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Pennsylvania Vote Depends on Several Factors

The closer we get to the actual Pennsylvania primary, the more it seems that no one can really predict how the actual voting will go.

For instance, the Boston Globe reports that "later-deciders" could really help Sen. Hillary Clinton.

"If the pattern of previous primaries and caucuses holds, the biggest procrastinators - those who make up their minds on Tuesday - will probably break for Senator Hillary Clinton. If they side with her again in Pennsylvania, it may help Clinton hold off Senator Barack Obama with a big-enough victory to save her candidacy, again."

But Obama has a couple of important factors that could break his way.

Young voters in Pennsylvania could go big for Obama and neutralize the "late-decider." (Witness the spontaneous Obama "parade" through Philadelphia of about 5000 mostly younger Obama supporters after his speech to 35,000 people Friday night.) But as Reuters asks, will they turn out to vote?

"The Center for Information & Research on Civic Learning & Engagement, or CIRCLE, which has tracked youth voting since the U.S. voting age was lowered to 18 in 1972, says this year has seen the highest national registration rate in history among those under 30 ...

"[But] In every presidential election since 1972, turnout by citizens under 30 in Pennsylvania was slightly below the national average for young voters and lagged behind that of older voters. In 2004, 47 percent of young Pennsylvanians, and 68 percent of those over 30, went to the polls, according to CIRCLE."

The most important factor for Obama, however, could be women. The Philadelphia Inquirer reports that "Allegiances are shifting, and affiliations based on gender and race are weakening ...," mostly in favor or Obama.

"In the latest Quinnipiac University poll, released Tuesday, Clinton held steady with Pennsylvania women with 54 percent of the vote, compared with 40 percent for Obama. In a poll two months ago, however, Obama had only 34 percent of the women's vote in Pennsylvania."

"It's not that she's losing supporters, but he's picking up strength, especially among white women," said Clay F. Richards, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.
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UPDATE: One indication of how these difference groups can affect polling results, two new polls how how wide the spread can be depending upon who the pollsters reach.

Earlier today we reported that a Mason-Dixon poll had Clinton ahead by 5%. A new Zogby Daily Tracking Pennsylvania poll shows Clinton ahead by only three points. It has a +/- of 4.1 percent. But a poll by the GOP polling firm Strategic Vision shows Clinton ahead by nine points.

 

Comments

Maybe we're gluttons for punishment thinking we deserve nothing better than a tired soldier or a rehash of the Clinton years. It should be clear by now that the Hannity influence on Stephanopoulos sends a clear message that the GOP cannot win if put up against Obama. They are far more comfortable with Hillary in their sights. Can we possibly risk another four more years of business as usual?

The undecided, women voters, and the future of youth all hold the key to making an unprecedented statement with regards to who can build a better world.

Do right and good luck on Tuesday!

Sent by George | 1:38 PM ET | 04-20-2008

People have to remember that Hillary, strong enough to make it this far, is NOT going to let her husband rule the White House. Nor is she her husband. I think both Clinton and Obama are viable opponents for McCain. Hopefully Democrats will get ahold of their heads after the nominee is announced and show loyalty to their party, no matter who wins. I respect McCain, but I think his policies are too loyal to Bush's party politics.

Clinton for president 2008!

Sent by Sonja | 6:25 PM ET | 04-20-2008

Young folks unite!! Grab your friends and create a massive voter turn out for Obama!

Sent by d | 10:48 PM ET | 04-20-2008

George, as long as we're giving dismissive labels to McCain and Clinton, let's not forget Obama and his endless litany of "change" cliches.

Although I don't think the most recent debate focused on policy issues as much as it should have, at this point in the campaign some undecided Democratic voters such as myself are asking themselves just how well Obama would be able to field the kinds of questions (and/or accusations) that ultra-conservatives would be slinging should he win the nomination. And thanks to this last debate, we now have the answer to that question, which is "not very well at all."

Sent by Jim | 12:28 AM ET | 04-21-2008

The O-bots sure are pretentious.

Oh well all the more entertaining.

Sent by deek | 10:10 AM ET | 04-21-2008

I'd rather hear Obama's stump speech about change than hear Clinton's cackling anyday!

Get "O"ut the vote -- Go for "O"!

Sent by spencer | 11:52 AM ET | 04-21-2008

Jim,
Do not worry. The right wing would soon realize that this is a different campaign. Have you heard of "attacking the attack dogs". Well all the dirt on the Oreilly's, Sean Hannity and other right wing attack dogs like Carl Rove would be on display. In the republican strategy, campaign is not done by the candidate it is atually done by carricatures on talk show radios and 527's and fox news etc, the key people better be clean. And their attacks would become jokes of the day when the comedians are released on them. It would be different and refreshing!!!!!

Sent by Ty | 11:56 AM ET | 04-21-2008

Is is possible that Obama is revealing more of himself than he knows? Certainly, he has SPOKEN and DEMONSTRATED his "CHANGE" message...he worshipped for 20 years under Rev. Wright...but has changed his mind about following such a pulpit leader, spoke in one manner in Pennsylvania and changed his manner in San Francisco, associated with the likes of William Ayers and Farakan but has changed his mind regarding these people as well (does not welcome Farakan endorsement, etc.)...is anyone concerned with the chameleon Obama seems to be...is all this "change" really a promise for good...what has he shown that demonstrates he will prove loyal to his "rhetoric" and not simply "change" his position in the future...the one good thing about that would be that he indeed would prove to be the "Agent of Change"(...would he then be considered a politician, a liar, perhaps)...I already know that Obama supporters would "spin" this into Obama taking the higher road or seeing the need to alter his course, etc...Obama supporters I challenge you to question the negative smear campaigns directed at "other" candidates...as previous bloggers have stated...to exercise more critical thinking, doing so will benefit all the candidates and the ultimate outcome of the Presidential Race...I assume, bottomline, we all care about taking this country in the right direction...let's fundamentally challenge ourselves and question the easy feel good...feel angry...feel indifferent...it's our country, our future. May the right person win in November.

PS: Even if you can find no "good" about candidates McCain and Clinton at least they're so visible in the world of politics that we have something "real" to consider...not so obvious with Obama...it becomes a choice of "known vs. unknown"...

Sent by ard | 3:51 PM ET | 04-21-2008



   
   
   
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