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Democrats Follow Different 'Day After' Playbooks

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Democrats Follow Different 'Day After' Playbooks

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A day after scoring a bigger-than-expected win in North Carolina and coming within 20,000 votes of victory in Indiana, Barack Obama's campaign is relatively quiet Wednesday. Meanwhile, Sen. Hillary Clinton holds a town hall meeting in West Virginia. She is also meeting with superdelegates on Capitol Hill and holding a fundraiser.


Now the day after for the Democratic presidential candidates. Yesterday, Hillary Clinton narrowly won the Indiana primary and she lost big to Barack Obama in North Carolina. Today Clinton was out to prove that the Democratic race is not over. In a few minutes, we'll ask Senator Clinton's chief spokesman how the campaign plans to stay viable against some tough odds. First, to our reporters covering the race.


We're joined now by NPR's David Greene, who is traveling with the Clinton campaign in West Virginia today, and by NPR's Don Gonyea, who's been covering the Obama campaign. He joins us from Chicago.

Welcome to you both.

DAVID GREENE: Hi, Melissa.

DON GONYEA: Hi to both of you guys.

BLOCK: And David, let's start with you first. What was Senator Clinton doing in West Virginia today?

GREENE: Well, she wasn't supposed to be doing anything. We got back from Indiana early, early this morning, and she was supposed to have a down day, but then her campaign, before all the reporters went to sleep, said she's getting up early and we're heading out to West Virginia. And she gave a speech in Shepherdstown, West Virginia, on a gorgeous sunny day, and then came and spoke to reporters. And that's basically the message she said: she's still in this and she thinks people should keep paying attention to this race between her and Barack Obama. Here's a little of what Hillary Clinton said.

Senator HILLARY CLINTON (Democratic, New York): What matters is what strengths you have going into the general election, who you're going to be able to bring to your side, what the electoral map will look like. Look, if we had the rules that the Republicans have, I'd already be the nominee.

GREENE: So Hillary Clinton basically saying there's a lot to still fight for, for her campaign. And Melissa, we also learned today that she has loaned herself more than $6 million, which her campaign says is another signal that she is in this and in this fight; also of course a signal that she has some catching up to do when it comes to the money games against Barack Obama.

BLOCK: And at the same time, David, she comes out of Indiana with a far narrower margin than they would have hoped.

GREENE: That's right. And the way they are talking about those races last night, they're saying that they really caught up in North Carolina. They were down by some 25 points and made that a closer race, and that Barack Obama was the favorite early on in Indiana and they were able to beat him. But the argument from the Clinton camp is that it was a good night, even though she lost one of two and only won Indiana by a bit.

BLOCK: Let's turn to Don Gonyea now. And Don, as we mentioned, a down day for Barack Obama, no campaign events scheduled. What's the plan for him?

DON GONYEA: On Friday he's off to Oregon for two days of events there, and that primary in Oregon isn't until May 20th. He's not going to be spending a lot time in West Virginia, which holds its primary next Tuesday. Again, the point there being they don't want Hillary Clinton to be able to set up West Virginia as the next big showdown state. The Obama campaign says it will compete there, but West Virginia's coming up, Oregon is important, and they'll be in all these places.

BLOCK: Don, you mentioned wooing the superdelegates, and there has been some movement in the superdelegates today.

GONYEA: The Obama campaign has announced four more superdelegates have come out in support of him. And they fully expect that they are going to be able to nail down this nomination perhaps in the next couple of weeks.

BLOCK: And David Greene, the Hillary Clinton campaign has picked up one more superdelegate, Heath Shuler, congressman from North Carolina. What are they saying about the superdelegate fight and how they might convince superdelegates to come on board?

GREENE: Their argument really seems to be coming into focus, Melissa. And Hillary Clinton is sitting down with some undecided superdelegates today, and their message is electability. Hillary Clinton is going to be telling these superdelegates, look, she is not doing well among African-Americans. Barack Obama is winning those voters, but those are voters that will come to the Democratic side no matter who the nominee is in the fall. The voters Hillary Clinton is picking up, white working class, less affluent voters, the kinds of people who might vote Republican and go for a candidate like John McCain, she's the candidate who could hold on to those voters in the fall; that's why they should keep giving her a look. And we'll see if superdelegates respond to what amounts to a plea for patience from her.

BLOCK: Okay. David and Don, thanks so much.

GONYEA: All right, you're welcome.

GREENE: Thank you, Melissa.

BLOCK: That's David Greene covering the Clinton campaign and Don Gonyea covering the Obama campaign.

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It was among the most dramatic turns yet in the Democratic presidential race, and it may turn out to be the last.

On a night when Sen. Hillary Clinton's comeback campaign seemed poised for another triumph — one that would vault her into true contention once again — it was Sen. Barack Obama's campaign that surprised instead. He defied polls and expectations in both the North Carolina and Indiana primaries, and his renewed vigor as a competitor carried the first-term senator from Illinois to the brink of the Democratic nomination.

