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This is WEEKEND EDITION from NPR News. I'm Scott Simon. There's a lot to love about historical fiction, not just heaving bodices and poised lances. It's a genre that gives flesh, heart and occasional humor to historical figures. It can be a good yarn that also makes you wonder: how much of this is true, long after you're done.

Madeline Miller has written historical fiction, including "The Song of Achilles," which won the Orange Prize for fiction. She's recommending a short list of summer reading for those who might want to wander in the past. Madeline Miller joins us from the studios of Swarthmore College in Pennsylvania. Thanks very much for being with us.

MADELINE MILLER: Thank you so much for having me. It's nice to be here.

SIMON: I gather your love of historical fiction predates even when you started writing.

MILLER: Yes. It does. I mean, I love being immersed in another world where you're sort of learning all the details of what life was like for people in totally different cultures and different times.

SIMON: And to your mind, how does historical fiction do this in a way that non-fiction - well, I don't want to say doesn't, but does in a different way?

MILLER: In some sense I think you have more freedom when you're doing historical fiction because you can fully imagine a world that is likely instead of kind of the readers constantly thinking, well, did that really happen? Did that really happen?

SIMON: The "Song of Achilles" is based on "The Iliad," which is already a little apocryphal, if we can put it that way. Do you have a ratio you prefer of history to fiction?

MILLER: I like a good mix of both. I was really looking for books that had kind of the perfect balance. I mean, I think it's fun to really dig in and learn all the cool little details about, for instance, you know, what types of poisons people used on their arrows.

SIMON: Forgive me. You can't just say, and then he smeared some poison on the arrow?

(LAUGHTER)

MILLER: Well, you could but it's much more interesting to know where he got that poison, I think, and what it's going to do to you as opposed to the poison his neighbor might be using. But the best research is always invisible. You don't see the author hunched over their library books. You know, you really just completely enter the world.

SIMON: You're recommending some recent releases that people might want to read this summer. Let's begin with Andrew Miller's noteworthy "Pure."

MILLER: It is a terrific book set in 1785 Paris and it revolves around the cemetery and church Les Innocents, which was basically used as a mass gravesite and it had become pretty much a toxic dump. And Andrew Miller is brilliant about really bringing in the sights and the smells in the visceral sense.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN #1: (Reading) In the church of Les Innocents, the light of a Paris morning falls in thin gray ropes from high windows but does little to disturb the building's permanent twilight. Pillars, black or nearly so, rise like the remnants of a petrified forest, their tops lost in canopies of shadow.

SIMON: And let me ask you about a book that's already gathered a lot of attention in France, and won a number of awards and that's Laurent Binet's - I don't know how to pronounce this. H-H-h-H.

(LAUGHTER)

MILLER: Yes. It's, speaking of a memorable title, HHhH is apparently an acronym for a phrase, a kind of a play on words from German and I'm going to butcher the pronunciation of this but it's "Himmlers Him heisst Heydrich" which means "Himmler's Brain is called Heydrich." And it's about the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich.

So it's a fascinating novel because the main character of the book is actually really a narrator, kind of exploring how much he can reconstruct. And it's sort of funny because that makes it sound very intellectual and that it's not a page turner, but the amazing thing is that he manages to do that and make it a complete page turner.

SIMON: Let me ask you finally about Richard Mason's "History of a Pleasure Seeker." This is set in Europe at the turn of the century.

MILLER: This is just such an enjoyable, enjoyable book. I mean, it's beautifully written and its main character, who's Piet Barol, is a extremely charming young man who is kind of, one, he has these rags-to-riches fantasies. He comes from a very, very modest background but he manages to kind of talk and charm his way into a very rich household where he serves as a tutor.

And it is very focused on sensual pleasures that are wonderfully described, particularly music.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN #2: (Reading) Piet played the last bars of the nocturne very delicately and the piano's ringing made the air between them tingle. He did not silence it by lifting his foot from the pedal. When Jacobina said, play me something more modern, Mr. Barol, he was ready for her. His choice was the entr'acte to the third act of "Carmen," also an E flat major which had been useful in similar situations before. Its pure, beguiling melody rose from the embers of the nocturne and the rumbling arpeggios of the baseline showed his hands to advantage.

SIMON: I gather he also - not that it's a how-to book - but it was a single piano key that's supposed to be the key to love?

MILLER: That is right. Could be a good thing to know for the future. E flat major is the key of love.

SIMON: But only on the piano, not the kazoo?

MILLER: I think piano would probably work better.

SIMON: Madeline Miller is the author of "The Song of Achilles," and you can see her full list of recommended historical fiction at NPR Books, on npr.org. Thanks so much.

MILLER: Thank you so much for having me.

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