I Can't Sleep!

I've wanted insomnia since I first saw Fight Club nine years ago. Ed Norton made it look so cool and sexy and mysterious. The closest I've ever come, though, are the all-nighters I pulled in high school and college in order to finish whatever paper or project I procrastinated. A part of me liked the feeling of being awake and active while the world was sleeping. It felt like having a really cool secret, or being part of an exclusive club. But after doing research for this segment, I've realized that my assumptions and romanticized notions of sleep deprivation were naive — insomnia is tough, and it can paralyze lives.

Writer and professor Gayle Greene has suffered through a lifetime of sleeplessness. She wrote about her experiences in the book Insomniac. She joins us to share her stories, and to draw attention to a sleeping disorder that is often neglected or trivialized. We'll also talk to two professionals from the Sleep Disorders Center at the University of Michigan about the medical and psychological issues surrounding insomnia, and the various treatment methods.

So, all you insomniacs out there, tell us, what have you done to deal with your insomnia?



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Why are people going to bed, with so much weight and chaos on their minds that they cannot fully let their bodies and minds find their great escape in sleep.

Sent by Laura | 3:10 PM | 5-20-2008

I would love to be one of those productive insomniacs, the ones who complete their novels or even just clean the house while others are dreaming away the hours. But instead, I find myself "looping," sometimes running the words of a single song over and over in my head, until my exhausted brain cells are dragged down into another restless hour's doze.
I wake up groggy and drag my sorry self through the day, then go to bed around ten, barely able to keep my eyes open long enough to find the pillow. Then bang! Eyes wide open.

Sent by Deb | 3:13 PM | 5-20-2008

I am a mild incomniac, about half the time I will get between 3 and 5 hours of sleep, but lately, as I've been progressing in school, last week was marked by only 4 hours a night and that being the week before finals.

I've found my wife's profession, a licenced massage therapist is one of only two cures to get a good nights' sleep by way of Cranial Sacral techniques. Despite that, I don't have her do it every night, but rather suffer with it until I can't stand it anymore.

Sent by Jaaz Cole | 3:15 PM | 5-20-2008

I have had it my entire life. I remember having insomnia even as a child. Please ask the guest if childhood insomnia is at all common.

Sent by Zoe | 3:17 PM | 5-20-2008

I have had problems with lack of sleep, or lack of good, deep sleep for the last 10 years or so. Recently I had some particularly difficult issues in my life and went to my doctor to see if I was a candidate for one of the new sleep aid pharmaceutials. I was prescribed Ambian, and have found it works very well - almost too well - now I can't seem to get a decent night's sleep without it. How do you feel about using these types of medications? And for how long are the safe to use?

Sent by Pam Israelson | 3:17 PM | 5-20-2008

A fish tank, with gently floating fish will lull one off the s1/4onsious of sleep.

Sent by Christopher | 3:20 PM | 5-20-2008

My insomnia involves not sleeping through the night. I sleep for an hour or so, then wake up and have trouble getting back to sleep. When that happens, I listen to jazz on...sorry...my local NPR station

Sent by Dan Henderson, Holland, MI | 3:21 PM | 5-20-2008

Like the last caller, I listen to radio to occupy my mind when I can;t get back to sleep. I started this when working in California. I could listen to Morning Edition in what was for me, the middle of the night. Now i listen to the BBC.

Sent by Ron Coffman | 3:22 PM | 5-20-2008

My husband is an insomnia and it causes stress in our marriage. He is cranky and short tempered

Sent by Rebecca | 3:23 PM | 5-20-2008

I have trouble falling asleep. I have for years because I can't turn my brain off. Then I found a good method to shut down my brain: Turn on the television. 5 minutes and I'm done and sleeping soundly. TV really does shut down the brain (scary).

Sent by Christian | 3:23 PM | 5-20-2008

and do chores. Imagining getting up and washing dishes and doing laundry often knocks me out!

Sent by terra lubin | 3:25 PM | 5-20-2008

I very rarely have a hard time sleeping as my father told me that when I went to bed it was to sleep and if you aren't ready to do that then don't go yet. But anyway, as an adult if I have a hard time falling asleep, I type the names of my family on the keyboard in my head and the next thing you know it's morning. I rarely get past the immediate family before I'm gone.
Marti, Tucson, Arizona

Sent by Marti | 3:26 PM | 5-20-2008

I fall asleep just fine but cannot remain asleep. I can awake every morning between 1:30 AM and 3:00 PM. I have tried medicines and natural remedies and not much works. I read and just tough it out during the day sometimes with vivarin and caffinated drinks. The lack of sleep seems to increase the aches and pains in my joints and muscles. I feel I just need to live with it.

