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Michigan Backs Down A Bit, Proposes New Solution

Sen. Hillary Clinton will not be happy with this.

Democrats in Michigan have sent a letter to the Democratic National Committee that proposes a new solution to the battle over whether or not they should by allowed to seat their delegates at the national convention. Under their solution, Clinton would pick up a 10-seat advantage in Michigan, with Clinton getting 69 pledged delegates to 59 for Barack Obama.

The letter, sent by Sen. Carl Levin, Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick,UAW President Ron Gettelfinger, and DNC Member Debbie Dingell calls on Clinton, Obama and the DNC to sign on to the proposal.

The Obama camp immediately said "we'll look into it." It's not the perfect solution for them, but it's close. Only allowing Clinton to pick up 10 delegates really won't make much of a dent in Obama's pledged delegate lead. That's why this solution still may not fly - it won't make the Clinton camp happy. And DNC chairman Howard Dean has said that both camps have to agree on a solution or else it will go to the credentials committee to work it all out.

Here is the letter:

April 29, 2008

Mr. Mark C. Brewer
Chairman Michigan Democratic Party
606 Townsend Lansing, MI 48933

Dear Chairman Brewer: As you know, the four of us have been working to resolve the current impasse between our state and the Democratic National Committee created by the DNC's selective enforcement of its calendar rules in granting New Hampshire a waiver to those rules while denying the Michigan Democratic Party's similar request for a waiver to select our delegates based on the results of the upcoming primary scheduled by the Michigan Legislature on January 15. None of us have endorsed a presidential candidate. Our focus is to ensure that Michigan's delegation to the Democratic National Convention in August is seated with full voting rights, and that the nominating process is reformed for future elections.

Over the past several months, we looked at a number of options to "redo" Michigan's primary vote. We considered a privately-funded state-run primary; a party-run primary; and even a vote-by-mail primary. We had extensive discussions with the Clinton and Obama campaign organizations and with the DNC staff in the course of considering these options. Unfortunately, for differing reasons, none of the "redo" options that we considered proved to be feasible.

Recently, our District conventions began the process of selecting our 128 pledged delegates based on the results of the January 15 primary, with Senator Clinton receiving 73 pledged delegates and "Uncommitted" receiving 55 pledged delegates. We understand that almost all of the Uncommitted delegates selected to date are in fact pledged to Senator Obama. The Clinton campaign has taken the position that the results of the January 15 primary should be honored and that Senator Clinton should receive 73 pledged delegates in accordance with the vote she received. The Obama campaign has taken the position that the January 15 primary results should be ignored and that the 128 pledged delegates should be seated but evenly divided between the two candidates. Both candidates have a basis for their argument.

The January 15 primary result was flawed because Senator Obama's name was not on the ballot. He took his name off the ballot, interpreting the DNC injunction and the New Hampshire pledge against campaigning in Michigan to require him to take that affirmative step. As a result, we cannot totally agree with the Clinton campaign's position that the outcome of the primary should be honored and that the pledged delegates should be apportioned 73/55 (Clinton/Obama).

At the same time, we also cannot accept the position of the Obama campaign that the primary should be totally ignored and the pledged delegates should be evenly apportioned 64/64 between the two candidates, given the fact that almost 600,000 Democrats voted in the January 15 primary, 55% of whom voted for Senator Clinton and 45% of whom voted for Uncommitted or other candidates.

In recent weeks we contacted both campaign organizations to see if we could negotiate a compromise that would be acceptable to both candidates. While we have not yet been able to achieve that goal, we cannot allow this deadlock to continue with its negative impact on the ability of our nominee to carry Michigan in November, and indeed to win the election.

As a result, we recommend that the Michigan Democratic Party request the DNC to seat Michigan's delegates, and that the pledged delegates be apportioned 69 to Senator Clinton and 59 to Senator Obama. That approach splits the difference between the 73/55 position of the Clinton campaign and the 64/64 position of the Obama campaign, based on our belief that both sides have fair arguments about the Michigan primary. While we expect that neither candidate will explicitly embrace this approach, we believe that the DNC should adopt it and both candidates should accept it because it is fair and because it would resolve an impasse that with each passing day hurts our chances of carrying Michigan and winning the Presidency.

