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Dirty Politics or Smart Tactics?

In Columbia, S.C. ...

Loyalty. Integrity. Honesty. Character. Racial Solidarity. Toughness.

Those were all the issues being debated here as the presidential campaign swept through S.C. We arrived just in time for the voting on the GOP side. We got a chance to talk with a few voters and operatives about how their campaigns progressed. And we read the coverage, which was fascinating, especially the question of how past campaign tactics may have played into this year's campaign (for those who don't remember, Republican presidential hopeful John McCain was the target of what many now consider a dirty tricks campaign in 2000. Similar tactics surfaced this time, but it didn't work). But the turnout was down among Republican voters here -- off by some 200,000. What did that mean? Was it the nasty weather -- because it was wet and COLD -- or the nasty tone?

That was a question that will probably be asked this weekend as the Democrats head to the polls Saturday.

Last night's CNN debate (co-sponsored by the Congressional Black Caucus) was really notable for the sharpness of the attacks between Obama and Clinton. Now, as everybody knows, politics ain't bean bag. And at every point, in just about every hard-fought, close campaign there is a time when people start to get down with it. But you could hear the gasps in the audience when those two went at it. How does that play? Is it the veteran going after the young'un to see what he's made of? ... The "white woman" going after the "black guy?" ... All the while with John Edwards not seeming very happy at being "the white guy" but clearly reaching for role of statesman above the fray?

My Blackberry started burning up -- What are they doing? This is terrible! Nobody wants to hear this!

Well now, that depends. Clearly, negative campaigning continues because it "works." The point is to get the most votes, not to win Miss or Mr. Congeniality. But the tactic carries risks. Do you turn off more people than you attract? Do you turn on the right people, turn off the right ones?

I cannot wait to hear what the voters are saying about all this. I think we all have to be honest -- how we react to all this depends so much on who we are, what we care about, how our loyalties and sensitivities shake out. And politics at this level is a matter of strategic guessing about all that...

A case in point, we had a fascinating conversation this morning with two women whose names you will have heard but often in connection with their more famous husbands: Jacqueline Jackson and Rev. Marcia Dyson. Mrs. Jackson is married to ... you got it ... Rev. Jesse Jackson. She is also the mother of Congressman Jackson, both of whom are supporting Barack Obama. Now, Marcia Dyson is married to the Rev. Michael Eric Dyson. He is also supporting Barack Obama.

But, the wives made a different decision. I gotta tell you, we are hearing interesting reaction to all this. One woman we spoke to said she thought it disloyal and demonstrated an unwholesome lack of unity within a black family. But others say, why shouldn't women -- black or otherwise -- support whomever they feel is in the best interest of themselves, their families and their communities?

I think this is a conversation to which we should return. I am interested, for example, in how the ethnic caucuses are shaping up. We know that the Congressional Black Caucus is divided. Is it gender? We know that Latino voters in one state where they have big numbers so far (Nevada) have leaned heavily towards Clinton. But, the leadership of that union has gone to Obama? Is the leadership going in a different direction than the grass roots?

As you can see, I leave here filled with questions.

As we head back to D.C., we'll try to find some answers.

 

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It is momentous that we finally have both a female and a minority dominating the news and presidential campaign; both with a great chance to becoming the next president. One candidate espouses experience and the other calls for change. Watching the debate in South Carolina, I could not help but find it ironic that it was John Edwards, not Hillary or Obama, that demonstrated both experience and the ability to bring change all while presenting policies that would benefit both women and minorities. The dilemma is this: There is an unintended message that would be sent by voting for the white male, even though his policies would be better for America than the policies of the other candidates. It is obvious that this election is not about experience, change, or policy; but rather about whether gender or ethnicity is more important. I want to vote for the best policy, but I do not want to send the message that women and minorities cannot be president. I am still unsure about how to use my vote.

Sent by Artie | 9:58 AM ET | 01-23-2008

Dirty politics or smart tactics? Depending on who you ask, aren't they one and the same? To most politicians, the end justifies the means. A President's name that has surfaced during this campaign, LBJ was infamous for his tactics during his hotly contested Senate win in 1948.

Like millions of folks, I watched the Clinton-Obama sparring. Gee . . . Happy MLK day! Though it was cringe worthy to me at times, there was another side of me that knew it had to be done. . .

Also, I found the conversation with Jacqueline Jackson and Rev. Marcia Dyson fascinating. It reminded me of the phone conversation with my Aunt just this past Saturday morning who heard my commentary on the radio of not letting gender or race affect my decision. " . . . Are you telling me you're not voting for Obama?" She asked. "I didn't say that." I replied, wondering why in the world am I having a conversation about politics before breakfast. "You didn't have to say it, I know you Moji . . .wait till I tell (a Matriarch of the family) that this girl has an opportunity to vote for the first viable African-American President and she's not taking it." You gotta love family.

