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LISTENER SOUND OFF June 12, 2008

 
“ If I have any objection, it is to saying what does "Hillary" want rather than "Sen. Clinton." Journalists should refer to the former presidential candidate using her honorific, and not by her first name. Doing so shows a lack of respect. -- Alicia C. Shepard”
 
 

LISTENER SOUND OFF: Occasionally the office will publish a "Sound Off," where the Ombudsman responds to listener inquiries. These letters often address important issues which many NPR listeners might be interested in. Included in this feature are the reactions and input from NPR staff involved in producing news.

Today's "Sound Off" features listener comments regarding NPR's coverage of Dennis Kucinich's proposal to impeach President Bush, correspondent location sign-offs and Senator Clinton's speech on June 3 .



* DENNIS KUCINICH
NPR continues to receive emails and phone calls after Rep. Dennis Kucinich (D-Ohio) introduced a resolution to impeach President Bush on Monday. Tuesday morning, Eric Meagher and several others wondered if NPR was ignoring this event.

"Why is there no mention in the news this morning about Rep. Kucinich from Ohio presenting articles of impeachment in the house last night? Isn't it important enough?" inquired Meagher.

I asked NPR's Washington Editor Ron Elving about this.

ELVING RESPONDED: "Most days, no bill that is introduced is the subject of a news story. In fact, it's hard for me to recall the last time we did a story about a bill on the day it was introduced (although I'm sure we have). It simply does not mean anything unless the bill is going somewhere for serious proceedings.

"Most bills are introduced so that a member can say that she or he introduced a bill. Period. And this is a perfect example. The Democratic leadership has made it clear it would not spend time on impeachment, and they did so from the beginning of the term when there would have been time. Now there is no calendar space for this at committee level or floor level in the remaining weeks of this Congress, and Kucinich knows that."

As it happens, NPR Congressional Correspondent Debbie Elliott did do a 45-second spot for Wednesday morning's Newscast. She thought Kucinich's resolution merited a short mention but was not newsworthy enough for a longer piece on one of the news programs. Also, I should note, that there have been impeach Cheney resolutions all through the second term, none of which went anywhere.

Others inside NPR agreed that the topic was worth some airtime on June 11.

The Bryant Park Project gave it a few minutes. And his proposal was covered on Talk of the Nation and News & Notes.

NPR Politcal analyst Ken Rudin wrote about it in his online column:
Q: Why won't you say anything about Rep. Dennis Kucinich's (D-OH) effort to impeach President Bush? - Susan Lawrence, St. Paul, Minn.

A: There's not much to say, at least not at the moment, other than the fact that Kucinich has introduced the bill and spent five hours on the House floor the other day spelling out his 35 articles of impeachment, charging President Bush with war crimes, endangering civil liberties and lying to the public. An earlier effort by Kucinich to impeach Vice President Cheney went nowhere, as Democrats for the most part hid from the attempt. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has repeated her position that impeachment was "off the table." If the Judiciary Committee, under chairman John Conyers (D-MI), plans to hold hearings on the bill, you will certainly hear more of Kucinich's effort.

NPR's Dan Schorr weighed in today, June 12.

I know listeners can't hear everything that appears on all NPR news programs, but it's fair to say Kucinich was not ignored.

* TELL US WHERE YOU ARE

UPDATE: June 30, 2008 The New York Times stopped running dates on its stories, but it still often includes the location.

L.W.Calhoun wants more information on where NPR correspondents are.

"Many of your listeners don't hear every story from beginning to end, yet we can hear enough to get the gist of the story except for the location," said Calhoun. "The problem is that the correspondents will sign-off with only their names, without telling us the location from where they are reporting. At the end of their stories, have your correspondents end the story by repeating their names, a brief subject-line, and the location. Example: "This is Mama Stamberg making cranberry relish in Mrs. Claus' kitchen at the North Pole."

I asked NPR V.P. for News Ellen Weiss about this. She said NPR used to do that but changed to the current system a few years ago in an effort to be more honest. Correspondents would be reporting somewhere outside the DC headquarters and then come back to produce the piece. Or it could be that a correspondent in Bangkok might be reporting a story from Myanmar, and it would be inaccurate to use a Myanmar dateline. "So we decided that we would only use a location when a reporter files from that location," said Weiss.

Additionally, the New York Times recently stopped running datelines on stories.

* WHAT DOES SEN. CLINTON WANT?
A female listener was incensed by Brian Naylor's June 4 piece which appeared after Obama became the presumptive Democratic nominee. She objected to Naylor using "What does Hillary want?" even though the senator said that herself in the speech.

"But the Obama campaign is thought to be cool to the notion of Clinton as a running mate, leaving unanswered the question the candidate herself posed Tuesday night: "What does Hillary want?" wrote Naylor in an online article.

