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Extra audio: You can hear an extended version of Roger Simon's interview with Alex Chadwick.

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What Simon Said


What Simon Said

The Hillary people should read this.

I did, and I've been talking to everybody at NPR West about Relentless: How Barack Obama Outsmarted Hillary Clinton by Roger Stone. He's the chief political columnist at, a long-time reporter with Chicago roots. (Click over to his bio and check out the last line on where he's going to be buried.)

For Relentless, Simon talked to two-dozen top people from both campaigns. It feels very thorough and revealing—the best summation coverage I've seen on how Barack won, and why she lost. I've been trying to get an interview with Roger on the show since I read Relentless on Monday, but we couldn't catch up with him in Denver until late yesterday. I'm really glad we got this on today; given news cycles, this is probably the last day we could run it. The interview I did with him is good; you can listen to a longer version of our conversation using the audio link above. But his full pieces are better.

What say you, though? What's your take on Simon's analysis—and the larger question of how Obama won?