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Thursday Morning: Tomorrow's Debate Remains Uncertain; Palin on Couric; and Biden Hits McCain on Iraq

Good morning!

Well, it's one day before the first scheduled presidential debate, and the candidates are spending it similarly -- first at the Clinton Global Initiative meeting in New York this morning, then in a meeting about the bailout package -- sorry, structured rescue plan -- with President Bush and congressional leaders this afternoon.

But the candidates' mirrored schedules belie this week's political tension. After gratuitously pious grandstanding from both candidates yesterday on how best to respond to the crisis, tomorrow night's debate in Oxford, Mississippi is still up in the air. Obama has said he'll attend with or without his opponent, but McCain says he'll only debate tomorrow if negotiators have settled on an economic package. And bloggers and op-ed writers are taking to this story like pigs in, um, mud. If you're looking to vomit before noon, we suggest taking a sip of milk every time you read the word "gamble" as a description of McCain's call-to-arms yesterday. But start with the WP's ever-wise Dan Balz:

The standoff over the debate left both candidates in potentially awkward positions, although there is plenty of time for it to be resolved. McCain may be reluctant to climb down from his insistence that the debate be delayed until there is an agreement on a package, but he could be seen as scuttling an important event for voters eager to see the two candidates side by side. Obama, on the other hand, may look high-handed if he insists on going ahead as negotiations in Washington reach a critical moment by this weekend.
At a minimum, voters were treated again to contrasting styles of leadership Wednesday, with McCain willing to act boldly, if impulsively, to inject himself into the middle of delicate negotiations to force a solution, and Obama adopting a cooler approach designed to show calm in the midst of crisis while preferring to give long-distance encouragement to all parties in the talks.

McCain's surrogates are reportedly floating an alternate scenario: that the first Presidential debate replace next week's scheduled VP debate in St. Louis, and the VP candidates debate in Oxford at some later date.

Elsewhere, last night GOP VP nominee Sarah Palin made her third interview appearance, on CBS's evening news with Katie Couric. (According to the Obama campaign, notoriously chatty Democrat Joe Biden has been interviewed 89 times since his veep selection a week prior to Palin's, but who's counting?). Palin took Couric's bait about the possibility of an impending Great Depression -- a characterization McCain managed to dodge in his own Couric interview last night.

Couric: If this doesn't pass, do you think there's a risk of another Great Depression?


Palin: Unfortunately, that is the road that America may find itself on. Not necessarily this, as it's been proposed, has to pass or we're going to find ourselves in another Great Depression. But, there has got to be action - bipartisan effort - Congress not pointing fingers at one another but finding the solution to this, taking action, and being serious about the reforms on Wall Street that are needed.

But Palin came up short when pressed by the anchor about McCain's legislative history on regulation.

Couric: But he's been in Congress for 26 years. He's been chairman of the powerful Commerce Committee. And he has almost always sided with less regulation, not more.


Palin: He's also known as the maverick though, taking shots from his own party, and certainly taking shots from the other party. Trying to get people to understand what he's been talking about - the need to reform government.

(snip)

Couric: I'm just going to ask you one more time - not to belabor the point. Specific examples in his 26 years of pushing for more regulation.

Palin: I'll try to find you some and I'll bring them to you.

And finally, Joe Biden stuck with foreign policy yesterday, though he was overshadowed by economic news and also by the fact that no one is really paying attention to him these days. The Democratic VP nominee spoke for 42 minutes in Cincinnati, hammering John McCain for having tunnel vision on Iraq and ignoring the fight against al-Qaeda. The Cincinnati Enquirer points out that Biden spoke in the same venue where President Bush laid out the rationale for invading Iraq.

-- Evie Stone

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Calling off the debate is just another ploy by McCain to try to grab some attention, and at the same time avoid exposing his weaknesses. It is strange that someone who missed 65% of Senate votes has suddenly found such religion on the need to be present in Washington. The debates must go ahead, so that we can see exactly what the Presidential and Vice Presidential candidates would do to handle this crisis. After all, the President in office does not get a time out when complex issues crop up.

