'This Town' Takes Aim At The Washington Establishment New York Times Magazine reporter Mark Leibovich's new book This Town is a lively look at media, politics and money in Washington. Leibovich tells NPR that most people outside don't understand what a carnival of money and celebrity the city has become.
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'This Town' Takes Aim At The Washington Establishment

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'This Town' Takes Aim At The Washington Establishment

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This is WEEKEND EDITION from NPR News. I'm Rachel Martin.

Our nation's capital has a complicated reputation. For some people it is first and foremost a place of inspiration.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN #1: Freedom. History. Pride.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN #1: It shows everybody kind of almost our history and our journey from where we started out.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN #2: It's a place that every American should come see at least once in their lifetime.

MARTIN: Those are responses from some folks we caught up with in one of the most inspiring spots in D.C., the Lincoln Memorial. But when we asked people what they thought of the U.S. Capitol at the other end of the National Mall, we got decidedly different answers.



UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN #2: Disappointment. Do you want one word or the ones you can say on the radio?


UNIDENTIFIED MAN #3: Bureaucrats.

UNIDENTIFIED WOMAN #3: It's in bad shape right now.


MARTIN: And that is the Washington New York Times magazine correspondent Mark Leibovich writes about in his new book. It's called "This Town: Two Parties and a Funeral - Plus Plenty of Valet Parking in America's Gilded Capital." More than 300 pages of inside-the-Beltway dirt-dishing. But Leibovich says at its core this is a brutally honest reflection of Washington culture.

MARK LEIBOVICH: I think what people don't have a full appreciation of is just the full carnival that Washington has become. The way in which the city has been completely revolutionized by money, by new media, by the celebrity madness that sort of engulfed the rest of the culture. And really, this has become really a gold rush in the nation's capital at a time when the rest of the country has really been struggling economically. And I think that that's a part of the disconnect that I wanted to bring to bear here.

MARTIN: It begins at the funeral for the much beloved host of "Meet the Press," Tim Russert.


MARTIN: Which is kind of in odd place to start at this memorial service, but it was significant for you in what you were trying to illuminate. Describe the scene.

LEIBOVICH: Tim Russert, this giant in Washington, I call him the Mayor of Official Washington, he dies in the prime of his life. And there was a state-funeral-like scene where all of the brand names, all of the tribes convened. You had the Democrats, the Republicans, the Clintons, the newscasters, Barbara Walters. I mean, everyone was there. And I remember sitting there, and I was struck by how this memorial service for a beloved newsman could so quickly degenerate into a networking opportunity. People were throwing business cards around, people were trying to get booked on various shows. The funeral as cocktail party.

MARTIN: You were at the funeral. I mean, you don't hide the fact that you are part of this club that you write about when we talk about the pundits, politicians, journalists who make up this elite group.


MARTIN: You don't claim to be an outsider? You think that it's still OK to write this, that people should pay attention to what you have to say.

LEIBOVICH: I mean, I hope so. I mean to pretend I was an outsider or I am an outsider would just be dishonest. I mean, I am part of this world, maybe a part of this problem. But I also think that when you live here you do see things that others don't, obviously. And there has been some push-back towards me because no one likes to have the secret handshake revealed. But I - no, I thought that Washington had reached the tipping point of self-celebration, of self-perpetuation at a time when the rest of the country didn't fully understand this.

MARTIN: So let's dig into the book a little bit. There is a lot of gossipy stuff that's getting a lot of buzz and headlines, that people who follow the personality of politics will find interesting probably, maybe. But there are also some longer profiles of individuals and characters who you see as representing something fundamental about how this place, this town works.


MARTIN: Can you tell us about Kurt Bardella? Not a name most people would recognize.

LEIBOVICH: Right, I mean, Kurt Bardella is the press secretary - the former press secretary to Congressman Darrell Issa. He was someone who watched "West Wing" as a kid and became enthralled with the idea of Washington as this thrilling screen game. And he said, look, I'm not so much as a D or an R, I'm an O, I'm an opportunist. And essentially, he wanted a ticket to Washington because this game was so thrilling to him. And Kurt was very good at his job. He got Darrell Issa a great deal of press and I started following him around. And he was rather blunt about his own ambitions. He really flouted the ethic in Washington that you're supposed to cloak your own ambitions in nonchalance.

MARTIN: But you're even smiling now. There's something about that that to you find endearing.

LEIBOVICH: Absolutely, I mean, look. I have a bias towards transparency. I mean, Washington is a city of poses and posturing and very few people are willing to talk about how ambitious they are, to show their demons as nakedly as Kurt did. I mean, I think some of the characters that come off best - according to some readers - people like Harry Reid and Tom Colburn, who were two Senators from completely different sides of the spectrum and who can't stand each other, but there is a transparency about them and there was a transparency about Kurt that I was very, very enamored of because it's just much more out-front.

MARTIN: It's not your business to proffer up solutions. Inevitably, I would imagine that in writing this and researching, you had to have given it a little bit of thought when you are articulating the layers and layers of these challenges.

LEIBOVICH: I think you never can underestimate the power of shame over a long period of time. You also can't underestimate the power of the American electorate. It doesn't move as fast as you think. But there is a period of foment going on now. I mean, you've had three or four change elections. I'm making quotes with my fingers.

MARTIN: The air quotes. Yeah.

LEIBOVICH: The air quotes. Right. Meaning, that, you know, you have the Democrats sweeping out the Republicans in 2006, and then you have Obama coming in and 2008, and then you have the Tea Party in 2010. I mean, there is definitely a great impatience with business as it's done in Washington. And I think politicians will do things when it serves their interest. I mean, you know, the populist does have an ability to shape change, to sort of shape Washington, and I think, you know, again, that system is not going to go away. But, no, I mean, I guess I'm hedging on the grand solutions because it's just not - first of all, I'm not that smart.


LEIBOVICH: But, again, I mean, I'm just sort of trying to tell a story.

MARTIN: The book is called "This Town: Two Parties and a Funeral - Plus Plenty of Valet Parking in America's Gilded Capital." Mark Leibovich joined us in our studios in Washington, D.C.

Mark, thanks so much.

LEIBOVICH: Thanks, Rachel.

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