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The Challenger anniversary comes on a Friday morning, which is when we hear from StoryCorps, and today we have memories of Ron McNair, one of the astronauts killed on the Challenger. McNair was only the second African-American to go into space. His brother Carl told a friend at StoryCorps that Ron showed the courage he would need to get to space as a boy growing up in South Carolina.

Mr. CARL MCNAIR: When he was nine years old, Ron, without my parents or myself knowing his whereabouts, decided to take a mile walk from our home down to the library, which was, of course, a public library, but not so public for blacks folks...

Mr. VERNON SKIPPER: OK.

Mr. MCNAIR: ...when you're talking about 1959. So as he was walking in there, all these folks were staring at him because they were white folk only. And they were looking at him, saying, you know, who is this Negro?

(Soundbite of laughter)

Mr. MCNAIR: So he politely positioned himself in line to check out his books.

Well, this old(ph) librarian, she says, this library is not for coloreds. He said, well, I would like to check out these books. She says, young man, if you don't leave this library right now, I'm going to call the police.

So he just propped himself up on the counter and sat there and said, I'll wait.

So she called the police and subsequently called my mother. The police came down, two burly guys come and say, well, where's the disturbance? And she pointed to the little nine-year-old boy sitting up on the counter.

And he says, ma'am, what's the problem?

So my mother - and meanwhile, she was call - she comes down there praying the whole way there: Lordy, Jesus, please don't let them put my child in jail. And my mother asks the librarian, what's the problem?

Well, he wanted to check out the books, and you know your son shouldn't be down here.

And the police officer said, why don't you just give the kid the books?

And my mother said, he'll take good care of them.

And reluctantly the librarian gave Ron the books. And my mother said, what do you say?

He said, thank you, ma'am.

(Soundbite of laughter)

Mr. MCNAIR: Later on, as youngsters, a show came on TV called "Star Trek". Now, "Star Trek" showed the future where there were black folk and white folk working together.

Mr. SKIPPER: Right.

Mr. MCNAIR: And I looked at it as science fiction, 'cause that wasn't going to happen, really. But Ronald saw it as science possibility.

Mr. SKIPPER: Um-hum.

Mr. MCNAIR: You know, he came up during a time when there was Neal Armstrong and all of those guys. So how was a colored boy from South Carolina wearing glasses, never flew a plane, how was he going to become an astronaut?

But Ron was one who didn't accept societal norms as being his norm. I mean that was for other people. And he got to be aboard his own Starship Enterprise.

(Soundbite of music)

MONTAGNE: That's Carl McNair, brother of astronaut Ronald McNair, one of seven who died aboard the shuttle Challenger. The library that Carl talked about will be dedicated to his brother tomorrow.

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