We also believe that the DNC must exercise the leadership to resolve this impasse and not allow it to fester any longer. We urge you to seek the approval of the Executive Committee of the Michigan Democratic Party for this proposal and forward it promptly to the DNC for their consideration.

We also want to express our opposition to the challenge filed by DNC Member Joel Ferguson with the DNC Rules and Bylaws Committee regarding Michigan's delegates to the Democratic National Convention. Mr. Fergusons's proposed remedy -- seating Michigan's so-called super-delegates with a full vote, and seating Michigan's pledged delegates with a half vote -- is unacceptable to us on two grounds. First, we cannot agree to a remedy that allows for super-delegates who didn't run for the position to have a full vote, while pledged delegates selected by the voters have only half a vote. Second, we see no justification for seating Michigan's delegates with anything less than full voting rights.

If Michigan is punished for fighting the DNC's decision to grant New Hampshire a waiver, it will hurt the Party's chances of carrying Michigan in November. We will communicate these views to the Rules and Bylaws Committee and request that you ask the Executive Committee of the Michigan Democratic Party to take a similar position.

Sincerely,

Senator Carl Levin
Representative Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick
UAW President Ron Gettelfinger
DNC Member Debbie Dingell
cc: Governor Jennifer Granholm

 

Comments

"Anarchy is and always has been a romance, it is clearly the best way, and the only morally sensible way to run the world. That everybody should be, the master of their own destiny. Everybody should be their own leader.

This is something that I still believe, I think that even a cursory look around the world at the moment, particularly at the moment, would reveal that it is about .000001% of the worlds population that causes 99.99999% of the worlds problems. And that tiny percentage, it's not the Jewish banking conspiracy, it's not the asylum seekers, it's not the secret homosexual conspiracy running Hollywood, it's not even the Scientologists, it is leaders..."

-Alan Moore

Sent by Jody Sol | 5:39 PM ET | 04-29-2008

I am still puzzled why thy feel that Senator Clinton won, when she put her name on the ballot against what was agreed upon. She is being rewarded for not playing fair. That is not how I have brought up my children, or the type of roll model that I want them to see.

Sent by Wendy | 5:54 PM ET | 04-29-2008

Is this a joke?

You tell the population of Michigan that their voice doesn't count. Michigan decides not to vote. Then you arbitrarily split the vote to favor someone who did not play by the agreed rules (Clinton).

Independent party here I come!

Sent by Amelia | 6:56 PM ET | 04-29-2008

I don't see how michigan calls this an equal compromise. The Obama campaign feels the net delegate difference should be 0, while the Clinton campaign claims the net delegate difference should be 18. Michigan has proposed a solution with a net delegate difference of 10, favoring the Clinton campain however slightly.

Sent by Ryan | 7:06 PM ET | 04-29-2008

She ran on name recognition in Michigan. That's all the results speak to. Talk about cashing in on her husband's name, not her own achievements. How insulting for feminists who support her. How insulting for her. It would be nice if she had any principles.

Sent by Sweetie | 10:08 PM ET | 04-29-2008

This has a surprising similarity to a "Calvin and Hobbes baseball game":) You just make up the rules as you go along (Who has the freeze ray?).

Sent by Rob Martin | 10:37 PM ET | 04-29-2008

Which will prove stronger? the fear of Clinton or the respect of Obama?

Sent by Joe | 11:43 PM ET | 04-29-2008

Is there a contest to see which party can act the most ridiculus? You have the "morally corrupt, scientifically illiterate" republicans vs. the "shoot ourselves in the foot" democrats. It's like a daily contest to see if they can screw things up worse than before. No wonder they can lose to a party that's stuck in the dark ages. If anything Obama should get more delegates since he played by the rules.

That's like a baseball game being postponed because of rain and one team showing up and saying they won. Geez, we'll just compromise and say they won by a little less.