Sent by Lisa Shaw | 3:27 PM | 5-20-2008

If your insomnia is ever "cured", can there be a difference in your dreams--after the "healing"?

Sent by A. Ambrose | 3:27 PM | 5-20-2008

i found the perfect cure for my sleepless nights!
i'm recording your broadcast, and with the yawns i'm experiencing now as i listen i'm certain that by looping the audio i will snore happily through the evening.

Sent by sydney moseley | 3:29 PM | 5-20-2008

I'm curious to know if the guests, particularly working with university students, have found any relation between the use and possible abuse of caffeine pills to 'stay awake' and the development of insomnia or insomnia-like symptoms due to the body's natural rhythms being fooled by the reliance on the drug?

Sent by Mike Cornett | 3:29 PM | 5-20-2008

If you have insomnia, but can still sleep for short periods of time, do you dream still? Is there a difference in those dreams?

Sent by A. Ambrose | 3:29 PM | 5-20-2008

I would of course always support public radio--but one of my primary reasons is the local broadcast of BBC overnight--it is what gets me to sleep and it's what gets me through the long nights of no sleep. Bless the BBC! And Coca Cola!!

Sent by chip | 3:31 PM | 5-20-2008

I have had a hard time sleeping my whole life, waking up for hours in the middle of the night, and then falling asleep, finally, right before I have to get up. I have heard that all I need to do is re-set my internal clock, and I have been trying this, but I still can't go the day without a nap in the afternoon. What do you know about re-setting your internal clock?

Sent by Jenny | 3:31 PM | 5-20-2008

To calm my overactive mind, I find that reading children's books in bed helps me go to sleep. The positive moral lessons and colorful illustrations counteract the distressing aspect of adult life. I volunteer at the local library's children's department every week, and select a stack of bedtime reading for myself to take home.

Sent by Helga Motley | 3:33 PM | 5-20-2008

While there are many causes of sleeplessness. What role does training your body to a schedule play. I know I have erratic sleep patterns but I know that I should just go to bed and sleep will come.

Sent by andrew mcghie | 3:33 PM | 5-20-2008

I also have insomnia so what often helps me is to play NPR all night just loud enough to hear without effort but not too loud. Because programs are repeated and not all are as interesting to me, when I begin to surface from a deeper state of sleep, I follow along what ever is playing and resettle back into sleep. Other radio doesn't do it for me.

Sent by EV | 3:35 PM | 5-20-2008

I'm listening to this program on sleep and so far no one has discussed diet. There are foods eaten in the evening that will keep people awake (especially high protein meats, hot spicy foods) and there are foods that help sleep (such as rice, potatoes, and other starchy vegetables, milk, and high calcium foods). We, as a society, tend to eat our meats and large amounts in evening. I realize that more severe cases of insomnia have other causes. However, food could easily be an issue.

Sent by Champa | 3:35 PM | 5-20-2008

sex. never fails me.
have a lot of trouble getting sleep because brain does not let me - too much thought. sex never failed me yet !

Sent by Jason | 3:36 PM | 5-20-2008

I have heard all of the different 'methods' used by your insomniacs to distract their brains into slipping into sleep, - boring books, videos, tapes, etc...

Indeed I have employed these 'tricks' myself at points in my life. Then I discovered how to meditate & how all of those 'tricks' were basically poor imitations for what I could do myself in 20 minutes a day.

I am not going to say it's always easy, but learning to shut off your brain by yourself is by far the most efficient way to a good nights sleep I know. Plus the additional health benefits are astounding!

I urge all of the insomniacs out there to join a group that teaches meditation and then to practice for just 5 minutes a day, the results will astound you. (some people need yoga to learn how to meditate - just as boring books calm the mind, repetitive gentle motion can do the same)

Sent by Suzette Stewart | 3:36 PM | 5-20-2008

Did one of your guests indicate that sleep is affected by insulin? Diabetics have a problem with insulin rising during the night. Could someone elaborate.