"Conveniently, while Mr. Obama's speech was posted on the page, Ms. Clinton's was not, so I found it elsewhere, listened to it, and read the transcript," she wrote. "You and I know that by floating the 'What does Hillary want' phrase in the manner executed by Mr. Naylor, it's the old, 'What do women want?' all over again. Even if Ms. Clinton does not know better, and she darn well should, it sure does look like Mr. Naylor, not only took advantage of this bit of idiocy, but exploited it in the most gender-based manner he could."

Brian Naylor responds: "The reader is ascribing motives to me that do not exist, and I think any fair-minded interpretation of what I wrote would find the story quite objective. She seems unhappy both that I quoted Clinton and that I didn't use enough of her quote. Well, that's what journalists do, we're not stenographers. And for the reader's charge that I 'exploited (Clinton's) comments in the most gender-based manner" that I could is Just. Flat. Wrong."

The Ombudsman responds: I read Naylor's piece and I don't find it to be sexist. On the "what does Hillary want?" matter, Sen. Clinton herself asked rhetorically in her speech about what she wants, adding yet more credibility to the use of the question.

If I have any objection, it is to saying what does "Hillary" want rather than "Sen. Clinton." While Clinton has sanctioned the use of "Hillary" for signs, slogans, etc., journalists should refer to the former presidential candidate using her honorific, and not by her first name.

Doing so shows a lack of respect. I don't buy that calling her Hillary helps to differentiate from her husband. Calling her Sen. Clinton accomplishes that. Frankly, I can't imagine journalists saying, "What does Barack want?" I can, however, imagine if Obama had stayed in the race as long as Clinton, pundits asking, 'What does Obama want?'"

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Comments (Send a comment)

You say, "There's not much to say," yet you do say K spoke for 5 hours? There is also the entire conflict between the American people and the elected representatives. Have you looked at the polling on the issue?

"The Democratic leadership has made it clear it would not spend time on impeachment ..." Suggests you all are gatekeepers. Regardless of the objective merits of a case it is up to our leaders in the house, senate, and executive to decide what is and is not news? I say no; it is you to them to make and enforce laws.

It is up to you all to report the news independent of their spin. The idea that something is or is not newsworthy can become a self-fulfilling prophecy. How do you prevent from falling into that? I am troubled that Elving states a problem and does not even recognizing it as a problem. Reiteration of talking points is propaganda.

While it hard to think that Kucinch is not an opportunist, Dan Schorr coverage is rather far from objective, no? Ken Rudin is way to the right. Where is D Elliot story? I do not see it here: http://www.npr.org/templates/rundowns/rundown.php?prgId=3&prgDate=06-11-2008&view=storyview?

Sent by andrew hennessy | 9:10 PM ET | 06-12-2008

"It's fair to say Kucinich was not ignored," That may be, but the articles of impeachment were ignored. Schorr "weighed in" not to tell people what Bush is accused of in 35 counts or whether he committed any of the crimes alleged but rather to tell the audience that the articles are going nowhere.

In other words, Schorr spent his time predicting the future instead of covering the event. And Debbie Elliot's 45 seconds on 35 separate criminal charges was not coverage.

And a resolution to impeach the President is not just "a bill" as NPR's Washington editor disinguenuously asserts. The impeachment resolution is an event without recent precedent and it's news.

The editors know it's news, the editors censored it out, and the editors are not telling us why or who told them to do that. NPR news was once the source to rely on. Now the three letters might as well stand for "Not Particularly Reliable."

Sent by Stephen Fournier | 4:27 PM ET | 06-17-2008

Given current events, your ordinary rules of "viability" should not rule the day, even if Speaker Pelosi has barred an impeachment effort. Bush is touring Europe to drum up support for pursuing "all options" against Iran. Kucinich's articles, sanctioned or not by the full Congress, are an efficient way to review how we got into the bankrupting quagmire that is Iraq, and remind us of how many questions need to be answered about how our government has been operating. Without asking the questions, how can we know what needs fixing or not?

We read one article a night at dinner as the prelude to discussion of how the imperial Presidency (or unitary executive) was created and the consequences for undoing the vital Constitutional checks and balances between the branches. NPR used to be the place I could go for the most up to date, and most diverse coverage of viewpoints, not the place where I could hear conventional wisdom.

I am grateful that Dennis, and those like him, still take the time to try and make sure we ask the questions --before we attack Iran-- even if the media remains tone deaf.

Sent by michael endicott | 1:08 PM ET | 06-18-2008

I watched a You Tube video of Veterans for Peace meeting with Rep Conyers. Several veterans gave him petitions totaling more than twenty three thousand signatures with letters attached.

These Veterans also met with Rep. Kucinich and he stated that he would keep reintroducing the bill if it became inactive and each time he would add more articles of impeachment to the bill.

