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Hillary Wins PA; Democratic Fight Continues

Hillary Clinton

Hillary Clinton and her husband, former president Bill Clinton, embrace at a celebration on the night of the Pennsylvania primary.

Robyn Beck, AFP/Getty Images

Hillary Clinton scored a much-needed win in Pennsylvania's hotly contested Democratic primary. CNN has more analysis:

"Clinton's 10-point margin of victory was larger than recent polls had shown; all had her winning but some of them showed only 4 or 5 percentage points between the candidates. But because Democratic delegates are allotted proportionally according to the vote, Clinton's Pennsylvania win does little to cut into Obama's lead among pledged delegates or his advantage in the popular vote count."

Did race play a role in Obama's loss? At least one blogger thinks so:

"And the exit polls show, again, that one in four Clinton voters claim they would not vote for Obama in November -- for whatever reason. And she got 70% of the white, blue-collar vote in most regions, including the area of central Pennsylvania where I spent a lot of time growing up and heard many a racist remark.

Here's the money quote from a New York Times analysis of the exit polls: 'Sixteen percent of white voters said race mattered in deciding who they voted for, and just 54 percent of those voters said they would support Mr. Obama in a general election; 27 percent of them said they would vote for Mr. McCain if Mr. Obama was the Democratic nominee, and 16 percent said they would not vote at all.'"

What do you think about the results and what it means for the Democrats heading forward?

Reaction from Our Regular Bloggers:
The Field Negro: The Bill and Hillary Show Continues
Cobb: "It's not over til it's over..."
All About Race: "Barack Obama made it too easy for her ..."
Three Brothers and a Sister: "[Obama] needs to take a long hard look at the numbers ... they point to major deficiencies ..."
Jack and Jill Politics: "Don't believe the MSM lie ..."

Related Links:
Reuters: McCain Content to Let Democrats Keep Fighting
Washington Post: Decisive Win Can't Forestall A Daunting Task
Politico: Why Clinton Won Pennsylvania
New York Times: The Low Road to Victory
Politico: Obama Can't Shake Off Clinton

12:07 PM ET | 04-23-2008 | permalink

 

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I don't think race played a significant role in PA. I'm sure Georgia, Illinois, Minnesota, Missouri, Washington, Maryland, Virginia, Wisconsin, South Carolina, and my home state of Mississippi have their fair share of racists and Obama still won.

Sent by Bill M | 12:50 PM ET | 04-23-2008

Bill M makes a good point, but there are racists, and then there are White Catholic hypocritical racists, a breed of racists onto themselves. I grew up going to Catholic parish in suburban Chicago surrounded by these hypocrites, so I know of what I speak.

Now, I'm not blaming Catholicism for their racism or their hypocrisy. It's not as though their brand of Catholicism has anything to do with following doctrine, save for feigning outrage over sex abuse. No, their Catholicism is a bowling league Catholicism; they're Catholic because they are members of the club, not because they follow any of the rules.

MLK II encountered this kind of hypocrite in his struggles over fair housing in Chicago. He wasn't used to this kind of visceral hatred. He was used to the institutional discrimination of Jim Crow. In Chicago, the institutions didn't discriminate; individuals, in large groups, held Jim Crow in their hearts for more than the South ever did in their governments.

So, Hilary must have a warm happy feeling in her heart knowing that she won Pennsylvania because of her support among White Catholic hypocritical racists. Congratulations. I guess.

Sent by Matthew Scallon | 1:45 PM ET | 04-23-2008

Oh Lord I pray Clinton is our next president. Something just doesn't settle when you say U.S. President Obama. Obama, Osama.........eeek!

Sent by Shellie | 2:24 PM ET | 04-23-2008

Shellie,
To the contrary, that is one of the reasons why Obama should be our next president. We need to prove to the world and ourselves that we are the nation we claim to be. We are not just a nation of white anglo-saxons, tolerating these "others", but only up to a point.

Please grow up. There is no American name. And while Obama himself is not a Muslim, it is part of his heritage. What of it? I hear tell that Islam is the fastest growing religion in the USA. They are a part of the electorate. And making statements like yours reveals a certain bigotry that is very distastful and immature. Please stop it.

Obama embodies what our nation has become. He can and should be embraced by all.

Sent by Miss T | 5:16 PM ET | 04-23-2008

@Shellie, so you don't want Obama b/c of his name? Eek, yourself! File this under troll logic.

