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Sen. Ted Kennedy addresses the DNC.

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I can't even imagine what this week in Denver is like for our Political Junkie, Ken Rudin. Well, it's probably pretty exhausting living on a hybrid of Eastern and Central times (late to bed and early to rise), but wow, what a week it's already been. Highlights? Sen. Ted Kennedy's emotional return to the fold in the midst of his fight with cancer; Michelle Obama's speech, in which she worked to undo the damage done by her oft-misquoted assertion that "for the first time in my adult lifetime, I am really proud of my country;" and, of course, Sen. Hillary Clinton's speech in support of hers and Obama's common cause. And, of course, the week hasn't been all grandstanding, there have been some political ads too, namely the Obama campaign's "Seven Houses," the McCain campaign's "Hillary's Right," and the swiftboat-esque attack on Obama for his relationship with Weather Underground founder William Ayers (quickly — and quietly — refuted by the Obama camp). All that, Ken Rudin, and trivia and some tape from the vault! What's your favorite moment so far? Leave them below.

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I'm a Democrat and big time Barack Obama supporter, but I'm also from Ohio, and I think I have a sense of how this convention will play in Cleveland-- It's a PR disaster.

Why are there all those empty seats? Why do the delegates look so bored with most the speakers? Didn't anyone tell the delegates that people are judging the party by the actions of the delegates on the floor?

I agree with not having pre-printed signs; it distinguishes us from the Republicans, but the downside is, when you combine it with the empty seats and the bored people, that it looks like a bunch of amateurs want to run the country. That's not reassuring! I'm worried for the party. Very worried.

Sent by Sal | 2:45 PM | 8-27-2008

So much of this discussion about whether the result of the primaries was good for women or not or good for feminism or not focuses on gender based on genitals. What about the bigger picture of masculine versus feminine? In my mind, although Hilary was a woman, she represented the old guard, masculine style of politics, while Barack represents a new paradigm, a much more feminine way of dealing with the world. This distinction seems to me to be lost in the discussion when we get caught up in focusing on whether a person has male or female genitals and not whether they shift the entire paradigm. P.S. I am a woman and I have been a Barack supporter since day 1.

Sent by Lara Gardner | 3:08 PM | 8-27-2008

When you talk about thing's the world is not ready for, people frown. Why? Because people think you are talking about them. That's not so. We as human being have gotten away from treating one another with love and respect. The unspoken gives you an insight look at what I am talking about. CNN had a presentation on Blacks in America, was in real? Yes it was. Did they go deep inside the ghetto's? I don't think so. People living in the black communties live worst than what they shown on cnn. The unspoken unveil the true ghetto's of today. Get this, no jobs, run down homes and apartments, run down schools, over crowded schools, drugs, gangs, killings and the list goes on. Again the unspoken will lift your eye so you can see the real ghetto. The whole United States is talking about the young blacks. To many are in jail, not taking care of their children, droping out of school, don't want to work and the list goes on. Well i have a different out look on the situation. People talk about things to make themself look good thats why I publish the book The Unspoken(What The World Don't Talk About). There are things in this book know one wants to talk about. The Unspoken (What The World Don't Talk About) will give you the tools to jump right in when the subject about blacks come up. When i say you will know something other people don't know, thats what i mean. There are people out there that don't know whats really going on in the black communties. Don't deprive yourself from this knowledge.

Sent by john l brown | 3:20 PM | 8-27-2008

The idea that HRC was treated unfairly doesn't hold water IMO. She gave as good as she got in the campaign, I distinctly felt she is the one that went negative first.

#1 As far as not being happy about their choice not winning, well what if the tables were turned? How would they like it if Obama's supporters were stamping their feet and having hissy fits about their candidate not winning?

#2 The idea that she could have won the nomination had me scared. Do they actually think she would have won the election? If she had been the nominee, the Republicans would have danced right into the WH again!

Are they so out of touch as to not see how divisive she is? Just look what they are doing to their own party? Maybe her supporters do like her, but they are blind to the absolute hatred that she garners from the other party and even within her party. The behavior of these sore losers isn't helping her career one bit.

If the election is lost, the blame will be pointed directly at her and her inability to reign in her crowd. Not only can she then forget 2012, she will probably lose her senate seat as well due to the bad taste she will leave in everyone's mouth.

Sent by Lois Waldron | 3:30 PM | 8-27-2008

Let's not forget that Hillary was not a pleasant person during this campaign. She basically acted like an ass.

Sent by Patrick | 3:31 PM | 8-27-2008

A take on Hilary supporters problems letting go: Look back at Carol Gilligan's groundbreaking book In a Different Voice where she examines the differences between male and female morality. And there are differences. Men are more rule bound. Women are more relationship bound. Examples: 3 strikes and you're out versus we really like Hillary, she's had a hard day so let's give her another turn at jump rope or jack's. In the stopper for researcher's of old: when confronted with the fact the wife would die because you could not afford the pill that would save her life and the pharmacist wouldn't give it to you, the boys accepted her death whereas the girls wanted the husband to steal the pill. For years this made girls 'morally inferior'. Any approach has positive and negative aspects. The holding on, not wanting to recognize its over, hoping to get over the top no matter what, loyalty over facts, is in certain contexts a less attractive aspect of female politics.

