can't.

Thus is the intellectual wasteland of modern academia.

Sent by deek | 1:48 PM ET | 04-18-2008



   
   
   
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