Sent by Greg | 2:26 AM ET | 04-30-2008

The difference for pledged delegates is 10 but what about the supers? HRC has more supers from Michigan that I think were sidelined by this fiasco too. So now out of Michigan will she pick up more supers to close the gap? Anyone know? It baffles me how the DNC messed this up. Too bad there isn't a formidable Independent party, but maybe one is forming in the very near future.

Sent by Carri | 7:17 AM ET | 04-30-2008

Amen to Wendy and Amelia! We people in Michigan don't need to be treated this way, and we certainly do not need Clinton as our role model in any way.

Sent by Grand Rapids, MI | 7:50 AM ET | 04-30-2008

The net delegate difference should be 0. His name was not on the ballot because he followed the DNC rules. Hillary broke the rules, and when challenged by NPR in an interview as to why her name was still on the ballot, she said it didn't matter because the primary would not count. Net 0 delegate difference!

Sent by Sarah | 7:55 AM ET | 04-30-2008

I did not go to the primary vote because I did not want to vote for Hillary and uncommitted means what? a potential vote for Hillary? I would have voted for Barack if I had had the opportunity. Michigan DNC screwed it up, just dropped it.

Sent by Dennis Bierlein | 8:19 AM ET | 04-30-2008

Joe,

How about a more pragmatic question...Which will prove stronger? The experience of Clinton or the judgement of Obama?

Sent by ard | 8:50 AM ET | 04-30-2008

As a Michigan Democrat, I agree that the campaigns should split the difference and get this behind us.

I voted in a flawed primary because I felt that it was my only chance.
I voted for Sen. Clinton because her name was on the ballot. I might have voted for Sen. Obama had his name been there, but couldn't bring myself to vote uncommitted because that felt like giving up my vote to god knows who. Others who may have chosen Edwards could have done the same thing, so all those votes for Sen. Clinton may not have been gotten quite fairly anyway.

Splitting the difference will let us get on to the next step in Michigan. We can no longer afford having the Democratic Party telling Michigan that it doesn't matter. Our state is going through enough at the moment and if you want a positive campaign to develop here in time for November, we better get started.

Don't forget that in 68, George Wallace carried Michigan.

Our leaders need to start helping us away from our dark times into the light!

Sent by Lance | 9:15 AM ET | 04-30-2008

ard, Hillary's experience was forged in a hail of sniper fire. Obama's judgment seems pretty good. He's still beating her in the primary race, so he's shown himself to be a shrewd campaigner and manager of political talent.

Sent by Sweetie | 9:47 AM ET | 04-30-2008

"You tell the population of Michigan that their voice doesn't count. Michigan decides not to vote. Then you arbitrarily split the vote to favor someone who did not play by the agreed rules (Clinton)."

Well, truth be told, I don't think our votes should count at all. It simply wouldn't be fair the way it is now, and the way it played out. This is a Democracy, right? I mean, I voted for Clinton here, but even I realize that it can't look good for her at all to have the delegates from our state. It's basically become a fiasco, and one that Democratic leaders were warned about well in advance.

All we can do at this point is not re-elect the short-sighted Dems that put us into this mess, and face that we've gotta sit this one out. I want Hillary to win, but I don't want her to win by cheating, or by playing dirty political games. If that turns out to be the case, I might just have to sit out this whole election, too.

Sent by Jason - Grand Rapids, Mi | 10:52 AM ET | 04-30-2008

I think the 69/59 split is the least unfair. Obama should push for 65/63, and then 67/62 before settling for 69/59, though, just for a good laugh.

Sent by Trevor | 11:12 AM ET | 04-30-2008

I don't understand how anyone could say that Hillary 'won' MI to even the slightest degree or by a single delegate. Sen. Obama's name was not on the ballot per his adherence to the rules. Thus, Hillary had a competition free event in MI, which she duly noted on record with NPR by saying the MI primary would "not count." No competition = no win = net zero delegate difference. Period.

Sent by Sarah | 6:37 PM ET | 04-30-2008



   
   
   
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