Sent by Maggie from Missouri | 3:37 PM | 5-20-2008

I have used "alternate nostril breathing" that I learned in Yoga. It isn't a sleep technique but concentrating on it, mixed with the fact that it calms the nervous system has helped during times that I can't fall asleep.

Sent by kirsten | 3:37 PM | 5-20-2008

"Insomnia Advocacy Group" - how could we possibly form an insomnia advocacy group? We're way too tired!

Sent by Allison | 3:37 PM | 5-20-2008

Get a sleep study!! It's changed my husband's life. Keep advocating for yourself until you find a remedy, it's out there, don't get discouraged. Don't give up!!

Sent by gobytrain | 3:37 PM | 5-20-2008

I've taken ambien. It scares the pants off me. I've never been a sleep walker, but I will wake up in the morning to see evidence of things I've done - talked on instant message on my computer, half eaten meals, deliveries of things I bought online - with absolutely no memory of them. Ambien is not a drug, I think, a person who lives alone should take.

Sent by Allison | 3:40 PM | 5-20-2008

I recall having difficulties sleeping, including nighmares and true night terrors as far back as grade school. The only "treatment" - if you can call it that, is that I now have a pet that sleeps with me all night through. Of all the dogs & cats that have graced my life, I finally have one that will stay by my side from the time I first lay down in bed to when I wake up. This "little" dog has done what counseling and medication could not do. She provides a sense of comfort and security.

Sent by Trish | 3:51 PM | 5-20-2008

I'm surprised the subject of exercise never came up!

My sleep challenges stem from Sleep Phase Disorder, as it was described toward the end of the radio discussion. My system wants to follow a ~26hr clock instead of 24. I noticed this as insomnia when I was 5 or 6yrs old, and am now 38. What has helped me manage it, SIGNIFICANTLY, has been to make certain to get at least 25min of cardiovascular exercise (75-85% max perceived exertion) every day. Without the exercise, I lie in bed for 90+ min before drifting off. With the exercise, I'm catching Zs within 15min.

I still find I need the big catch-up 9-10hr night's sleep every week to 10 days, since my bedtime still tends to slide later over successive nights. But I'm pretty well rested most of the time.

Sent by bryan w | 3:56 PM | 5-20-2008

I have a proplem of falling asleep and now it is getting to a point that I want to stop talking about it. People dont believe it. I don't want to take medicine anymore.

Sent by Florence | 3:59 PM | 5-20-2008

I have suffered from incapacitating insomnia for a couple of years, and in January of this years was diagnosed with Multiple Sclerosis. My Primary Care Physician, one of the sleep doctors I have seen and my MS neurologist all say there is no connection between my insomnia and MS. One very kind neurologist at the Washington University Sleep Center here in St. Louis said "it is a very difficult, intransigent problem". It's nice to hear a doctor and a specialist say they don't know something. One of my sleep doctors kept sending me to psychiatrists, believing my sleep problem was a psychiatric problem

Sent by Jill Nolan | 4:05 PM | 5-20-2008

I am stunned that with all the talk about sleep disorders there was not one mention of the Epstein Barr virus, the adult form of Mono is a direct cause of of sleeplessness. The virus stop the production of enzymes required for deep sleep

The sleep deprivation from the Epstein Barr virus is devastating and has stopped my life for 7 months.

After the first bout over 13 years ago I prayed it never came back. It took 1-1/2 year to recover last time. If not for the care of Dr Conley, a specialist in Flint, Mi I think I would have been treated with the wrong drugs and not have recovered to this point.

So beware not ALL of the sleep disorders have been discussed or even recognized.

Epstein Barr can be determenedd with a blood test.

Sent by Dorinda | 4:19 PM | 5-20-2008

I was listening to this program on my break at work when "Kevin" called in and shared his story. He said he was on a 30-36 hour clock. I cried with him. I would like to know if Kevin gets the help he needs. Please keep in touch with him, follow up and check in with him. He was really torn up and it seems like he was really crying out for help and on the brink giving it all up. What can you do if you lose your job(s) due to this illness and can't afford to see a speciallist to get help!? I don't think the local health clinic would have the tools to truly invest in someone with insomnia. Kevin, I am praying for you. God Bless

Sent by Nona M - Wyoming | 4:26 PM | 5-20-2008

I too had a hard time sleeping and had to take care of elderly parents. My father would try to get up at night and would fall down so I couldn't sleep at night, and when they would both be awake in the day time I had to be awake for them both. I ended up using my Dads' sleep apnea pills Alertec to keep myself awake. They were wonderful. They got rid of my depression and kept me awake at the same time. When my Dad finally went into the nursing home I kept using them and my body finally got used to being awake in the day time and would let me sleep at night. It was like a resurection from the dead for me. The only problem is that those pills are terribly expensive, unless you can get them from Canada.

