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DON GONYEA, host:

From NPR News, this is WEEKEND EDITION. I'm Don Gonyea sitting in for Liane Hansen. And joining us is puzzle master Will Shortz. Hey, Will.

Mr. WILL SHORTZ (NPR Puzzle Master; The New York Times Crossword Editor): Hi, Don, welcome back.

GONYEA: It's fun to be back in this chair. I've been covering the White House for the last five years and I have to tell you, my kids are much more impressed that I'm talking to you than that I see the President all the time .

Mr. SHORTZ: That's so funny.

GONYEA: And they're home listening, so why don't you remind us, if you would, of the challenge you left us with last week.

Mr. SHORTZ: Yes, it came from listener Eric Berlin of Milford, Connecticut. I said, think of two different words meaning desire, add the same letter in front of each of them, and you'll get two new words, each meaning get rid of. What words are these?

GONYEA: And the answer is?

Mr. SHORTZ: The words meaning desire are itch and urge, put a P in front of each of them and you get pitch and purge.

GONYEA: Pitch and purge, all right. Well, we had over 1400 entries from people who tried to solve the puzzle. And our winner, as always, randomly selected from the correct answers, is Avie Mr. KATZ from Cupertino, California. Avie, are you there?

Mr. AVIE KATZ (Puzzle Winner, Cupertino, California): Yes, I am.

GONYEA: Did I say that correctly? Is it Cup-ertino?

Mr. KATZ: Cooper-tino.

GONYEA: Cupertino, Cupertino. Tell me where that is.

Mr. KATZ: Well, Cupertino is in, in the heart of Silicon Valley near San Jose, and it's, we've just celebrated our 50th anniversary of existence.

GONYEA: Excellent. And, and what do you do there?

Mr. KATZ: I am president of the school board for the high school district. And I'm for reelection in November.

GONYEA: All right. Maybe next week we'll have to give equal time to somebody. How long have you been playing the puzzle every Sunday?

Mr. KATZ: Well, my daughter and I have been listening to it for about a year.

GONYEA: All right.

Mr. KATZ: And we play it together.

GONYEA: And you're ready to play now?

Mr. KATZ: I'm about to find out.

GONYEA: Well, here we go. Will, meet Avie, and let's play the game.

Mr. SHORTZ: All right, Avie and Don, the initials E.T. stand for extra-terrestrial. They're also the initials of the following familiar two-word phrases. Answer the clues to get them. And number one, if a politician is attacked on television, what he might demand.

Mr. KATZ: Extra time?

Mr. SHORTZ: Well, what kind of time? A different kind of time, and Don just said it.

GONYEA: This has already come up today.

Mr. KATZ: Equal time.

Mr. SHORTZ: Equal time is it. Good. That is so funny that that came up a few seconds ago. Number two: a tourist site in Paris.

Mr. KATZ: Eiffel Tower.

Mr. SHORTZ: That's right. A sitting duck for an attack.

Mr. KATZ: Sitting duck for an attack. Boy, I don't know.

Mr. SHORTZ: Do you know this one, Don?

GONYEA: I think I do. No Dick Cheney jokes, here.

Mr. SHORTZ: Go ahead.

GONYEA: Would it be easy target?

Mr. SHORTZ: Easy target is it. Try this one: a flowing out of water at the beach.

Mr. KATZ: Ebb tide.

Mr. SHORTZ: Ebb tide is right. A kitchen sand clock that goes three to five minutes.

Mr. KATZ: Egg timer.

Mr. SHORTZ: Right. It doesn't make local stops.

Mr. KATZ: Express train.

Mr. SHORTZ: Right. A kitchen appliance that browns bread.

Mr. KATZ: A kitchen appliance that browns bread. A toaster.

Mr. SHORTZ: What kind?

Mr. KATZ: An electric toaster.

Mr. SHORTZ: Electric toaster is right. A device used in a TV.

Mr. KATZ: An electric tube?

Mr. SHORTZ: What kind of tube? A different kind of tube.

GONYEA: It's an electronic term, right?