Sent by Kate Berman | 3:36 PM | 8-27-2008

I am a month older than Hillary Clinton, so I am definitely of her generation. I am a lifetime Democrat, Denver native and Obama supporter. I have never supported Hillary for president, although I think she did a wonderful job in her speech last night. She did what she needed to do for the party, and for that I am happy. As far as being a feminist, or a model for young woman, I question her willingness to tag along on Bill's shirt tails. I believe she allowed herself to be humiliated both privately and in public in order to stay with this man, not trusting her own qualifications to be a candidate and force in politics. She may have run a tough campaign, but she is still known as one of the Clintons. I lost all respect for her because of this.

Sent by Mary Oliver | 3:42 PM | 8-27-2008

How can one believe in all this talk of 'change',(or 'hope') when Mr. Nader most likely won't be allowed to join the debate? Mr. Obama is only feeding us fairy-tales, that this campaign is all about change. Unless to prove he is sincere on the subject of change, he offers us a fair debate. Do you think NPR would ever ask if they could hold a three way debate? Mr McCain should have more to fear than Obama. No, I'll keep my cynicism, because it has yet to disappoint me.

Sent by S.Kantor | 4:22 PM | 8-27-2008

Last night, while listening to the US Senate women speak, my optimism was reignited, and my animosity towards Barack Obama dissolved.

While my caution and cynicism, remains intact, I realized that there is nothing wrong with feeling good about participatory government. I don't know Obama, but I do know that I am a Democrat, and I can get on board.

I can put my hurt feelings and issues I have towards the process/players aside to get a Democrat elected.

Sent by Frederic C | 4:57 PM | 8-27-2008

I hate to sound paranoid, but given the well-documented history of Republican dirty tricks, I have to wonder how many of these supposed disgruntled Hillary supporters are actually Republican operatives. I have no doubt that many of Hillary's supporters (including my sister) are frustrated and bitter, but the Republicans clearly have an interest in stirring the pot, and I suspect that some of the folks protesting outside the convention (as opposed to the delegates) were never really Clinton supporters in the first place.

Sent by janet | 6:31 PM | 8-27-2008

I tried to call in because it came to mind that there is a big issue coming up with all the undecideds, for various reasons, like myself. I speak of this here because I have not seen it anywhere else. As election time draws near we often and even much earlier feel we must choose from the evil of two lessors (didn't Ken say that on an earlier show of his ... that he didn't like anyone?).

It seems ultimately important, at least when I analyze the situation, that the running mate for the Republicans may be a great factor. Since McCain vows to run only one term and we may not want to commit to anyone longer than that by putting in a 'stronger' and younger candidate wouldn't it make some sense to consider McCain even if ideologically and rhetorically let alone politically we may not really be for him?

The test would be his running mate who might be in a very strong position to run in only 4 years. We could put up with all that if we liked his choice who could somehow even be a Dem (Lieberman ...). To me (and others?) this seems to be a very important decision on all our parts including McCain if he/we were to have the vision and foresight. That might offer us more viable choices after only one term than we seem to have now.

It seems ultimately important at least when I analyse the situation that the running mate for teh Republicans may be a great factor. Since McCain vows to run only one term and we may not want to commit to anyone longer than that by putting in a 'stronger' and younger candidate wouldn't it make some sense to consider McCain even if ideologically and rhetorically let alone politically we may not really be for him?

The test would be his running mate who migh tbe in a very strong position to run in only 4 years. We could put up with all that if we liked his choice who could somehow even be a Dem (Lieberman ...). To me (and others?) this seems to be a very important decision on all our parts including McCain if he/we were to have the vision and foresight.

Sent by John M | 7:20 PM | 8-27-2008

I have always been democrat but this time I am forced to vote for McCain becuase you have less of two evils especially in this critical time when experience counts a most to get our country out for this recession and big deficit. Can you give a rope to 10-15 yrs old to run a fortune 500 company who is doldrum or will you resort to more experience 50 yrs old CEO. Everybody should think that before deciding whom to cast vote for. I was impressed by Hillary speech yesterday. If she was the nominee and I my friends must have voted for her as she all the experience what we need to take this country to next level

Sent by anup katri | 7:26 PM | 8-27-2008

In 2004 when Bush won by less then 1% his supporters said,"get over it". Others said, "you lost now move on". I was offended and frustrated but not nearly as frustrated as hearing the same petty attitude from my fellow democrats. Bush's failed presidency is testament to the short sightedness of, "governing by 51%" and that is the attitude I get from the Obama camp. It is condescending and, frankly, rude. I finally understand what republicans mean when they say that democrats are elitist. The Obama campaign and the Obama supporters clearly act like they don't need my vote. Senator Obama and his campaign has until November to get over it, grow up, and convince me that he is better than his supporters.

Sent by J. Kepler | 1:58 AM | 8-28-2008

Let us think about this:
Yesterday I was chatting with the sweetest, gentlest woman in China and asked her what she thought about our government and conventions. She said "Bush is an idiot donkey." What about Barack Obama? Her reply, "Isn't he the man who wants more war?" I said "No, that is John McCain, Obama wants to stop the war." She replied, "Oh, then that is the man who rides the donkey."

It begins to make one see that others in the world have interesting views of America. One would say, if she was 6 y/o, 'out of the mouths of babes', but she is a 37 y/o elementary school teacher.

Sent by Captain Tim Paegelow | 5:00 PM | 8-29-2008