The overwhelming scope of impeachable offenses that Rep. Kucinich has compiled in this bill warrants a serious look.

It is unfortunate that the media is now as cowed as it was in the run up to war following 9/11. Very little has changed in the way the media toes the line for this administration and it has taken vast numbers of active people speaking out to make any headway at all. But it should be no surprise that all large medias are indeed controlled by political motivations and of course the majority of them by corporate conglomerates.

Sent by Jesse Francis | 7:27 PM ET | 06-18-2008

Introducing a resolution to impeach the President is hardly just another bill. Saying it "simply does not mean anything unless the bill is going somewhere" seems more than just a little contumelious on Mr. Elving's part.

Sent by Doran Barons | 10:18 PM ET | 06-19-2008

Maybe if Congress and the Senate had spent some time actually discussing the Articles, they wouldn't be rushing headlong into passing another weakening of our civil liberties in this new FISA "compromiSED" legislation.

And thanks to Doran for the new word in my vocabulary (contumelious).

Sent by michael endicott | 1:00 PM ET | 06-23-2008

I am not the least satisfied with NPR's explanation of their lack of coverage of Kucinich's introduction of impeachment articles against Bush.

I am, however, gratified that I wasn't the only one who emailed the Ombudsman and generally agree with the emailers. I am, after a number of years, becoming increasingly disenchanted with public radio AND television (NPR/PBS). The internet "truth squad" is going to beat you out, gentlemen.

Sent by Kathleen Berry | 1:16 PM ET | 06-26-2008

Maybe if Congress actually spent time doing more than just naming post offices and finding new and ingenious ways to impeach this White House who by all accounts is on it's last gasp, rather than scoring political points that benefit one side over the other, we'd all be better off. As it stands, impeaching this White House or naming post offices won't lower the price of gas or oil in my neighborhood.

Sent by Stacey Hanrahan | 7:17 AM ET | 06-28-2008

The only complaint I have with the NPR website is that NPR has opted to stream it's content with the Flash Player in favor of the Real Player or Windows Media Player. Flash Player content is unreliable over dialup connections as it spends more time buffering audio than it spends playing the actual content.

Sent by Stacey Hanrahan | 8:12 AM ET | 06-28-2008

In general there is a lack of critical coverage of economic or political events. I'd like more interviews with dissenting voices. NPR news shows have become stale and predictable.

Sent by Larry Rock | 10:45 AM ET | 06-30-2008

Look at all this disappointment and intelligent criticism of NPR's ignoring the Kucinich bill. Its obvious that even the NPR ombudsman isn't really interested in the opinion of citizens who support Kucinich or his impeachment bills. The ombudsman simply asked others to respond to the criticism of NPR - she doesn't act to improve NPR's news and public affairs performance.

NPR isn't prepared to acknowledge facts - to loudly report any truths - that are unflattering to the Administration or conservatives (Republican or Democrats) in power. Those corporate backers and politicians would criticize and punish NPR if it actually informed the American public in a way that helped the majority of citizens to act in their own interest. That's pretty ironic for a media organization that was originally supposed to be "public."

Sent by Lisa French | 11:03 AM ET | 07-09-2008

Larry Rock wrote: "..... NPR news shows have become stale and predictable."

Exactly. That's why I grew tired of NPR and stopped listening. Even the tone of the reports and reporter is the same, down to the lilt (or usual lack of it, giving a delivery reminiscent of a funeral.)

"On the scene" reports are built from the same template, complete with the timing of the "on the scene" sounds. I'm in my 50s but I feel like I'm listening to my grandmother's radio station.

Sent by Cheryl Jones | 9:24 PM ET | 07-12-2008

It's obvious that NPR provides this page as a valve for discontent; so they can further ignore the issue; but, it actually is hopeful to see so many logical people responding. Remember:"Don't mourn, organize!" (joe hill)

Sent by rl | 3:42 PM ET | 07-23-2008

What does Hillary want? (Instead of Senator Clinton).

Expresses 'Shear exasperation' on the part of the writer of that sentence.

If senator Clinton had not stooped as low as she did battering her opponent - kitchen sink AND fridge and all, I think she would have received a more respectful address by the writer.

Her silence now only strengthens the belief that the Clintons will stop at nothing and at some point their emphasis had shifted to 2012.
Clintons have not as yet shown any indication of actively campaigning the nominee.

Sent by Raj Iyer | 5:05 AM ET | 07-26-2008

Kucinich's introduction of impeachment articles was ajoke not worth covering. Anyone can see it is just a political pile. I AM WONDERING WHO WILL COVER THE STORY OF HOW REDICULOUS AND WRONG THE BUSH BANGERS WERE AFTER HISTORY LOOKS BACK ON HIS LEADERSHIP RESULTS.

Sent by rl buchanan | 11:56 AM ET | 07-26-2008

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