Automakers Extend Contract Negotiations

Ford says it will extend contract talks in Detroit beyond the midnight deadline. General Motors and Chrysler may do so as well. Each company says it needs major changes from the United Auto Workers if they are to survive.

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Major labor talks with the United Auto Workers were supposed to end tonight at midnight, but Ford has announced it will extend beyond the deadline. Detroit's big three say they need major changes from the United Auto Workers if they're to survive.

NPR's Frank Langfitt reports.

FRANK LANGFITT: Soaring health care costs and global competition; those two trends are at the heart of epic contract talks. Specifically, the companies are looking to get rid of about $100 billion in health care obligations, a crippling cost its key foreign competitors don't face. The U.S. companies are desperate to escape rising costs. They want to put money in a trust fund and let the union take on the burden of managing retiree health care.

David Cole chairs the Center for Automotive Research, a think tank in Ann Arbor. He says the stakes in the new contract are high.

Mr. DAVID COLE (Chairman, Center for Automotive Research): Historically, labor and management could negotiate, but there was never a question about the viability of the company. Well, today, that's not true. These companies are really in play.

LANGFITT: But it's not certain the union will back a health care trust fund. Workers at Ford and General Motors have already given up some health care benefits and are worried about more reductions. Cole says to win workers' support, union leaders could press the company to guarantee jobs.

Mr. COLE: New products built here in the United States - that would be an extremely important aspect for many of the workers to see new jobs here rather than jobs disappear somewhere else.

LANGFITT: Talks with all three car firms could go into the weekend, as they have in the past. Either way, no one expects a strike.

Frank Langfitt, NPR News.

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Epic Auto Contract Talks Focus on Health Care

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When contract time rolls around in Detroit, people always say the negotiations are the biggest ever. This time, that may actually be true.

At midnight Friday, the current contract between the United Auto Workers and Detroit's three car companies ends.

Both sides are trying to work out a new deal that would help the struggling firms and protect workers' benefits. Some people who follow the industry say its future is at stake.

Ford, General Motors and Chrysler lost billions of dollars last year and worker health-care costs are soaring. The companies say they need big changes to turn their businesses around. David Cole, who chairs the Center for Automotive Research, a think tank in Ann Arbor, Mich., says the tone surrounding negotiations has completely changed.

"The company was like the Rock of Gibraltar," Cole says. "It was always going to be there no matter what. What's different now is the uncertainty about the future of the companies."

Neither the union nor the companies will discuss contract talks.

By all accounts, the big issue appears to be health care. The companies have promised about $100 billion worth of health care to retirees.

That puts them at a huge disadvantage with foreign competitors, such as Toyota and Honda. The Detroit companies think they have a solution: put money in a trust fund and let the union take over responsibility for managing health care.

The plan would protect the auto firms from rising costs and protect union members if a company collapsed.

As it stands now, Cole says: "If any of them does go bankrupt — as we've seen in many cases — health care could disappear."

But there are big sticking points, such as how much money would the companies contribute. Cole suggests they might pay 60 to 70 cents on the dollar, but given rising health care costs, the union wants more.

Earlier this year, the United Steelworkers cut a similar deal with Goodyear Tire & Rubber Co., and it's now seen as a possible model for Detroit.

Steelworkers Vice President Thomas Conway ran the union's negotiations. He says after Goodyear initially offered 40 cents, then 50 cents on the dollar, the union went out on strike.

Without enough money, the Steelworkers worried the trust fund might run dry.

Eventually, the company agreed to pay more than 80 cents on the dollar.

Another sticking point in the talks was how to pay for a trust fund.

Goodyear wanted to use company stock. But given that Goodyear had threatened bankruptcy a few years back, the Steelworkers insisted on cash.

"This isn't really something we think we had the stomach for," says Conway. "I don't want to have to watch Goodyear's stock every day."

The car companies have also talked of using stock and auto workers are equally skeptical.

Ron Lare is a Ford worker in Dearborn, Mich., who retires next year. He's also part of a dissident union group called Soldiers of Solidarity. Lare says taking stock makes no sense.

"It's astonishing to me that either the company or the union could even try to persuade members that the company is in trouble, therefore you should rely on the company stock," says Lare.

But workers also acknowledge their employers need help. Charles Yates retired in June after 31 years at an Illinois plant that makes the Ford Taurus. He's worried about the future of his health care, but he's willing to consider a trust fund.

"It sounds like it could be a good idea," he says. "Part of it is getting some of the financial burden off the company so they can get some liquid cash."

And so, the thinking goes, companies could use that savings to develop new products and become more competitive.

Of course, selling all this to union members won't be easy. No one expects a strike. But the last time Ford workers were asked to reduce their own health care benefits, they almost voted it down.

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