Sent by Enid | 4:53 PM | 5-20-2008

I have found the time elapsed between dinner and bedtime to be a major factor in my insomnia. I used to wake up fairly often in the middle of the night and couldn't get back to sleep for 2-3 hours. I thought it was from drinking too much coffee and/or not exercising during the day. I eventually quit caffeine completely, but I would still wake up, even if I exercised and lifted weights in the middle of the day. Through close inspection, I found that a difference of just an extra hour between dinner and bedtime resolves much of my insomnia. If I go to bed at 10pm, I have to eat at 6:30. If it's 7:30 or later, I usually have trouble sleeping.

Sent by Anon | 5:27 PM | 5-20-2008

One of the guests commented about insulins affect on sleep. Could someone expound on that?

Sent by Maggie Stubblefield | 6:11 PM | 5-20-2008

Response to Zoe (from Gayle Greene)--yes, I think childhood onset insomnia is much more common than the scientific literature indicates--i have a lot of pages about this in the book; I came across many many people who had the problem from childhood (including me). This is an area that needs much more research.

Sent by gayle greene | 6:40 PM | 5-20-2008

I have Insomnia and I too get cranky and irritable when I cannot fall asleep. In the morning I keep a little distance from people that I work with and even in past relationships. They find out real quick to just leave me alone. I keep my distance because I'm afraid I might release my frustration on them. :(
I find myself apologizing for my attitude all the time. Always trying to explain how I didn't get enough sleep.
Not very much Fun...

Sent by Paul | 8:21 PM | 5-20-2008

Great discussion today! For a series of really helpful articles on many aspects of sleep including what really is normal sleep, see http://www.open-spaces.com/topics-sleep.php. The author is a noted expert in the field, and the essays are accessible for free.

Sent by Ieva Walker | 8:42 PM | 5-20-2008

I have had difficulty sleeping for years. What I didn't realize was that, after I subtracted the emotional stress I was under, I was suffering from mild physical discomfort that would interrupt my sleep. Minimal back pain, shoulder pain and discomfort from esophogeal and polio related problems didn't deter me from doing what I wanted to do during the day. However, these kept me from relaxing enough at night so that I couldn't go to sleep. The answer? Pillows!! Experimenting with pillows, I found that support and elevation at critical points eleviated physical stress, and now I sleep like a lamb. It takes three to four pillows, placed at strategic points, that allow my body to fully relax. I don't think this would have worked years ago, when I was under serious work related stress or experiencing menapause, but it sure works now.

Sent by Ginny Ryan | 8:55 PM | 5-20-2008

"Waking up in the middle of the night is one of many forms of insomnia. These mid-sleep awakenings often occur during periods of stress -- physical or emotional -- and depression could be a factor."

No! This is so wrong! Numerous sleep studies have shown that this is arguably the most "normal" sleep pattern. Here's a link to NY Times story on it:


Sent by Gary C | 9:52 PM | 5-20-2008

I have been a deep sleeper most of my life, but lately I fall into a very deep sleep and wake almost immediately. This seems to happen a six or seven times, almost consecutively, and then I finally sleep. However, in the morning I am very tired, not rested. Not sure what causes is, but is there something one can do to ameliorate this problem?

Sent by Carlos R. Saavedra | 10:05 PM | 5-20-2008

A technique I often use and which usually puts me to sleep - I sing to myself. Not out loud, in my mind, I sing the lullabyes I used to sing to my children.
Why - If I get 6 hours sleep between 11PM and 5AM, I will be tired. But, if I sleep between 2AM and 8AM I am fine. It does make getting to work on time difficult.

Sent by patricia verwiel | 11:33 PM | 5-20-2008

Throughout my youth I never had a problem sleeping. Now that I'm in my 40's, sometimes I wake up in the middle of the night. Last night I woke up at 2am. I don't bother to fight it. I just get up and go downstairs. I either read or watch TV for a couple hours, then go back to sleep for a couple hours until I have to get up for work.