Sent by Moji | 10:23 AM ET | 01-23-2008

I agree with you that it depends on the person, because I enjoyed the back and forth of the candidates. I think its best that they be open and honest. I wanted to see Mr. Obama under pressure. It's good practice for him, for November. And I'm sorry, I totally disagree with the premise for having the wives on. For the first time in the year or so I've listened to your show I just couldn't keep listening. They are wonderful human beings and god bless'em, but to think that all it takes is a white woman to fix america's problem with how it treats its women is like that slave that ran in the house and "shouted, master theys'a plotting to run". Sorry if thats a bad comparison but its eerily similar to me. Happy New Year to ya!!

Sent by darren adkins | 12:59 PM ET | 01-23-2008

As I listened to the interviews of Mrs Jackson and Rev. Dyson, I was struck by the fact that enlightened self interest is, for some, replacing racial solidarity as criteria for whom to vote. With respect to the Black vote, this is indicative of a maturation of thought. The theme of change has been run into the ground but the differing opinions as to which candidate can best achieve real and beneficial change is the key to which candidate a voter supports, as it should be. There are some subliminal messages suggesting that one should vote for a candidate because of his or her race or gender but from the discussions I have heard, the voters are more likely to vote for that candidate whose message promises a bettering of their condition

Sent by Carl J. Foster MD | 1:16 PM ET | 01-23-2008

TMM team, have you seen this article by Dick Morris?

"How Clinton Will Win The Nomination by Losing South Carolina A Commentary" By Dick Morris
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/political_commentary/commentary_by_dick_morris/how_clinton_will_win_the_nomination_by_losing_south_carolina

I'd love to hear a discussion about this angle on race politics in South Carolina.

Sent by Stanley | 1:59 PM ET | 01-23-2008

I used to think that candidates for a Party nomination should NEVER say bad things about other members of their Party, because those comments could be used by the opposing party in the later election. Particularly these days when it is so easy for TV and radio clips to be made of their comments. But what Sen. Clinton said the other day about Sen. Obama not having been "vetted," gave me pause. Is it better to bring up all the negatives in the primary process or have them raised after the Party's nominee has been selected? If "Swift Boars" had been fully aired during the 2004 primary process, perhaps John Kerry would have learned how best to deal with the mud slinging, or a different nominee could have resulted and Bush defeated. Maybe a test of fire is needed during the Primaries to temper the eventual nominee.

Sent by B.T. Mendelsohn | 4:05 PM ET | 01-23-2008

It is disheartening to see (even NPR) that so many people are saying that Hilliary was the one that attacked Barack when it was he who started the attacks and not even answering his question in the process. I am a black man and have all the pride in the world for Barack but even blacks have a sense of fairness and we saw Barack attack first. So dont give the impression that he was not sainted candidate while she was the evil one. Stop protecting him and give him a chance to show himself off. He needs to be able to deal with the pressures of campaign because if he wins the nomination he would have face the republicans and if he cannot face friendly fire then what will happen to him when he has to face hostile fire......Let him defend himself and if he makes mistakes along the way tell him and us that. Dont treat him like a little child who cant defend himself...

Sent by Ross | 4:13 PM ET | 01-23-2008

I thought that Obama handled himself VERY well in the most recent debate. Hillary's resulting to name calling of one of Obama's past associates as a "slum lord" was very un-presidential in my opinion...Whats next? Her slipping up and calling Obama N----?? One thing that is troubling to me is that no one in the media is addressing the fact that a former president is having as much input into this electoral process..It seems unconstitutional that a president is on the campaign trail stumping for a candidate as he is..Even if the candidate happens to be his wife..Americans should be very concerned about once again placing our country in the hands of a Clinton. If Clinton is elected in 2008, at the end of her first term in 2012, our countries highest elected office will have been dominated by two families over a 24 year period(1988-2012).The effects of their politics will last a life time..Why is no one in the media talking about this? How can our country grow if we don't have new ideas and philosophies in the white house. Americans need to wake and realize that, in the words of MalcomX, we are being bamboozled, hoodwinked,run-a-muck...We all need to wake up.

Sent by Glenn | 4:36 PM ET | 01-23-2008

I didn't have any problem with Mrs. Jackson and Mrs. Dyson supporting different presidential candidates than that of their husbands.

I did find it interesting that this is the first time that I've heard Mrs. Jackson speak publicly on an issue; and I've never heard her speak out on issues of alot more importance than Hillary's bid for president. I've never heard her speak on issues such as the rape of women in Darfur, assault against black women and girls or Hurrican Katrina, issues that in my opinion warranted a public outcry.

It just seems that the only common denominator amongst the women mentioned in the piece are that they are part of the "scorned wives club," having had to deal with unfaithful spouses. Is that the tie that binds them to Hillary?

Sent by Isabel Mitchell | 6:48 PM ET | 01-23-2008

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