Sent by William Clark | 11:14 AM ET | 09-25-2008

As far as I understand, when the President is not able to fulfill his Presidential duties permanently or temporarily for whatever reason, the Vice President takes his place. So if Republican Presidential Candidate John McCain decides to step down from his campaign for President, even if just for a few days, it seems to me that the Republican Vice Presidential Candidate should take his place in the campaign. So Sarah Palin should step up to the plate and debate foreign policy (or whatever issue is at hand) with Obama on Friday and show the American people how ready to be Vice President she is... or isn't.

Sent by Carlos (from Phoenix) | 11:25 AM ET | 09-25-2008

the debate should go forward no matter what. This is just another ploy by the McCain Campaign to distract people from real problems. Everyone seems to say that the last two people you want at these negotiations are the most politicized people right now-Obama and McCain.

Sent by palcah | 11:27 AM ET | 09-25-2008

I have over 26 years of military service and dearly love this country.
I have a certain amount of respect for John McCain because he served his country in a honorable fashion. However, his selection of Sarah Palin is an act of treason. His selection of such an incompetent individual proves to me that his only concern is winning this election. I don't think he cares one bit about the well-being of this country. He is an old man with old ideas. She is a young woman with no ideas at all. Americans still supporting Palin/McCain are certainly voting in terms of race. There can be no other reason. I am a white republican by the way.

Sent by T. Patriot | 11:34 AM ET | 09-25-2008

Why doesn't Palin attend the debate on behalf of McCain? Isn't that what a Vice President should do we the commander in charge is not available?

Sent by Jim Savlen | 11:39 AM ET | 09-25-2008

I understand the financial crisis needs to be dealt with but how do you suspend your presidential run. Just say, I am going to Washington to work on this matter with the president and congress and my running mate Gov. Palin will still continue to travel per my scheduled speaking engagements as I attend to duties in Washington. BUT I guess McCain doesnt trust his running mate or she was selected as a pansy to pull in the conservative vote and only that. He doesnt trust her to travel alone I see. Both of they are stuck to the hip so that he keeps her close and he likes that because she pulls in more crowds than he does. Go figure. I think with private gets nowadays, McCain can be in Washington, fly out to Mississippi and be back in Washington again late Friday or Saturday morning to discuss whatever is going on in Congress. I think this is a wag the dog type of situation. He is being beat on the economy so McCain is taking his normal maverick stance.
The debate should be on. Its too late in the game to not have the American people hear what the candidates have to say. Most states will be voting soon if this debate is postpones.

Sent by EK | 11:55 AM ET | 09-25-2008

Point 1 - I do not understand how this whole debate thing is awkward for Obama. He is showing a cool head in this whole crisis and reminding the American people that a good leader can't just suspend everything else that is going on in the country just because one thing is demanding a lot of his/her attention. McCain is acting like the sky is falling and he's ready to hit the panic button.

Point 2 - I want to see the clip of Katie Couric when she calls Sarah Palin up in a few days and says, "Thought of anything yet?"

Point 3 - I think it's great that Biden is not letting Americans forget what a foreign policy distaster we will STILL have on our hands after this whole economic mess is resolved. Yeah, I definitely care about protecting my life savings and my job, but I also want to elect someone who isn't going to send my husband back to Iraq for a third 1+ year tour of duty to fight a war that has not done one bit of good for this country.

Sent by SRB | 11:56 AM ET | 09-25-2008

Oh yeah!

Point 4 - Rachel Maddow had an extensive list on her show last night of debates that took place in the midst of various crises, including the Bush-Gore debate in 2000, which took place days after the USS Cole was attacked.

Let the debate begin, I already bought the snacks I am serving to my watch party guests.

Sent by SRB | 12:04 PM ET | 09-25-2008

When all of this is over, John McCain will still have his eight houses and thirteen cars, his buddies and contributors on Wall Street, whom he has assured will continue to skate with Bush tax cut extensions, will get fatter and richer, and we will be left holding the bag. I hope people wake up this time!

Sent by John Schaefer | 12:33 PM ET | 09-25-2008

Of course they should go ahead with the Presidential debate as scheduled last November - but if they cannot, THEY SHOULD JUST MOVE UP THE VP DEBATE TO THIS FRIDAY!

Sent by Anna | 12:55 PM ET | 09-25-2008

I am glad to see that so many commentors on this blog can see through McCain's latest rant. It seems like an obvious political stunt. If not to put off the debate for himself but to put off the vp debate-Palin is obviously not ready for any of this-she has memorized responses for certain questions and oddly repeats the same words in different ways-it is really scaring the hell out of me!!-I feel powerless! i just hope that teh powers that be dont allow mccain to call the shots.

