For some people, chile peppers are wild enough when they're encountered in southwestern cooking.
But Scott Simon and crew recently set off to find chiles in the wilds of the Sonoran desert.
Their tour guide was Kevin Dahl, executive director of Native Seeds Search, based in Tucson.
They went to Arizona's Wild Chile Botanical Preserve for a closer look at chiltepine... and found out just how tough it is to track down a little red seed the size of a ladybug.
A brief look at Scott Simon's search for the chiltepine.