Sent by Matthew Scallon | 5:37 PM ET | 04-23-2008

I believe that now the super delegates should join Hillary to make her Democrats' candidate. She should immediately ask Obama to be her VP. If he is sincere in uniting everybody involved, then he should accept this outcome and thus beat the Republican Mc Cain in every front with such a mandate never seen in the history of US.
Regards,

Sent by Halil I. Gerger | 6:10 PM ET | 04-23-2008

If she can't overtake him...which SHE CAN'T, then all that she is doing with her boxing gloves and Rocky references is shadow boxing. She's just swinging at air.

Just do the numbers, folks. Obama can't be overtaken in any category unless he completely self destructs and any thoughts of that ever happening is just wishful thinking. She can't win and that's just the bottom line. This country has the simplest of choices, you can vote for a change (Obama) or you can go with more of the same with McCain. It's just that simple. If you let a person's color get in the way of making a common sense choice then that's on YOU. Whatever happens is going to happen and you'll have no one to blame but YOURSELF.

Sent by Thomas B. | 7:36 PM ET | 04-23-2008

I the general press and NPR would stop referring to Senator Clinton winning by "double digits", or by 10%. She, in fact, did not. In a tightly contested race getting close to the end, even apparently small details acquire out-of-proportion significance. Much has been made in the press of winning the election by double digits or single digits. Stating that Senator Clinton won by 10%, or double digits, is not being courteous to Mrs. Clinton; it represents pseudo objectivity, is unfair to Senator Obama, and is inaccurate. As of 4:17PM today, and over 99% of precincts reporting, Senator Clinton was reported to have received 1,260,208 votes, and Senator Obama 1,045,444 votes, for a total of 2,305,652 votes. That works out to 54.65734% for Senator Clinton, and 45.34266% for Senator Obama. The difference is 9.31%. The mathematically correct results would be 9.31%, or 9%, if decimals are rounded off. This is a single digit win, not double digits. Please be accurate, do not give one side a small, but with significant propaganda value, unattained achievement. Certainly, no athlete in a close race would tolerate inflating the score of a competitor in a close race, and there is no reason for anyone else to take it away. It is as much Senator Obama's achievement to have reduced the gap to 9% as it would have been for Senator Clinton to keep it in double digit range. Do not take away this well-deserved, and accurate, achievement from Senator Obama.

Sent by ArmonDavid | 7:49 PM ET | 04-23-2008

But i thought we all believed in the democratic process. What is so bad about going all the way through to Puerto Rico? So President Elect Obama did not use Street Money to grease the locals...Okay he gave it to ad houses or whatever...
This is a truly once in a lifetime event. All the drama and all...
I'm looking to see how Sen. is going to exit the stage. That is going to be so real high drama. And how is Bubba gonna take it? He probably will just light a cigar with the backroom boys and think about what could have been. But worry not, their daughter looms.

Sent by audiodramatist | 8:33 PM ET | 04-23-2008

Even NPR cant do math!!! I am amazed. Do the math the correct way. Subtract the percentages first and then round it is a 9 point victory (9.3 rounds to 9). You can find the difference of the actual vote and divide by the total and you will get the same 9.3%. We badger the public schools all the time for the job they do - yet the media, even NPR can't do the math!

Sent by Larry cerniglia | 10:26 PM ET | 04-23-2008

Why is the media forgetting that Republicans are a tightly woven force and they are registering and voting in the Democratic primaries FOR Hillary to ensure that she is the winner of the nomination so she can lose to McCain because that is what they believe ...however faulty this stratgey is ....It is what happened in my home state of Texas and Pennsylvania yet Obama prevailed in delegates in Texas & elsewhere anyway ...why is the Black media sources, who are the true purveyors of Black thoughts and actions, ignoring this fact ..it took Diane Rehms to showcase these facts .....what do the African -American bloggers think?

Sent by Terry Alen | 10:40 PM ET | 04-23-2008

Hillary has lost the nomination. It's doesn't matter how you feel about Senator Clinton, she has lost. She cannot catch up in delegates, popular votes nor can she take over simply by saying she says so. It's over. She was declared the winner in Pennsylvania before all the precints has reported. No more debates because mathematically she cannot win. That's it! The party is over. This is NOT a popularity contest PERIOD. So If I were Senator Clinton she should tell her campaign and supporters to back off and she herself should stop the delusion that Obama will do SOMETHING to cause the wheels to fall off the wagon. There aren't and since the number of pledged delegates and popular votes is what we use to determine most elections (this one is no exception) then....well....as we say in court "What say you?"