Sent by jen | 1:11 PM ET | 09-25-2008

Wow! Talk about nothing left once the celebrity wears off...Palin's ignorance is undeniable and doesn't seem to be as celebrated as it was at the RNC.

No doubt Bidden will eat her lunch at the VP debates - I almost feel sorry for her.

McCain is stalling - Obama is proving, over and over, that he can handle tough issues. He won't back down, but he hasn't had to stoop to snide comparisons, and hateful speeches.

T. Patriot made my day - you hit the nail on the head, really enjoyed reading your comment.

Sent by Amy McCoy | 1:21 PM ET | 09-25-2008

If McCain can't handle two things at once, he certainly can't handle being president.

Sent by Brian | 1:23 PM ET | 09-25-2008

This just goes to show that the McCain-Palin campaign are terrified of Palin debating Biden. Otherwise they would not be suggesting the vice-presidential debate as an alternative to the first presidential one. And they could do as others have suggested and switched the first presidential and the vice-presidential debates.

Sent by A. Pipas | 1:24 PM ET | 09-25-2008

John Schaefer...and Obama will still be making over a million a year ($4 million last year) and his girls will still be attending the Chicago Laboratory School (over 20K per year). And his 3 and counting former Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac friends who he will appoint to some cabinet positions (if he wins the election).

Sent by Mike Cloghessy | 1:25 PM ET | 09-25-2008

Sarah Palin reminds me of the little monkey that holds the tin cup while the Corner Barker (McCain) plays his squeezebox and begs for money.
Sarah is the cute prop but definetly unable to go it alone if needed.

Sent by Brent Rollens | 2:07 PM ET | 09-25-2008

If congress can not do without Obama and McCain for a couple of hours we are in bigger trouble than reported..Come on John McCain, get real..your the maverick, so hows about showing up at the corral.
You and Palin can both be hide at the same time... What will the voters think?

Sent by larry | 2:18 PM ET | 09-25-2008

McCain is a good soldier and in the trenches is where he belongs. So, yes, I do believe it's a good idea for him to go and try to help the process and stay there. Obama must continue with his campaign to ensure Americans that he will be a good leader. McCain is a good soldier; Obama, a good leader.

Sent by JM | 2:23 PM ET | 09-25-2008

McCain is a good soldier; Obama, a good leader.

Sent by JM | 2:26 PM ET | 09-25-2008

JM...Obama must be a good leader...he has ALL that experience as a neighborhood organizer working with Ayers...giving grant money to friends who take the money and run. Sounds like an effective leader to me.

Sent by Mike Cloghessy | 2:55 PM ET | 09-25-2008

i just wanted to give a shout out to Kaitie Couric. she gave a good interview, a tough interview. if only Charlie Gibson had ponied up fearlessly like KC, thing whole Palin debacle would have sunk McCain's campaign sooner than it is sinking now.

I understand more of the interview will be aired tonight on the CBS News. Good job, Kaite!

Sent by michael beck | 3:44 PM ET | 09-25-2008

Leaders don't run away to Washington or hide behind a mother who shoots moose out of helicopters.
Let the debate begin!

Sent by Melissa G. | 4:05 PM ET | 09-25-2008

If McCain is a no-show to this debate, this election is pretty much over. The American people are not going to stand by while congress hands out $7 Billion of the taxpayer's money while John McCain dodges answering for it.

Sent by Father Doneau Probst | 5:03 PM ET | 09-25-2008

I find it truly astonishing that McCain/Palin will likely still get a large conservative vote despite all the above mentioned reasons they are not up to the task. Many of those voters will only see her pro-life stance and ignore everything else. I wish they could understand that being pro-life does not necessarily make one qualified to be vice-president. And they certainly don't either know or don't care that she and her husband are in contempt of of court for refusing to testify despite being served subpoenas in the question of her abuse of power issue in Alaska.

Sent by Beth | 1:30 AM ET | 09-26-2008

Can you even begin to imagine what a debate between Barack Obama and Sarah Palin would be like? He would eat her alive! The brightest bulb in the closet and the dimmest. No contest.

Sent by C.R. West | 6:49 PM ET | 09-26-2008



   
   
   
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