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LIANE HANSEN, host:

This is WEEKEND EDITION from NPR News. I'm Liane Hansen.

And joining us is Puzzlemaster Will Shortz. Hey, Will.

WILL SHORTZ: Hi, Liane.

HANSEN: Well, we're in the middle of a two-week challenge. You're going to give the challenge again after we play on the air today. It's a creative challenge. And for our player today, we went back into the entries for the puzzle the previous week. It was - banjo is to ferns as pecan is to tiger. And we went and picked a second winner from that challenge. She's Colleen Murphy of Louisville, Kentucky. Hi, Colleen.

Ms. COLLEEN MURPHY: Hi, how are you?

HANSEN: Good. What do you do in Louisville?

Ms. MURPHY: I'm an English teacher, as a matter of fact.

HANSEN: Oh, well, a word woman. Are you a puzzle person?

Ms. MURPHY: Yes, absolutely, I am.

HANSEN: Do you do word games and puzzles with your students?

Ms. MURPHY: It's something that I've been wanting to do more of, which is actually why I tuned in the other day.

HANSEN: Oh. Well - did you find us at NPR.org?

Ms. MURPHY: Yes. Well, I knew about the radio show and so I turned it on to listen, to get some ideas for new puzzles to do with more of my students. And I was frantically scribbling things down in the parking lot on the way to church and then went home and looked it up. And, of course, there's this whole website with a wonderful archive. And I didn't need to be scribbling things down in the parking lot.

HANSEN: Man, you are so excited and ready to go. I'm not going to stall us any longer. Let's play. Will, meet Colleen; Colleen, meet Will.

SHORTZ: Hi, Colleen. Since we're in the middle of summer vacation time, I have brought a puzzle involving national parks. Every answer today is the name of a U.S. national park. I'll give you an anagram of the name, you name the park. For example, if I said search, S-E-A-R-C-H, you would say arches, as in Arches National Park in Utah.

HANSEN: Do you know your national parks, Colleen?

Ms. MURPHY: I will now.

HANSEN: We will now. Okay.

SHORTZ: Number one is nailed, N-A-I-L-E-D, and it's in Alaska.

Ms. MURPHY: Uh-oh.

HANSEN: Uh-oh. I'll help you out.

SHORTZ: You know this on, Liane?

HANSEN: Yeah, I'll help you out, Colleen. Denali.

SHORTZ: Denali, D-E-N-A-L-I, good. All right. Here's number two: ace girl A-C-E G-I-R-L, and it's a national park in Montana.

HANSEN: Well, try to rearrange those words.

SHORTZ: Just rearrange those letters. It makes a seven-letter word. It starts with G.

HANSEN: Think of a huge piece of ice.

Ms. MURPHY: Glacier.

HANSEN: Yes.

SHORTZ: Glacier National Park in Montana, good. Your next one is moist eye, M-O-I-S-T E-Y-E and the park is in California.

HANSEN: Begins with a Y.

SHORTZ: Begins with a Y, good.

Ms. MURPHY: Yosemite.

SHORTZ: Yosemite, you got it. Nice job. Your next one is strong hips, S-T-R-O-N-G H-I-P-S. The park is in Arkansas. It's a two-word name. The first word has three letters, the second has seven. And I'll give you a hint: the initials of the two words are H.S.

Ms. MURPHY: I should know this. I have family in Arkansas.

HANSEN: Well, think of something that is a place where people go and take the waters. Do you know that phrase? Are you too young?

Ms. MURPHY: Hot Springs.

HANSEN: Yes, Hot Springs.

SHORTZ: Hot Springs, good one.

Ms. MURPHY: Yes.

SHORTZ: All right. Here's your next one: career talk, C-A-R-E-E-R T-A-L-K. It's a park in Oregon and the initials of the two words are C.L.

HANSEN: Is the last word lake?

SHORTZ: Yes. It's a lake at the top of a mountain.

(Soundbite of laughter)

HANSEN: You also find one on the moon.

Ms. MURPHY: Crater.

HANSEN: Yes.

SHORTZ: Crater Lake is it. All right, try this one: save ledger, S-A-V-E L-E-D-G-E-R. It's a park in Florida and it's a single word.

Ms. MURPHY: Uh-oh.

SHORTZ: Starts with an E.

Ms. MURPHY: Everglades.

HANSEN: Yeah.

SHORTZ: Everglades is it, good. And here's your last one: rare munition, R-A-R-E M-U-N-I-T-I-O-N. It's in Washington state. And the initials of the two words are M.R.

Ms. MURPHY: Mount Rainier.

HANSEN: Yeah.

SHORTZ: Mount Rainier, so quick. Nice job.

HANSEN: You got it. That was hard, Colleen.

Ms. MURPHY: All right. Geography's not my subject.

HANSEN: You know what, it's not mine either, but I think between us we worked it out with the words.

Ms. MURPHY: Excellent.

HANSEN: Yes, excellent. You were a fantastic player. So...

Ms. MURPHY: Thank you.

HANSEN: Yeah. Yeah. And to tell you'll what you get for playing our puzzle today, we have an author whose new novel, "The Thieves of Manhattan," takes aim at the publishing industry. Here's Adam Langer.

Mr. ADAM LANGER (AUTHOR, "The Thieves of Manhattan"): For playing our puzzle today, you'll get a WEEKEND EDITION lapel pin, the "Scrabble Deluxe Edition" from Parker Brothers, the book series, "Will Shortz Presents KenKen" Volumes 1, 2 and 3 from St. Martin's Press, one of Will Shortz's "Puzzlemaster Decks of Riddle and Challenges" from Chronicle Books, and a CD compilation of NPR's Sunday Puzzles.

HANSEN: So what do you think, Colleen?

Ms. MURPHY: Thats great. Thats going to give me plenty of new material.

HANSEN: That's true. It will. Tell us what member station you listen to before you go.

Ms. MURPHY: I listen to WFPL.

HANSEN: Colleen Murphy in Louisville, Kentucky, thanks so much for being my partner today on the puzzle.

Ms. MURPHY: Thank you.

HANSEN: All right. Now, Will, back to that creative challenge. People have been working on it; it's a two-week challenge. Please repeat it.

Mr. SHORTZ: Yes. I'd like you to write a riddle starting: What's the difference between, in which the answer involves a spoonerism. For example, what's the difference between an iceberg and a groom at a stable? One crushes boats while the other brushes coats. Or whats the difference between a fisherman and an angry school child? One baits his hooks, the other hates his books.

(Soundbite of laughter)

Mr. SHORTZ: So write your "Whats the Difference Between Riddle with a Spoonerism." Entries will be judged on originality, cleverness and naturalness of syntax. Ill judge the entries and the winner will play puzzle on the air next week.

HANSEN: Well, when youve been able to riddle us this, go to our website, NPR.org/puzzle, and click on the Submit Your Answer link. And this time we are accepting more than one entry per person. Our deadline is Thursday, August 5th at 3 P.M. Eastern Time. Please include a phone number where we can reach you at about that time. We'll call you if youre the winner and you'll get to play on the air with the puzzle editor of The New York Times and WEEKEND EDITION's puzzlemaster, Will Shortz.

Will, thanks a lot.

Mr. SHORTZ: Thanks, Liane.

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