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How "Bitter" Are Voters About Obama Comments?

Sen. Barack Obama's comments about rural Pennsylvanians being bitter over their economic situation has touched a nerve. But exactly whose nerve may be the question.

Over the weekend, the blogosphere, political pundits and cable news networks buzzed with talk about the remarks and whether or not they would derail Obama's campaign. But in the rural communities that were the focus of Obama's remarks, there does not seem to be anywhere near the outrage that there was in the media.

In a USAToday story, Ken Dilanian reports that in interviews with over a dozen people in heavily Republican York County Pennsylvania, "even conservative Republicans couldn't muster the sort of outrage over Obama's remarks that Clinton backers were expressing Sunday."

Several McCain supporters here said the comments wouldn't play well among rural Americans. But nearly everyone allowed that, in fact, many small-town residents are indeed bitter.

"Hell, yeah, they're bitter," said Harold Creager, a retired phone company technician who was sipping coffee in Rutter's, a convenience store. "George Bush has been a disappointment. The economy. Jobs. Immigration -- we're being invaded."

Philly.com columnist Jon Baer, "a native-born, small-town Pennsylvanian, a son of native-born, small-town Pennsylvania parents - one from the coal region, one from Lancaster County," writes that Obama was "basically right on target."

"What's offensive to me is suggesting that small-town, working-class, gun-toting and/or religious Pennsylvanians are somehow injured by a politician's words. Are you kidding me? They're injured all right, but the injury is long-term and from lots more than 'just words.' "

The Indianapolis Star interviewed people in Muncie and found a similar lack of anger from voters, but they did find that many wanted the candidates to stop bickering.

"Senator Obama was a working folk himself, and outside of the realm of campaigning, I think [Clinton's] view would change," said Wayne Davis, 55, a machine operator, who is leaning toward voting for Obama. "I'd like for them to focus more on the issues and less on the other candidate."

NPR's Washington Editor Ron Elving said on Day to Day that it would not be "beyond the realm for Obama to consider something like the speech he gave after the Wright sermons went out to on video. Not to address race, but to address the very issues that he was trying to raise that people are distracted from their economic by social questions and social issues." But Ron does point out that whenever there is a debate of economics versus social interests, Democrats have almost always been on the losing end.

 

Comments

I don't believe Senator Obama was incorrect and resent how his remarks have been taken up by Senators Clinton and McCain. It's elitist to own 8 homes, or to have earned $109 million over the past seven years. Furthermore I'm very bitter over the war and how the Bush Administration has shamelessly promoted it, and I'm bitter that Congress was too frightened and cowardly to challenge Bush and his Administration over this war and other domestic and foreign policies.

Sent by Nancy Eichler | 2:27 PM ET | 04-14-2008

And the clueless echo chamber continues.

Looks like the everyday American is getting set-up to be the patsy again for being offended at clueless liberal elitism.

"Well they're stupid rednecks if they don't vote for someone who obviously understands them even more than they understand themselves."

Keep telling yourselves that it all about the bitter.

It an amazing thing to watch from the outside I'll tell ya.

Sent by deek | 2:40 PM ET | 04-14-2008

As Michigan-native Erin Kotecki Vest wrote in the Huffington Post (http://tinyurl.com/5nlmbe), "This former Midwest girl is telling you Obama is not being 'elite' or 'out of touch' -he could NOT be MORE in touch. He's LISTENING and understanding that many of us who moved away and many of us that stayed are angry, frustrated, disappointed, disillusioned, and UNEMPLOYED."

Sent by Brian Hawthorne | 2:40 PM ET | 04-14-2008

In a very subtle manner this site is becoming a Clinton extension. The phrasing of topics. We are noticing this.It needs to be fair and balanced on all candidates.

Sent by Ty | 2:47 PM ET | 04-14-2008

Of course there's no backlash. Senator Obama is right. People are angry and bitter at politicans. That's news?!?

What should have people angry is that someone like Senator Clinton - who with her husband cashed in on their public service to the tune of $100+ million - can accuse Barack Obama of being an elitist. And do it with a straight face.

The only mistake Senator Obama made was limiting his comment to small towns. Those of us in cities, and I imagine suburbs and farms too, are also bitter and tired of business as usual in politics.

My concern about Senator Obama isn't that he's elitist. It's that he's too smart and honest.

Sent by Phil R | 2:53 PM ET | 04-14-2008

It's confusing when responders here are critical of condescension but engage in it openly and repeatedly themselves.