Mr. SHORTZ: Yeah, in fact you just said the first eight letters of your, of that, Don.

Mr. KATZ: Electronic.

Mr. SHORTZ: Electron tube is it.

Mr. KATZ: Electron tube, okay, good.

Mr. SHORTZ: Try this one. Whom a student learns grammar from.

Mr. KATZ: English teacher.

Mr. SHORTZ: Right. A completely regular three-sided shape.

Mr. KATZ: Equilateral triangle.

Mr. SHORTZ: That's right. Money owed the government when someone dies.

Mr. KATZ: Let's see, that would be a tax, it would be estate tax.

Mr. SHORTZ: Estate tax is right. What Caesar reputedly said to Brutus.

Mr. KATZ: Et tu, Brute?

Mr. SHORTZ: Et tu is right. Piece of furniture beside a sofa.

Mr. KATZ: End table.

Mr. SHORTZ: Uh-huh. A stately shade provider.

Mr. KATZ: A stately shade provider.

Mr. SHORTZ: What would be beside a house that would cast some real nice shade?

Mr. KATZ: Uhh...

Mr. SHORTZ: It's a classic tree that you don't see much nowadays.

Mr. KATZ: Elm?

Mr. SHORTZ: Elm tree is right.

Mr. KATZ: Yeah.

Mr. SHORTZ: An alter-ego who makes you do bad things.

Mr. KATZ: I can think of a lot of friends that try to do that. Let's see. Alter-ego that makes...

GONYEA: It's a plot device used by a lot of bad TV shows, right?

Mr. SHORTZ: Right.

Mr. KATZ: I don't know.

Mr. SHORTZ: Go ahead, Don, do you know this?

GONYEA: Evil twin.

Mr. SHORTZ: An evil twin. Very good.

Mr. KATZ: Oh, oh, good, okay.

Mr. SHORTZ: Something you take using a chart at the motor vehicle bureau.

Mr. KATZ: Eye test.

Mr. SHORTZ: Eye test is right. And here is your last one: 40 minutes before noon.

Mr. KATZ: Eleven-thirty.

Mr. SHORTZ: No...

Mr. KATZ: Uh, uh, eleven-twenty.

Mr. SHORTZ: Eleven-twenty is it. Good job.

GONYEA: Excellent, Avie, that was, that was fun! You were, you were right there.

Mr. KATZ: Thank you.

GONYEA: How'd it feel?

Mr. KATZ: It felt good, but you know, it's different doing it on the air than doing it at home with my daughter.

GONYEA: How many times have you heard that, Will?

Mr. SHORTZ: I've heard that a lot.

GONYEA: Well, for playing our puzzle today, you'll get a WEEKEND EDITION lapel pin, the Eleventh Edition of Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary and Thesaurus, the Scrabble Deluxe Edition from Parker Brothers, the Puzzle Master Presents from Random House, Volume Two, and a set of Sudoku puzzle books presented by Will Shortz from St. Martin's Press. Avie, what member station do you listen to?

Mr. KATZ: KQED in San Francisco.

GONYEA: Excellent. Avie Mr. KATZ from Cupertino, California. Thanks a lot for playing the puzzle today.

Mr. KATZ: Thank you very much.

GONYEA: So, Will, you have a challenge for next week?

Mr. SHORTZ: Yes, it's short and simple. Take the phrase take bets on, t-a-k-e b-e-t-s o-n, rearrange these ten letters to name something to eat. So again, take bets on, rearrange these ten letters to name something to eat. What it is?

GONYEA: And when you have the answer, remember there's a new way to send in your entry. We no longer accept email entries, but you can go to our Web site, npr.org, and click on the Submit Your Answer link on the Sunday puzzle page. Only one entry per person, please. Our deadline this week is Thursday at 3 p.m. Eastern time. Please include a phone number where we can reach you at about that time. We'll call if you're the winner and you'll get to play puzzle on the air with the puzzle editor of The New York Times and WEEKEND EDITION's puzzle master, Will Shortz. Thanks a lot, Will.

Mr. SHORTZ: Thanks, Don.

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