Obama won the last large state to vote, North Carolina, by an impressive 14 percentage points. His vote margin of more than 230,000 in the 10th most populous state exceeded the margin by which Clinton won Pennsylvania, the sixth most populous, two weeks ago. He was projected to take 15 more delegates than Clinton of the 115 available in North Carolina, a net gain that would eclipse the 12 she gained in Pennsylvania.

"It's good to win a big state," the Illinois senator said to a cheering crowd in Raleigh, the state capital. Indeed, for his campaign, it was almost a do-or-die necessity. He had last won a top 10 state on Feb. 5.

By winning North Carolina big, Obama reversed what had been a downward spiral in his campaign in recent weeks. While he surely will hear more about his long association with the Rev. Jeremiah Wright in the future, that controversy will apparently not be enough to cost him the Democratic nomination. About half the primary voters in each state told exit pollsters the Wright matter had been important to them. Of these, most voted for Clinton. Of those who said it was not important, an even larger majority voted for Obama.

For Clinton, the failure to break through in North Carolina may have meant the loss of her last best opportunity to halt her rival's march to the nomination. She put a brave face on it when she spoke late in the evening to her supporters in Indiana, where she claimed victory even though it would be another two hours before it was clear she had won. After watching a wide early lead disappear, and after waiting six hours for Lake County, near Chicago, to report, she held on to win by about 22,000 votes out of more than 1.2 million cast.

The dwindling of that lead in Indiana, which took place throughout the night as Obama was racing ahead in North Carolina, contributed to a sense of disappointment on the evening for backers of the New York senator and former first lady. Most recent polls in both states had shown her on the march, winning easily in Indiana and holding her rival to a modest margin in North Carolina. There had been speculation she could win both states. Early waves of exit polls pointed in this direction.

And while she spoke of going on to the next primaries in West Virginia and Kentucky — and on to November — Clinton on this night lacked the exuberance she had shown after winning Pennsylvania and Ohio. Indeed, she was not the fiery performer she has been in recent rallies. She came to the stage and almost immediately began speaking, and after her remarks did not linger to enjoy the adulation of the crowd.

Her husband, former President Bill Clinton, stood behind her looking sunburnt and subdued. Her daughter, Chelsea, who has accompanied her through months of intense campaigning, was at her side. And the rally mixed the words of a winning night with the mood and atmosphere of a campaign nearing its end.

NBC reported that Clinton had canceled plans to appear on the morning news programs, but the Clinton camp said this was not true. Initial reports that she would not have public events until Thursday were contradicted when the campaign announced she would leave for West Virginia at 9 a.m. Wednesday.

But speculation began that she would be reassessing her situation in the hours and days ahead. Her campaign has refused to confirm or deny that the Clintons have made another loan to keep the campaign afloat financially. Her campaign will need another big infusion of contributions, as it received after Pennsylvania, if it is to continue. The states ahead are not delegate rich or especially attractive to media coverage, and the Obama lead among pledged delegates is growing once again. (It stands at about 160.)

Much may depend on the reaction to these latest primaries among superdelegates who have yet to commit to either candidate. Some 270 remain on the sidelines, and a movement among them to one candidate or the other might well determine the next phase of this historically lengthy campaign.

Obama has continued to whittle down the Clinton lead in superdelegates, which stood at nearly 100 in early February and at just 15 this week. He has received twice as many new superdelegate commitments as Clinton since Ohio, and twice as many since Pennsylvania. His latest rebound is likely to bring more to his side.

The superdelegates will be the focus for both campaigns now more than ever, because after this week's voting, only six events remain with a total of just 217 delegates at stake among them.

It has been clear for some time that neither candidate could reach the 2,025 threshold for nomination without superdelegates. But Obama is now within roughly 200 of that number. So a near-even split in the remaining pledged delegates, coupled with less than 40 percent of the remaining superdelegates, would make him the nominee.

Rather than dispute this math, the Clinton campaign this week has asked news organizations to stop referring to the 2,025 number. They contend that the addition of the Florida and Michigan delegations will raise that number to 2,209. The status of the two delegations is pending before the Democratic National Committee panel that banished them for holding early primaries, and that panel is to meet on May 31.

This week's voting continued a pattern by which Obama has dominated in Atlantic states from Georgia north through the Carolinas to Maryland and Delaware, while Clinton has done better in the industrial Great Lakes states of Indiana, Ohio, Michigan (where Obama was not on the ballot), Pennsylvania and New York. It also provided fresh evidence of the divisions in the party over race, gender, age, education, income and religion.

Both candidates pledged their support once again to the eventual nominee. Both have tried in recent days to renew their concentration of fire on Republican John McCain, his party's presumed nominee. But McCain has continued to enjoy the spectacle of his two prospective challengers devoting so much of their time and assets to their contest with each other.

It is a contest begun shortly after the midterm elections of 2006 — what Clinton in Indiana called "a long journey" — and one that may finally be approaching its end.