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RACHEL MARTIN, HOST:

This is WEEKEND EDITION from NPR News. I'm Rachel Martin. If it's the first day of the month, it's time to say rabbit, rabbit. And if it's also a Sunday, well, then, it really is your lucky day because it's time to play the puzzle. Joining me now is Will Shortz. He is the puzzle editor of the New York Times and WEEKEND EDITION's puzzle master. Good morning, Will.

WILL SHORTZ, BYLINE: Good morning, Rachel.

MARTIN: Do you say rabbit, rabbit on the first day of the month?

SHORTZ: You know, I'm not aware of that. No.

MARTIN: Rabbit, rabbit - it brings you good luck. But you have - the problem is you have to remember. This is - it gets me every time.

SHORTZ: And do you have to do that every month?

MARTIN: Every month, yeah.

SHORTZ: OK.

MARTIN: What was last week's challenge, Will?

SHORTZ: Yes. Last week's challenge came from Ed Peg, Jr., who runs the website, mathpuzzle.com. I said the word sort has an unusual property. The first letter, S, is found inside the word first. The second letter, O, is found inside the word second. Third letter, R, is found inside third, and the fourth letter, T, is found inside forth. And I said think of a familiar three-word phrase, in 10 letters, that has the same property - in which every letter in the phrase is found inside its corresponding ordinal. And as a hint, I said it's something most people have, lose and regain. What is it? And the answer is set of teeth.

MARTIN: OK. So over 650 of you all got it right. And our randomly selected winner is Daniel Heist from Brookline, Massachusetts. He joins us on the line now. Hey, Daniel. Congratulations.

DANIEL HEIST: Thank you.

MARTIN: So did this come pretty quickly to you?

HEIST: It did. As soon as I set it down on paper - just got out a tablet, and it came within about 15 minutes.

MARTIN: Well, good for you. And you live in Brookline, Massachusetts. What do you do for a living, Daniel?

HEIST: Right now, I'm working part-time at Trader Joe's.

MARTIN: I love Trader Joe's. How long have you playing the puzzle, Daniel?

HEIST: I assume it's been over 10 years, but I remember the first time I listened it was a spoonerism on Buster Keaton and Custer Beaten.

MARTIN: That sounds like maybe it was a long time ago. Will?

SHORTZ: That's going back.

MARTIN: (Laughter) And of course Will Shortz is on the line. Daniel, do you have a question for the puzzle master?

HEIST: Will, are you a big fan of cryptograms like I am?

SHORTZ: Yeah, I love cryptograms. Yeah. Every time I go on...

MARTIN: What's a cryptogram?

SHORTZ: A cryptogam is when you have - say a sentence or something - and every letter is encrypted to a different letter. So all the A's become X, maybe. And all the B's become L, and you have to work backward to figure out what the original phrase is.

MARTIN: Oh, very cool. I learned something. So I'm not sure if there are any cryptograms involved, but, Daniel, are you ready to play the puzzle?

HEIST: As ready as I'll ever be.

MARTIN: OK. Let's do it, Will.

SHORTZ: All right, Daniel. I have a question for you. If I make this puzzle easy, can I get an employee discount? Can I get a discount at Trader Joe's?

HEIST: I will see to it. Yes.

MARTIN: That's an incentive, Will.

SHORTZ: OK. Here we go. Every answer that follows is a made-up two-word phrase in which you add in, I-N, to the front of the first word to get the second word. For example, if I said only shoe insert, you would say sole insole.

MARTIN: OK. Daniel, you have it?

HEIST: I think so.

MARTIN: All right. Let's give it a go.

SHORTZ: Number one - physical harm to a court panel.

HEIST: Junction injunction?

SHORTZ: No. Think of a - not sure that's a court's panel - what would a panel in a court - 12 people who would hear a case?

HEIST: Oh. Jury and injury.

SHORTZ: Jury - that'd be a jury injury is right. Number two - more confident company that protects against financial loss.

HEIST: Surance and insurance.

SHORTZ: Almost. So more confident would be...

HEIST: Sure and insure.

MARTIN: Yeah.

SHORTZ: Yeah. So you would say surer insurer. It's a two-word phrase. Here's your next one - previous person who rats. Well, if a person who rats on you - what are they? Starting with I-N. Or what is a...

HEIST: Oh, former informer.

SHORTZ: Former informer is right. Now in the following answers, they work the opposite way. The word starting with in comes first. Drop the IN to get the second word.

MARTIN: Oh man, I just got - I just figured out the first way, Will. All right.

SHORTZ: Here you go. Creates openings for air.

HEIST: Invents vents.

SHORTZ: That's it. Invents vents is it. Adds to the number of lines made by folding.

HEIST: Increases creases.

SHORTZ: That's it. Establishes compartments in a barn for horses and cows.

HEIST: Installs stalls.

SHORTZ: That's it. A religious offshoot of ants and bees. What are ants and bee?

HEIST: Insects sects.

SHORTZ: Insect sect is it. And your last one is a large geographical area where the people keep going to the bathroom.

HEIST: Whoa. Oh. A large - oh, incontinent continent.

SHORTZ: Incontinent continent. Nice job.

MARTIN: Daniel, that was excellent.

HEIST: Thank you.

MARTIN: For playing the puzzle today, you get a WEEKEND EDITION lapel pin, all kinds of puzzle books and games. You can read all about it at npr.org/puzzle. And before we let you go, Daniel, where do you hear us? What's your public radio station?

HEIST: That's WBUR, Boston.

MARTIN: WBUR in Boston. Daniel Heist of Brookline, Massachusetts. Thanks so much for playing the puzzle, Daniel.

HEIST: Oh, thank you. It's been fun.

MARTIN: OK. Will, what's up for next week?

SHORTZ: Yes. The challenge comes from listener Dan Pitt of Palo Alto, California. Take the name of the well-known American businessmen - first and last names. Put the last name first, insert an M between the two names. And the result will name a food item. What is it? So again, a well-known American businessmen - first and last names. Switch the order of those names, put an M, as in Mary, between those two names. And the result will be a food item. What is it?

MARTIN: All right. When you've figured this one out, go to our website. It is npr.org/puzzle, and click on that submit your answer link. Just one entry per-person please, and our deadline for those entries is Thursday, June 5 at 3 p.m. Eastern time. Don't forget a phone number where we can reach you at about that time because if you win, we give you a call. And then you get to play on the air with the puzzle editor of the New York Times. And he is WEEKEND EDITION's puzzle master, Will Shortz. Thanks so much, Will.

SHORTZ: Thanks, Rachel.