
Dying Well in Missoula
Thursday, November 6th All Things Considered
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JAN WILMS, MEDICAL ETHICIST, ST.
PATRICK HOSPITAL, UNIVERSITY OF
MONTANA, MISSOULA: I have my
preferences about how I think I would prefer to die, and I don't
think the model that is being touted here would work for me.
HOWARD BERKES: Jan Wilms watches the
Missoula Demonstration Project from her medical ethics chair at
St. Patrick Hospital in the University of Montana. She's
uncomfortable with what she sees.
JAN WILMS: I'm not sure that I'm in a
place that I could make that sort of spiritual voyage that seems
to come out of these models. I think that I would prefer to be
left alone, thank you, or wake up dead one morning and not go
through the process.
So, I worry about those of us who
maybe wouldn't consider that -- the ideal way to die.
HOWARD BERKES: Some people want to be
kept alive -- tubes and machines and all -- to squeeze out every
moment of life, or in hopes they might get better. Some decide
the end of life isn't worth living, despite sensitive and
attentive care, powerful drugs, and the promise of emotional
healing. Medical ethicist Jan Wilms.
JAN WILMS: There are still some things
we can't make nice about dying. You know, I'd -- I have -- would
have, personally, a great fear of having all of my bodily
functions completely out of my own control. You know, this is a
privacy thing. This is a body image kind of thing. It may be a
form of psychotic reaction. But, that would bother me.
So even if I were pain free, I'm
not sure that there shouldn't be a space for a place or a time,
or an option, for people whose suffering is not in the realm of
physical pain, but emotional pain or despair or whatever, to have
an end of life option besides the model.
HOWARD BERKES: The Missoula model, Wilms
fears, is enveloping the city with the kind of fervor that makes
skepticism elusive. She has these questions:
Will people yield to community
pressure and die the way they're expected to die, rather than
dying the way they want? Will they feel pressure from the
doctors, nurses, bath aides, and hospice volunteers caring for
them, and worry they'll get less attention if they reject the
model?
Will doctors, nurses, hospitals,
and nursing homes yield control of their patients, and change
their procedures to accommodate these good deaths? Will doctors
overcome years of training aimed at curing illness and saving
life, and be satisfied with simply making dying patients
comfortable?
And will the model work elsewhere,
even if it works well in cohesive and progressive Missoula? Ira
Byock acknowledges these questions, but he insists the project is
more process than prescription.
DR. IRA BYOCK: I really worry a little bit
about this being misunderstood as, you know, the way to die and
being seen as somehow formulaic or expected. I don't think
there's a responsibility to die in a certain way. Basically, all
I'm really saying is that dying well occurs when there's a sense
of meaning and value and purpose experienced by the person, and
that our responsibility is to take care of the basic human needs
and allow that to occur.
HOWARD BERKES: The project's so new it's
unclear what that actually means for dying patients, for their
care, or for the people in institutions caring for them. But some
people in Missoula have already been affected in profound ways.
SOUND OF RUSHING STREAM AND BIRDS
SINGING
Upstream from Missoula, along the
Clark Fork River, deer graze and birds sing in a meadow shaded by
cottonwoods. This is where rancher John Holden sought solace when
his mother died. Their relationship was strained to the end, he
says, real healing was needed. Help came with an unexpected call
from an interviewer with the Missoula Demonstration Project. She
offered to listen.
John Holden on left Howard Berkes on right |
JOHN HOLDEN, RANCHER: I think one
of the things it did for me is that in talking about some of my
resentment towards my mother, you know, we were even able to
laugh about some of it, as well as feel bad about it. But -- and
just by being with somebody who was open like that, and she
accepted -- there was no judgment. It was caring. That helped me
deal with it.
HOWARD BERKES: Holden's conflict with his
mother was so deep, he says, he couldn't resolve it with her
before she died. He has to do that within himself. Holden adds
that the project's focus on grieving and dying is refreshing.
JOHN HOLDEN: Oh, I think people deny
the fact that they're gonna die. I think realizing that one is
going to die is important. I think it makes a lot of difference
as to how we can face today. I think it can make facing today
much easier. I think it allows a person to do that rather than
getting drug down in things of the past or what they think people
will think, or worrying about the future.
I just have nothing but admiration
for those people. They're willing to take that kind of risk. And
that's what a lot of this boils down to is, you know, taking the
emotional risk to face the realities of life.
HOWARD BERKES: That's a risk Erin
O'Connor says she's ready to take now. O'Connor's a nurse who
spent 20 years at deathbeds and thought she was completely
comfortable with dying, until she began to work with the Missoula
Demonstration Project.
ERIN O'CONNOR, NURSE, MISSOULA
DEMONSTRATION PROJECT: In spite of all these years of being in
those kinds of settings where people die every day, I had never
until this last couple of months of being involved with this
project, talked about death, in spite of the fact that I
personally lost a young child at the age of three and a half, but
no one in my professional circle, no one in my family was ever
comfortable talking about death. I was never comfortable talking
about it. My child died over 30 years ago, and I have had five
other children. They don't know their brother.
HOWARD BERKES: O'Connor finds hope in
something the project is endorsing -- shrines to the dead built
by families and friends.
ERIN O'CONNOR: I have many objects at
home from my little boy that I'm planning now to invite my oldest
son, who was just two years old a week after his biggest brother
died, to participate with me in building a shrine to his brother,
whom he still remembers very vividly, but [whispering] we
don't talk about.
SOUND OF BANJO PLAYING AT BLOCK
PARTY
HOWARD BERKES: The spring block party
celebrating Ira Byock's success went long into the night, but
little was said about dying that evening, except indirectly by a
surprise guest.
DR. IRA BYOCK: Well, you made it. I am
honored.
RUSSELL HAASCH: We decided we were going
to bite down and drive over and say hi, anyway, to you.
DR. IRA BYOCK: Good.
HOWARD BERKES: "Russell's here"
some murmur in the crowd. Russell struggles out of his car and
into a lawn chair, an oxygen tank at his side. Dr. Byock hands
him a plastic cup filled with beer. "To life," he says
as they toast.
RUSSELL HAASCH: I'm just going to stay
right with it. I did. I tried. I tried. I tried to stay with it.
Do the best I could really did -- enjoyed life -- really
enjoyed life. Had a lot of fun.
HOWARD BERKES: Russell tells us later he
wants to stay up all night and dance, listen to music, drink
beer, and tell lies. But he tires quickly and smiles and waves
meekly from the front seat of the car, as Sally drives him home
for a night's rest and another day of living.
SINGERS:
I wonder where you are tonight
APPLAUSE
BAND MEMBER: Bring down the house.
Whoo-hoo.
BAND MEMBER: Thank you.
BAND MEMBER: Thank you.
BERKES: This is Howard Berkes
reporting.
ROBERT SIEGEL: If you'd like to more
about end of life care, visit our website at npr.org. There,
you'll find transcripts of this series as well. Tomorrow, the
changing place of palliative care in medicine.
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