If I have to go to work early that day, I just make coffee and stay up. I just go with the flow and don't waste time trying to sleep when I'm not sleepy.

I'm lucky to have an understanding wife.

Sent by Matt Schwab | 8:55 AM | 5-21-2008

I've had trouble sleeping since I was a pre-teen but even more so for the last 6 or 7 years (I'm 25 now). Like Christian above, I don't really have trouble staying asleep - only getting there: I can rarely seem to shut off my brain at night and will run songs, stories & daily scenarios over and over in my mind until I realize it's 4 or 5 in the morning and I haven't actually drifted off yet. I tried a few of the prescription sleep aids like Lunesta & Ambien but never really felt good in the morning after I woke up.

But then I started taking over-the-counter Benedryl and that seems to do the trick. I take two pills about an hour before I want to go to bed and end up sleeping like a baby. I checked with my Doctor and she said that as long as don't keep increasing the dosage it really doesn't have any harmful longterm effects. Your body does, however, start to get used to it after awhile (hence the concern over increased dosage). When that happens I just switch back to the prescription stuff for a month or two and then go back to benedryl afterwards.

I've also noticed other influences in my life tend to effect how bad my insomnia gets such as exercise, eating habits and daily routine.

Sent by Dan | 8:59 AM | 5-21-2008

I am surprised that no one has mentioned the affects of diet on sleep. Simply changing your diet can cure insomnia. Low blood sugar(Hypoglycemia)can lead to insomnia. There are many books on the topic. You can also go to your dietician in order to get on a specific diet which consists of eating protein, carbs and fat in balanced portions at every meal and eliminating refined sugars, white rice, pasta and starchy foods such as potatoes. You should also eat every two hours including a small snack with some protein right before bed.

Sent by Paulina De La Torre | 12:54 PM | 5-21-2008

A good physics book always puts me to sleep, I'd give the name but I don't want to offend any of those mighty scientists. Parially kidding, insonmia is a problem for me, and I found out that I had a medical reason, so I suggest that people get tested for glandular systems.

Sent by Doxa | 4:49 PM | 5-21-2008

When I can't sleep, instead of tossing and turning, fretting about it, or getting up to do something, I just lay in bed telling myself, "Well, at least I'm resting". And when it's time to get out of bed, I am fairly well rested.

Sent by Elwyn | 5:14 PM | 5-21-2008

My grandfather was a doctor and had an insomnia problem. He was able to treat it himself with low doses of barbiturates (he lived to 97 so I don't think he was hurt by the drugs). My mother, his daughter, has never had any problem sleeping, but I seem to have inherited my grandfather's insomnia. It isn't every night; it can go weeks without happening. But when it starts I never know how many nights it'll continue.

Sent by Rick | 3:25 AM | 5-22-2008

I came across the radio interview with Gayle Greene and is has been such food for thought! Many thanks for this thoughtful look at sleep issues and how pervasive they are in our culture.
I have ended up with a 2 page document here in the wee small hours and know that it is too long for this setting.
Suffice it to say that it is helpful to know there are so many folks out there with such similar issues. Kindred spirits!!

Sent by Sheri | 7:34 AM | 5-22-2008

I can identify with Kevin who called near the end of the program and I thought was not only given short shrift (I know, partly a time factor), but I also feel that the sleep "specialist" who responded to him was rather blithe in his optomistic forecast for Kevin.

I could have been Kevin years ago and I still have the same problems but the intensity of my pain (and anger) is past only because I finally don't have to try to keep a work schedule anymore...I am on disability and very near retirement age.

I think I too had/have a delayed sleep-phase disorder, but because I had to conformm to the standard work hours, and couldn't sleep at my "natural" hours, I eventually couldn't sleep at ANY hours. On weekends I got just enough to keep me alive and to try to try to survive for another week.

Nobody, but nobody understood and I learned not to talk about it. It was embarassing and freakish. To compensate, I played up the "ditzy" and pretended I wanted to be that way. While still in my 20's I had to quit and try to patch together a very insecure existance of part-time jobs at later hours.