Sent by Michelle | 2:55 PM ET | 04-14-2008

Quick question: was Barack Obama actually wrong?

His words might have been inartful, inelegant, and yes, subject to derision, but was the substance of his actual idea wrong?

Robert Reich and Thomas Frank don't seem to think so:

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/4/14/11646/4005/930/495360

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/04/14/thomas-frank-on-obama-not_n_96528.html

Not only that, considering the report today that 60% of Americans will not be able to buy a home for 2 years, that the war in Iraq is going nowhere fast, that fuel/food prices are at an all time high, that jobs are constantly being shipped overseas, that the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina is still being felt...

Well, doesn't anger and frustration logically ensue? And wouldn't an expression of this real anger qualify people as bitter?

Sent by Frank | 3:01 PM ET | 04-14-2008

Pittsburgh Post-Gazette's online poll of which presidential candidate is "out of touch" with PA voters:

http://www.post-gazette.com/polls/Default.asp

(Hint: it's HRC by 43%)

Obama '08!

Sent by Margie | 3:23 PM ET | 04-14-2008

Before I get started on my comment with the ever so talented words of Sen. Obama. I would like to send my regards to NPR for the great job they do on allowing everyday citizens to speak their minds on many issues. Today during my lunch hour I was tentatively listening to Talk of the Nation as I do most weekdays. I was very alarmed of the assumptions that Sen. Obama made of the great citizens of our country. Yes, for many years alot of the mid western towns have had economic decline but it is not because of their religon or where they have been brought up. It has been because of education opportunties of this great country. In the heartland today many combine tractors use statelitte technolgy to aline their rows of soy,wheat,and corn. Which is used in many commodities all of the world. But these schools are in more metro areas. Thirty years ago many families left the farms, because they where being bought and bought by bigger landowners. But this has nothing to due with religon or are right to bear arms. I hope these comments will wake America up. So, they see that this good Ole' Sen. Obama truly has no love or apperication of Our Great Country. He has no agenda or plans to help led this country foward. Just because he was a community organizer in Chicago does not make him American, I have read that he was raised abroad.
I am very proud of my mid western hertitage, we can not forget these mid-western farmers won the Alamo, helped build the railroad, they keep American and other countries fed everyday... And the corn and soy the are growing is helping with the oil crisis and global warming. It is time that the Heartland stands up ! It is our time to be heard !

Sent by Jamie Jo White | 3:28 PM ET | 04-14-2008

Midwestern farmers won at the Alamo? Wow, JJW, you are from a parallel universe. It wasn't the farmers but the migrant farm workers' ancestors that won at the Alamo. I don't understand how you can conclude that Obama has no love or pride in his country. Is it because he doesn't wear an enamel flag pin in his lapel?

Sent by P. Shears | 4:45 PM ET | 04-14-2008

I'm a midwesterner who supports Sen. Clinton not Sen. Obama, and I have to say JJW's letter does not look real to me. It looks like a "dumb rube" plant.

Sent by Susan | 6:24 PM ET | 04-14-2008

I for one am tired of hearing rich, white guys tell me what I should be upset about today.

Also, please print what Obama said (it's fairly short) instead of one sentence and pages of commentary and analysis.

Sent by Maddie | 10:54 PM ET | 04-14-2008

Where is the outrage:
For what the Catholic church did to the kids (The future of the country).
Let us see if Hillary would come out and reject as well as denounce the Pope.
Let us see how tough she is.
And for those still supporting the church remember the law of asociation means you are in support of what the church did.

Sent by Christy | 10:50 AM ET | 04-15-2008


Hillary's bitters?
Give me there , eh, hicks! the White hicks! Oval house!
"Apr 12, 2008 ...Sen Hillary Clinton also visited a restaurant in Crown Point, Indiana .. Clinton stood by the bar and took a shot of Crown Royal whiskey. She took one sip of the shot, then another small sip, then a few seconds later threw her head back and finished off the whole thing."

http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/04/clinton-takes-a.html

America wants you. Don't let the White House go to pot - with drunks!

Sent by chokora | 3:51 PM ET | 04-15-2008

when obama said people cling to anti-immigration sentiments, guns and religion; I think what he meant was these are non issues, red herrings used to distractor rural voters who might be less informed than other voters. It is the religious right and conservatives who use these issues to make people think this is what they should be focused on.

Sent by morris dedflauer | 3:01 PM ET | 04-16-2008



   
   
   
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