After 10 years, the military's policy for gays is as contentious as ever. Neal Conan talks with a retired army general and a former navy admiral who came out of the closet, hoping their disclosure will prompt a change. Hear a discussion on the future of gays in the military on the next Talk of the Nation.
(Ret.) Brigadier General Keith Kerr
*31-year career in the Army, retired in 1995
(Ret.) Rear Admiral Alan Steinman
* 28-year career in the Coast Guard, retired in 1997
(Ret.) Rear Admiral John Hutson
*Former judge advocate general for the Navy responsible for enforcing "don't ask, don't tell" policy
*28-year career in Navy; retired in 2000
*Now dean of the Franklin Pierce Law Center in Concord, N.H.
*Originator of "don't ask, don't tell" policy
*Professor of sociology at Northwestern University in Evanston, Ill.