Fridays we hear from StoryCorps, recording conversations between loved ones. Today, a woman speaks with her father, a veteran, who, in the late 1950s, witnessed the detonation of more than 20 atomic bombs. It happened at a test site in the desert north of Las Vegas, known as Operation Plumbbob. It was one of the largest series of nuclear tests ever conducted on U.S. soil.

JOEL HEALY: My name is Joel Healy. I was in the U.S. Army and I witnessed Operation Plumbbob in 1957.


UNIDENTIFIED MAN #1: Nevada, USA. This is the valley where the giant mushrooms grow. More atomic bombs have been exploded on these 200 square miles of desert than on any other spot on the globe.

KELLI HEALY SALAZAR: Can you describe what it was like to witness your first nuclear explosion?

HEALY: Well, I was 17 years old and I thought to myself, if there is a hell on Earth, it's gotta be that. You felt the shock wave of the thing going off and then the heat. And the biggest one that was set off in the desert when I was there was a 74 kiloton, almost twice the amount what was used in Hiroshima and Nagasaki.


UNIDENTIFIED MAN #1: Little bomb, big bomb.

HEALY: In one of the explosions, I could see the bones in my hands.

SALAZAR: When it go off, where were you, physically?

HEALY: In some cases, we were in a trench. Other times we were just standing up out there.

SALAZAR: What were you told about safety?

HEALY: Don't worry. You will not be in harm's way.


UNIDENTIFIED MAN #1: Five military observers stood directly beneath the burst indicating the safety to personnel on the ground below.

HEALY: The Army had their own film teams out there to show these are our boys whistlin' Dixie going into a nuclear device.

SALAZAR: You're kidding.


UNIDENTIFIED MAN #2: My only regrets right now are that everybody couldn't have been out here at ground zero with us.

HEALY: They had a motto then: Atoms for Peace. And, you know, I'm 17 years old and I buy into it because I'm thinking, they spent a lot of money training me to be a soldier. They wouldn't intentionally put me in harm's way. And this is 1957. We dropped those bombs on Japan in 1945, so they've known for 12 years.

Troops going into battle know that there is a very inherent risk that they may not be coming out, unless it's in a black bag. In this instance, they never said a word. And they knew it. It's just a disgrace. I don't really like to talk about it. A lot of good men died. That's all I have to say.

MONTAGNE: Joel Healy, speaking with his daughter Kelli Healy Salazar about taking part in the Operation Plumbbob nuclear tests back in 1957. It's hard to determine just how many veterans became ill from being at those tests, but Healy and thousands of others have received compensation from the U.S. government as part of the Radiation Exposure Compensation Act of 1990. This interview will be archived at the Library of Congress.

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