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DAVID BIANCULLI, host:

Florida's Board of Executive Clemency ruled yesterday on a 41-year-old case -awarding a posthumous pardon to Jim Morrison of The Doors on charges of exposing himself while performing on stage in Miami in 1969.

Outgoing Florida Governor Charlie Crist had requested the pardon and the clemency board supported it unanimously.

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Mr. JIM MORRISON (Musician): (Singing) Yeah!

BIANCULLI: Jim Morrison, lead singer of The Doors, was its rock 'n roll poet, its sex god, its heart and soul. But instrumentally, the distinctive sound of The Doors was based on the keyboard playing of Ray Manzarek, whose classic organ solos have just as much drive and punch as Morrison's screams.

In 1998, Terry Gross spoke with Ray Manzarek. He was seated at the piano. She asked him about the infamous onstage incident in Miami.

TERRY GROSS, host:

One of the really big stories in the lore of The Doors is the concert in Miami where...

Mr. RAY MANZAREK (Musician): Yes it is.

GROSS: ...where many people say that Jim Morrison exposed himself and...

Mr. MANZAREK: Yes, they do.

GROSS: ...and you say he didn't exactly. But he had seen The Living Theatre a few days before and that was like the theater group was experimenting with, you know, breaking down the fourth wall and taking off their clothes in the middle of theater performances.

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GROSS: Confronting the audience and so on.

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GROSS: And he was influenced by that.

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Mr. MANZAREK: Yes, he was. We're in Miami. It's hot and sweaty. It's a Tennessee Williams night. It's a swamp and it's a yuck - a horrible kind of place, a seaplane hangar - and 14,000 people are packed in there, and they're sweaty, and Jim has seen The Living Theatre and he's going to do his version of The Living Theatre in front of - this is the first time he's been home. He's was born in Melbourne, Florida. This is his - virtually his hometown and he's going to show these Florida people what psychedelic West Coast shamanism and confrontation is all about.

He takes his shirt off in the middle of the set and says, you know, you people haven't come to hear a rock 'n' roll - he's drunk as a skunk and he didn't tell any of us what he was going to do. If only he have told somebody. Says, you didn't come to hear a rock 'n' roll band play some pretty good songs. What you came - you came to see something, didn't you? And he, they're all going...

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Mr. MANZAREK: He says, what you come to see? You came to see something that you've never seen before, something greater than you've ever seen. What do you want? What can I do for you? And the audience is going like this, you know...

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Mr. MANZAREK: I'm playing the piano right now inside the strings. That's how the audience, it's just rumbling and rumbling. And he says OK, how about if I show you my C word. And all the audience goes screaming crazy. It was like madness and Jim takes his shirt off, holds it in front of him, reaches behind it and starts fiddling around down there and you wonder what is he doing? And I'm thinking, oh God, he's going to take it off. And the audience is getting crazier and crazier. And then Jim whips the shirt out to the side, he said did you see it, did you see it? Look, I just showed it to you. Watch, I'm going to show it to you. Now keep your eyes on it folks and he whips it out...

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Mr. MANZAREK: Ooh, off to the side again.

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Mr. MANZAREK: Off to the side again.

(Soundbite of piano music) Mr. MANZAREK: Off to the side and says, I showed it to you. You saw it, didn't you? You saw it and you loved it and you people loved seeing it. Isn't it what you wanted to see? And sure enough, it's what they wanted to see.

They hallucinated. I swear, the guy never did it. He never whipped it out. It was like, it was like in the West Coast Jesus on a tortilla. It was one of those mass hallucinations. It was I don't want to say the vision of Lourdes, because only Bernadette saw that, but the other people believed and maybe other people said - it was one of those kind of religious hallucinations, except it was Dionysus bringing forth, calling forth snakes.

GROSS: And then you say he said to the audience, come closer, come on down here get with us, man.

Mr. MANZAREK: Oh, yeah, yeah. Come on, yeah, oh, come on. Sure, come on. Join us. Join us on stage. And eventually, the - sure, and they started coming on a rickety little stage, and the entire stage collapsed. Sure.

GROSS: In your memoir you write a little bit, you write a lot, really, about how The Doors developed their sound and how you developed your sound as the keyboard player with the group. Let's take an example...

Mr. MANZAREK: Mm-hmm.

GROSS: ...of one of those songs. Why don't we look at "Light My Fire," which is...

Mr. MANZAREK: Sure.

GROSS: ...probably the most famous or one of the most famous.

Mr. MANZAREK: The most famous Doors song.

GROSS: Sure. Yeah.

