RENEE MONTAGNE, HOST:

Time now for StoryCorps, where people come to have conversations with the people they're closest to. Leonard Carpenter raised his family in Akron, Ohio, during the 1960s. He worked as an assembly worker at a tire factory there. Carpenter died in 1999, the same year his grandson, Jack Bruschetti, was born. At StoryCorps, Jack sat down with his mother, Lynne, to find out about his grandfather.

LYNNE BRUSCHETTI: It was very important for him to be in control at all times. We lived in the city, and we had very tiny yards, and he didn't use a lawnmower. He used clippers because he wanted every blade of grass to be exactly the same height. We could play in the driveway, on the sidewalk, in the middle of the street, but we were not allowed in the showplace yard of his.

And in his pockets, he always kept a comb, handkerchief and penknife. And the handkerchief was always clean and pressed. He would use a handkerchief not to blow his nose, but to clean. If there was like a mark on the side of our house, he would wipe it. And when I was a teenager, I was starting to lose respect for your grandpa Leonard.

JACK BRUSCHETTI: Why?

BRUSCHETTI: I resented him always wanting to keep the house perfect and always being in control, and I was starting to realize that he wasn't that educated. But at that time, we were active in our church and the church asked him to be president of the trustees. And I was shocked. Like, why would they want him to be president? But there was tension in the church. Things weren't going very well and people weren't agreeing with each other.

And in the trustee meetings, Grandpa Leonard got some apples. First, he would pull out his handkerchief and he would wipe the apples and make them shiny. And then he would pull out his penknife. And he'd always cut so that there was just one long apple peel. And as they're arguing, he would slice the apple, put it on the penknife, and hold it out to each member of the trustees. And every meeting, they would eat apples together.

And they started getting trust back. And so he had that ability. He didn't have a lot of money. He didn't have a lot of education. But he had that handkerchief, and he had that penknife. And people did start to get along. He was an important part of that.

MONTAGNE: Lynne Bruschetti remembering her father, Leonard Carpenter, at StoryCorps. She spoke with her son, Jack. This interview will be archived at the American Folklife Center at the Library of Congress. Subscribe to the StoryCorps podcast at npr.org.

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