Sent by Lisa | 12:35 AM ET | 04-24-2008

After following the rules by the Democratic Party, Obama is on the brink of winning the most pledge delegates. For the Party to take this nomination away from him will reflect the sentiment and doubts African American have in the back of head: "No matter how hard we try to get ahead in life and no matter how much we follow the rules there will be someone there to take it away from you".

The most loyal block of the Democratic Party, African Americans, will stay home or even worst vote Republican- if the Republican were able to build up enough outrage about the fairness of not nominating Barack Obama. This is unlikely because of John McCain voting record- Martin Luther King Day. McCain has now started courting African American for good reasons. On abortion, gay marriage, and religion African Americans are align with the Republican; hence, it would be that difficult for African Americans to switch party but this will only happen if and only if the Republican can show and prove they care about minorities. Democrats must choose Obama has their nominee in order to minimize African American backlash which would last over 40 years.

Hilary Clinton has knock Obama down from his pedestal and only leave him with only one decision: He must choose her as his vice president or another female with strong national security experience. Obama can win the Presidency if Hilary is the vise president.

The ramifications for awarding the nomination to Hilary Clinton is too big of a price to pay for a family who was once consider the darling of the party.

Sent by Ty | 11:38 AM ET | 04-24-2008

Shellie you are a terrible person. Your comment is so very offensive. You are a great example of why this country has such a great divide amongst individuals. What a comment to make, really. No matter who you support give a intelligent backing as to why not just some cheap jab at are Muslim brothers and sisters.

Sent by Essence | 3:49 PM ET | 04-24-2008

Why doesn't anyone mention Cynthia McKinney?

Sent by Addis | 5:26 PM ET | 04-24-2008

Okay....Cynthia McKinney.

Everybody happy???

Sent by Thomas B | 7:40 PM ET | 04-24-2008

Stop the drama...Vote for Obama.

Everybody's had their fun. The Clinton stranglehold on the Democratic Party as been broken for good. Now it's time to get to the Main Event, Obama vs McCain. 15 rounds, 10 point must system, no saving at the bell or standing eight counts, sanctioning by the people of the United States of America. Shake hands, come out fighting, and let the best man (Obama) win.

Sent by Thomas B | 9:56 PM ET | 04-24-2008

Oh Lord I pray that Obama is our next president. Something just doesn't settle when you say U.S. Madame President Clinton to a wife who's husband has cheated often. And who has that hard apple cheeked scary smile of anger Madame President .........eeek! Arggh! OMG!

Sent by Taliba | 4:37 AM ET | 04-25-2008

It is truly amazing that every article turns out to be a slugfest between the candidate supporters. It doesn't matter by how much she won by. This is America and part of the rights bestowed upon us by those good ole forefathers is the right to fight to the finish in this campaign...whether you support one or the other. Obama supporters are the quickest people to judge others and put them down stating Clinton supporters are dumb, uneducated, etc... You preach a happy world of togetherness and oneness, but as it is in everyday life... that is not the case. I was a Obama supporter; however, I have since changed my support to Hillary due to past events. I don't like a candidate who only preaches to the public with the same ole rhetoric and not any substance. The defining moment of Obama's end in my opinion was when he stated that the Reverend Wright was his spiritual "advisor". Blacks can defend Wright's comments all they want saying that they were taken out of context and only portrayed a small portion of the actual sermon(-s); however, there is no mistaking what he said no matter how he worked them into a sermon. His comments were blatantly racist and un-American and I will never pass my vote to a man who utilizes a man filled with that much hatred as his "counselor". Ironically enough, if something like this was said by a white man or a man of any other skin color... they would have been destroyed by the media hounds on such issues (^cough^.. Jessie Jackson , etc... ^cough^). I am by no means uneducated. I have a PhD and 3 Masters so try and use the uneducated rationale to belittle me. The petty panderings of Obama supporters shows exactly how much trouble this country is in now and in the future. If you think he can beat McCain... you guys and gals are sorely mistaken. Even though I don't agree with most of what McCain believes in... I know what he believes in. I will not so easily give my vote to a man (Obama) who I can't trust or ascertain his true motives. So if Obama is elected as the nominee in the end... hooray for you guys. When he loses in November, you have no one to blame but yourselves. I can afford to live through the McCain years... can you?

Sent by Douglas | 5:04 AM ET | 04-26-2008

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