Mr. MANZAREK: Yeah, the most famous Doors song. You know, Robby Krieger is actually the writer of "Light My Fire." So Robby came in with a song, he said I got a new song called "Light My Fire." He plays the song for us and it's kind of a Sonny and Cher kind of...

(Singing) Da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da. Light my fire.

And it's like, OK. OK. Good chords change - what are the chord changes there? And he shows me an A minor...

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Mr. MANZAREK: ...to an F sharp minor.

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Mr. MANZAREK: And that's like, whoa, that's hip.

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Mr. MANZAREK: That's cool.

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Mr. MANZAREK: And then...

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Mr. MANZAREK: And that's when he went into the Sonny and Cher part.

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Mr. MANZAREK: (Singing) Da, da, da, da, da, da, da. Then we said, no, no, no, no, no. We're not going to do the Sonny and Cher kind of song here, man. That was popular at the time.

Densmore says look, we've got to do a Latin kind of beat here. Let's do something in kind of a Latin groove.

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Mr. MANZAREK: And I'm doing this left-hand line. So John is doing...

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Mr. MANZAREK: And we set up this Latin groove and then go into a hard rock four...

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Mr. MANZAREK: And Robby's only got one verse, he needs a second verse and Morrison says OK, let me think about it for a second. And Jim comes up with the classic line: and our love becomes a funeral pyre. You know, you know that it would be untrue, you know that I would be a liar if I were to say to you girl, we couldn't get much higher, is Robby's.

Then Jim comes, the time to hesitate is through. In other words, seize the moment, seize the spiritual LSD moment. The time to hesitate is through. No time to wallow in the mire. Try now, we can only lose. Whoa, that's kind of heavy. Try now, we can only lose - meaning the worst thing that can happen to you is death, and our love becomes a funeral pyre. Our love is consumed in the fires of agnee. It's like, God, Jim. What a great - great verse, man.

So we've got verse, chorus, verse, chorus, and then it's time for solos. So anyway, the verse goes...

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Mr. MANZAREK: You know how that goes. You've heard it a million times. And then into the chorus...

(Singing) Come on baby light my fire.

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Mr. MANZAREK: So it's time, then, for some solos. We've done a verse, chorus, verse, chorus. Now what do we do? We've got to play some solos. We've got to stretch out. Here's where John Coltrane comes in. Here's where The Doors' jazz background - John's a jazz drummer. I'm a jazz piano player. Robby's a flamenco guitar player. And we all said...

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Mr. MANZAREK: You know, we're in A minor. Let's see. What do we do?

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Mr. MANZAREK: (Singing) Da, da, da-da, da.

It ends up on an E, so how about...

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Mr. MANZAREK: "My Favorite Things," John Coltrane. It's "My Favorite Things," except Coltrane's doing it in D minor.

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Mr. MANZAREK: But the left hand is exactly the same thing. It's in three, one, two, three, one, two, three, A minor. The Doors' "Light My Fire" is in four. We're going from A minor to B minor.

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Mr. MANZAREK: So it's the same thing as...

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Mr. MANZAREK: And that's how the solo comes about. And then we just go...

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Mr. MANZAREK: So it's John Coltrane's "My Favorite Things," and Coltrane's "Ole Coltrane." And then...

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Mr. MANZAREK: That's the chord structure. Then I would solo over it...

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Mr. MANZAREK: Robby would solo over it, and at the end of our two solos, we'd go into a...

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Mr. MANZAREK: ...a three against four.

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Mr. MANZAREK: And I'm keeping the left hand going exactly as it goes, and that hasn't changed. That's the four. On top of it is three.

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Mr. MANZAREK: And into the turnaround.

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Mr. MANZAREK: And we're back at verse one and verse two.

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Mr. MANZAREK: And we're back into our Latin groove. So it's basically a jazz structure. It's verse chorus, verse chorus, state the theme, take a long solo, come back to stating the theme again. And that's how "Light My Fire" came about.

GROSS: Oh.

Mr. MANZAREK: That's the creation of "Light My Fire."

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Mr. MORRISON: (Singing) You know that it would be untrue. You know that I would be a liar if I was to say to you, girl, we couldn't get much higher. Come on baby, light my fire. Come on baby, light my fire. Try to set the night on fire.

The time to hesitate is through.

BIANCULLI: That's "Light My Fire," and Ray Manzarek, keyboard player of The Doors, explaining it all for you, talking to Terry Gross in 1998.

The lead singer of The Doors, Jim Morrison, was granted a pardon yesterday for an alleged onstage indecency incident in 1969.

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