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Who Wants To Be The GOAT?
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Who Wants To Be The GOAT?
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And as they argue over the words hard, soft and flex, let's consider another sports term, goat, which has been on the mind of commentator Frank Deford.

FRANK DEFORD: Always the worse thing you could call an athlete was goat. He's the chump who cost his team by dropping a fly ball, making a turnover, fumbling.

Bill Gallo, the beloved New York Daily News cartoonist, would draw a portrait of the goat of every World Series game, depicting the poor stiff with horns for ears. In fact, I suspect the designation of the goat as the figure of ridicule derives from the medieval sign of the horn for a cuckolded husband.

Would it surprise you then to hear that now the best thing you can say about an athlete is that he is the GOAT in his sport? Bah. But the new goat comes without horns. Rather, its an acronym and probably traces back to Muhammad Ali: I am the greatest. Hence, to Alis Greatest of All Time, Incorporated, get it: G-O-A-T.

This is, of course, a subject that sports fans devour. Whos the best ever? Most recently, for example, it was pretty well settled that Michael Phelps had become the GOAT in swimming. But dont jump on the GOAT bandwagon too fast. Tiger Woods was the GOAT going-to-be in golf, but Jack Nicklaus still holds the crown. And remember when LeBron James?

(Soundbite of laughter)

DEFORD: Never mind.

Still, nowhere is there a more spirited GOAT discussion than in tennis. Not so long ago, it was pretty much the consensus that Roger Federer had passed Big Bill Tilden and Rod Laver and Pete Sampras. He set the record for most Grand Slams; he was classically brilliant, the universal champion. Only, an embarrassing little hitch developed.

Another player, Rafael Nadal, kept beating Federer. How can you be the Greatest of All Time if youre not even the greatest in your time? Federers GOAT defenders point out that the reason Nadal has a better head-to-head record is because Nadal is fabulous on clay, but Federer is terrific on all surfaces so he gets to the clay-court finals, where Nadal beats him.

But especially when Federer was at his peak, Nadal would lose in earlier rounds on other surfaces, so Federer didnt get to sweeten his head-to-head score against his rival. Besides, Federer has set records for superior consistency which are unreal: Making 18 of 19 Grand Slam finals in a row, making 23-straight Grand Slam semis, and 28 quarterfinals and still counting.

Thats sort of combining the best of the streaks of Joe DiMaggio and Cal Ripken. But, wait. Nadal is five years younger and if his body holds up, he could easily pass Federers record for most Grand Slam victories.

So, its undoubtedly a GOAT situation weve never had before - in any sport. We know the greatest tennis player of all time is playing right now; this week, in fact, at Wimbledon. We just dont know who he is.

INSKEEP: Commentator Frank Deford joins us each Wednesday from G-O-A-T. Oh, wait a minute - thats WSHU in Fairfield, Connecticut.

It's MORNING EDITION from NPR News. Im Steve Inskeep.


And Im Renee Montagne.

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