My irritation with the researcher who was so chipper about his outlook (if only he found a good lab!)...is that from what I've found is that long-term success with rehabilitating true DSPS is in fact dismal. Possibly helpful with some who have just learned bad habits over summer vacation, but I believe there are TRUE and genetic sufferers of this disorder and all the bright morning lights and manipulated sleep/wake schedules are seldom helpful for these folks. I feel for you Kevin and it's sad (tragic)that yes one can loose SO much, and yet no one really understands. However, Gayle Greene gets it, and I am so grateful for her book and I hope it begins to raise an awareness that this is not a trivial subject. Hang on for the genetic research that I think will finally validate our handicap.

Sent by Kristina | 1:11 PM | 5-22-2008

I am having similar problems, i have always been able to have a good nite sleep but lately i can barely sleep, and sometimes i get so frustated i start having weird thoughts about suicide. My mind is in overdrive, there will be a song that keeps on playing over and over in my head, sometimes if i am lying in my bed i cant even tell me if i am dreaming or not. I also sweat alot, and this has seriously started to frustate me. But then there will be times when i can sleep for 12 hours striaght and no matter what you do i just wouldnt be able to wake up!!!
Am not sure, but lately i have started taking whey protein, i excercise 4 times a week in the gym as well. I am wondering if it is the protein, but how could it be?? does the two have any relation to one another??

Sent by TJ | 8:34 PM | 5-22-2008

I try to enjoy my insomnia by listening to NPR and the BBC. Here is a list of useful tips I've accumulated from various sources that may help fellow sufferers.

Tips to help you sleep
1. Avoid or limit your use of caffeine (such as coffee, tea, sodas, chocolate), cold medicines, alcohol, and tobacco.
2. Exercise more often, but not within a few hours before going to bed.
3. Learn to reduce or manage stress in your life.
4. Don't lie in bed worrying. Set aside another time just for worrying. For example, spend 30 minutes after dinner writing down what's worrying you and what you can do about it.
5. Try eating a light snack before going to bed, but don't eat too much. A glass of warm milk or some cheese and crackers may be all you need.
6. Don't nap during the day if it seems to make your insomnia worse. Go to bed and wake up at the same time every day, including weekends, even if you didn't get enough sleep. This will help train your body to sleep at night.
7. Get into a bedtime routine. Do the same thing every night before going to sleep. For example, take a warm bath and then read for 10 minutes every night before going to bed. Soon these things will help make you sleepy.
8. Use the bedroom only for sleeping and having sex. Don't eat, talk on the telephone, or watch television while you're in bed.
9. Make sure your bedroom is quiet and dark. If noise is a problem, use a fan to cover the noise or use earplugs. If you must sleep during the day, hang dark blinds over the windows or wear an eye mask.
10. If you're still awake after trying to fall asleep for 30 minutes, get up and go to another room. Sit quietly for about 20 minutes, then go back to bed. Do this as many times as you need to until you can fall asleep.

Sent by Dana Raven | 5:03 AM | 5-23-2008

I was disappointed to hear this interview, as it seemed shallow and didn't really explore the problems adequately. The book is so rich and deeply explores the issues and problems with the medical community and society in general. it seemed as though NC hadn't even read the book or asked pertinent questions. It would have been nice to hear some acknowledgment from the the so called "experts" and what the current research is exploring. I guess if you want an in depth interview on NPR, you have to go on Fresh Air.

Sent by Victoria | 8:05 PM | 7-3-2008

I am very grateful to Gayle Greene for such a fine study of insomnia. I have suffered from insomnia (of varying degrees) since an episode of postpartum depression several years ago and since that time have become fascinated with both the biology and psychology of insomnia. Gayle Greene has done a tremendous job of addressing all aspects of insomnia, and I appreciate her wide-ranging research and her willingness to share her own story. I inhaled this book, and it has given me hope that the complex problem of insomnia will come to the forefront of our culture.

Sent by Kristin | 9:58 PM | 7-10-2008

People do have so much on their minds and have a hard time going over the bridge to sleep. I have just finished Dr Haug's new book "I Want to Sleep" he has a wonderful idea of "embracing sleep" instead of making war with insomnia.Very readable!

Sent by jane | 1:42 PM | 7-22-2008

I've been hooked on OTC sleep meds (doxylamine succinate) for more than 25 years. I thought I'd read that someone had sued Sominex for heart valve problems related to this medication. Do you know anything about this?

Sent by Barbara | 7:12 AM | 7-25-2008

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