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Slate's Sports Nut: The Overrated USC Trojans

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January 3, 2006

Is the University of Southern California's undefeated football team as mighty as conventional wisdom suggests? On the eve of the Rose Bowl, Alex Chadwick talks with Slate contributor Jonathan Chait, senior editor at The New Republic, about whether the current Trojan lineup represents one of the greatest teams in college history. USC plays the University of Texas in Wednesday's championship game. Both teams have been undefeated this season.

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ALEX CHADWICK, host:

This is DAY TO DAY from NPR News. I'm Alex Chadwick.

Tomorrow's Rose Bowl game in Pasadena looks like a great one between two dominant college football teams, the University of Texas Longhorns and the Trojans of the University of Southern California. But is this going to feature the greatest college team ever? Are the Trojans that good? They are defending two-time national champions. In fact, the sages at the sports TV network ESPN recently imagined how USC would match up against the greatest college teams in history. The short answer: USC would beat them all. Not so fast, says Jonathan Chait, writing on the, in his view, overrated Trojans in the online magazine Slate.

Jonathan Chait, welcome to DAY TO DAY. Give us some examples of great historical match-ups that ESPN thinks USC would win.

JONATHAN CHAIT reporting:

I actually first came across this when I saw that they imagined what would happen if the Trojans played the 1997 Michigan Wolverines. I know this because Michigan's my alma mater. I'm a Michigan fan. And they decided that USC would win, 49-14. Now that was a Michigan team that had the only defensive player ever to win a Heisman trophy and gave up less than 9 points a game, 23 interceptions and five touchdowns. It was just an awesome, awesome defense. And the idea that USC would score 49 points on them made me think, `Wait. Something kind of funny is going on here.'

CHADWICK: Something's happening with these kind of expectations of USC.

CHAIT: Right.

CHADWICK: And there are other examples you cite.

CHAIT: Right. I thought what was the most extreme was the 1991 Washington Huskies. That was just an absolutely awesome team. They just destroyed every team they played. They didn't have any close games. They won their games by an average margin of 42-to-9.

CHADWICK: So what is it that leads sportswriters and sports analysts to, in your view, so overrate USC? There are--in fact, you identify some kind of traits of overrated teams.

CHAIT: The elements of overrated teams--I think you find this kind of year in and year out. There are a couple, and the first is that they tend to be better on offense than on defense. People tend to put more weight on offense than defense in gauging who's a good team.

CHADWICK: It's more fun to watch. It's more spectacular.

CHAIT: It's more fun to watch...

CHADWICK: Yeah.

CHAIT: ...and it makes for better highlights.

CHADWICK: Yeah.

CHAIT: So offensive teams tend to capture the imagination in a way that defensive teams don't. Nonetheless, there's more to a team than just offense. Defense matters as well. So I would say if you had a team that was the opposite of USC, if you'd have had a team that a pedestrian offense and a fantastic defense, they would not be regarded anywhere nearly as high as USC is.

CHADWICK: What about the Longhorns then? If USC is overrated, is Texas underrated? And are you saying here, on a national broadcast, that Texas is going to win?

CHAIT: No, of course not. I would say the teams are pretty equal. I would give USC a slightly better chance of winning. If you want to know what I think, not that I'm an oddsmaker and do not take money out of your house and put it on the game based on what I'm telling you...

CHADWICK: Hold on. That's the next interview, but go on.

CHAIT: This is a legal disclaimer. USC was not as good as Texas over the course of the year. Texas had a slightly better off--it's basically the same offense and a considerably better defense over the course of the year. Now USC had a lot of injuries on their defense over the course of the year, and that was a big reason that their defense underperformed. And a lot of those injured players should be back by tomorrow night's game, which would mean that the USC team that takes the field against Texas might be much better than the one that played over the course of the year.

CHADWICK: So what are you saying? Texas or USC?

CHAIT: I'm not going to say. It's a close match-up.

CHADWICK: Opinion--and I stress that word to all the Trojans fans here in LA--from Jonathan Chait. He's a senior editor at The New Republic. You'll find his article on the Trojans at slate.com.

Jonathan, thank you.

CHAIT: Thank you.

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