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From NPR News, this is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED. I'm Melissa Block.

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I'm Robert Siegel, and we are reporting this week from Chengdu in Sichuan Province, China.

Over the past two days, we've been trying to describe daily life in this big growing city in southwestern China and we've introduced you to people who moved to neighborhoods beyond Chengdu's third ring road. It's within the city but several miles from downtown. We met a middle-class couple who bought a spanking new apartment and a migrant couple from a mountain village who live in a crowded tenement.

Our last group are people who didn't move at all. They stayed in the country and the city came to them. Their collective farm has been cleared and paved over to make way for high-rise apartments. Their experience has been a catastrophe just outside the third ring road.

Unidentified Group: (Speaking foreign language)

SIEGEL: Was there farmland right out here? What were people growing here?

Ms. LEI MINGFEN: (Through translator) Rice and veggies.

SIEGEL: Rice and vegetables, yes. You would never know it: Their former farmland is a rubble-strewn urban construction site in the Wuho district in the west of the city.

In 2001, the local government offered them compensation for their homes and fields. It was a take-it-or-leave-it offer, they say: 15,000 renminbi for each mou of land. A mou is about one-sixth of an acre.

Can you tell me, from here, where was your house?

Ms. LEI: (Speaking foreign language)

SIEGEL: Back here behind this wall where the construction site is.

Unidentified Man: That's right.

SIEGEL: I see.

Unidentified Man: Okay.

SIEGEL: That's Lei Mingfen, a slim, elegant woman of 45, a villager who has immersed herself in Chinese property law since all this started. Those buildings she speaks of are the high-rises that a developer built after leasing the land from the local government. The price the farmers were offered for one-sixth of an acre is what people now pay for every 50 square feet in a new apartment.

For seven years, this group resisted the plan to pave over their formerly rural village. They thought they deserved just compensation. They staged a sit-in. They stayed on after the water was cut off. They say thugs even came to beat down their doors, and they have photos of the damage.

Unidentified Group: (Speaking foreign language)

SIEGEL: Finally, Lei Mingfen and several other women did something that is both traditionally Chinese and audaciously risky: Last September, convinced that Chinese law was on their side and that national policies are fair even if local implementation of them is not, they went over the heads of the Chengdu authorities. They traveled to the national capital, Beijing, to petition the authorities there. And the price they paid was enormous.

Ms. LEI: (Speaking in foreign language)

Unidentified Interpreter: September 17th, she was arrested. She was imprisoned for 80-some days.

SIEGEL: How did they treat you in the prison?

Ms. LEI: (Speaking in foreign language)

Unidentified Interpreter: They beat her. They were interrogated harshly, and forced her to say that she was the one breaking the law.

SIEGEL: Ultimately, they had to leave, and their homes were demolished. Later groups of families from the collective took the deal and got housing. The protesters have had to fend for themselves.

Zhou Defu is still in his house, which he built, he says, with his own hands. It's two stories with two bedrooms and a living room upstairs.

(Soundbite of construction)

SIEGEL: Mr. Zhou faces eviction and the bulldozer. Bare-chested, wearing just a pair of shorts, he showed me how he and his wife plan to hold out.

He has installed a steel security door.

(Soundbite of knocking on steel)

SIEGEL: That's strong.

The afternoon I was there, he just finished plastering over a living room window to make sure no one can get in that way. He says he will die with his home if he must.

(Soundbite of construction)

SIEGEL: We tried to reach the prosecutor who handled the case of the protesters, but to no avail. My colleague's phone calls were not answered.

We first met Mr. Zhou and Lei Mingfen at the office of Huang Qi, who runs a Chinese human rights network. On a Web site that is blocked by the Chinese authorities, he tracks thousands of cases nationwide which he says amount to human rights abuses. He says the most common kind of case nowadays is the land grab.

Mr. HUANG QI (Human Rights Activist, 64Tianwang.com): (Through translator) Most so called land-grabs involve Chinese government officials acting in concert with special interests, in this case real estate developers, for their own gain. They buy land from peasants - very cheap. The compensation the farmers get is just a few percent of the real value. That's basically what happens.

SIEGEL: Do the farmers have the right not to sell? Can they hold out?

Mr. HUANG: (Through translator) According to the law of the People's Republic of China, the peasants do have the right not to sell the land. However, during this process, the government often employs the underworld and the apparatus of the state to force the farmers to sell.

SIEGEL: Huang Qi is an interesting character. He studied telecommunications engineering and made enough money in the Chinese business boom of the '90s to start searching for meaning in his life, he says. He found it in documenting human rights abuses. Huang exposed a mind-boggling scheme that required tens of thousands of Chinese workers to have and pay for unnecessary appendectomies. He defended the practitioner of Falun Gong, which is regarded by Chinese officialdom as a subversive cult. He championed a successful wrongful death case arising from the suppression of the Tiananmen Square protests of 1989.

For his work, he was charged with incitement and sent to prison for five years. He got out in 2005 and resumed his human rights work. I asked Huang Qi if there is a line which, if he crosses it, would mean he goes back to prison.

Mr. HUANG: (Through translator) It mainly depends on how we make our cases. We make sure to follow the law of the People's Republic of China, and we make certain we present our cases objectively and truthfully. Then, in my opinion, the line does not exist, at least in present-day China, because compared to 10 years ago, the human rights situation in China today has improved a great deal.

SIEGEL: Our conversation with Huang Qi and our visit to the former collective took place a few days before the Sichuan earthquake. I went back after the quake to talk about it with Mr. Huang, whose Web site has turned its attention to earthquake relief. He says the government should be more open to foreign assistance and to grassroots spontaneous relief efforts, as opposed to insisting that efforts all be organized by the government.

I ask him if by criticizing the government about this he wasn't taking big risks at a moment of intensified patriotism.

Mr. HUANG: (Through translator) Yes, but we've been doing this for over 10 years. It's nothing new. And we consider it our God-given duty to criticize and to bring attention to this. As a matter of fact, over the past few days, we have seen some good things the government has done and some bad things. One of the good things, for example, is a relative openness to the media. Openness of information will prevent unnecessary panic.

SIEGEL: The earthquake has redirected everyone's attention here. But inevitably, it will multiply the questions and allegations of land grabs. If villages or whole towns are to be demolished or rebuilt, who'll be compensated, and who will do the building? Who will benefit from the bulldozer and who will be its victims? Questions for this rapidly growing region around Chengdu, China.

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