Holbrooke Crafted 1995's Bosnia Peace Accords
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STEVE INSKEEP, Host:
Tom, good morning.
TOM GJELTEN: Good morning, Steve.
INSKEEP: What was Richard Holbrooke like, the diplomat who died last night at age 69?
GJELTEN: You know, Steve, in a tribute last night, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton called Richard Holbrooke the consummate diplomat. But the truth is he was not always all the polite in dealing with foreign leaders. In fact, he was just as well known for being abrasive. His specialty was in one aspect of diplomacy - peace negotiating - and the tougher the characters, the more he enjoyed the challenge of dealing with them.
RICHARD HOLBROOKE: They will do what they have to do in whatever they think is their own interest. Negotiations themselves are a little bit like jazz. You improvise on a theme and you move towards a goal.
GJELTEN: He was dealing with three stubborn leaders - the presidents of Serbia, Croatia, and Bosnia - and each of them encountered Holbrooke's legendary temper.
HOLBROOKE: You mean the allegation that I yell a lot?
HOLBROOKE: Listen, at times in Dayton, I played the good guy and Warren Christopher yelled.
GJELTEN: In that 1996 interview, I was asking Holbrooke if being abrasive, yelling at people, was part of his negotiating style. He was quick to point out that most of his career had been spent in Asia, and there he had a different reputation.
HOLBROOKE: Nobody ever said I yelled or screamed. Because you don't yell and scream when you're with Deng Xiaoping.
GJELTEN: Deng Xiaoping was the leader of China in the 1980s and '90s. Nor, Holbrooke told me, would you yell in Korea - or in any of the Asian capitals.
HOLBROOKE: Maybe a little bit in Manila, but not in Japan or Seoul or Beijing. You have to match your method to the moment and your style to the situation. The Balkans is an area of very tough tribal mountain people and you have to deal with it in an appropriate manner.
GJELTEN: And Richard Holbrooke knew how to deal with it. The Bosnia peace agreement, known as the Dayton accord, brought an end to a bloody conflict that cost the lives of nearly 100,000 people, most of them civilian. It was, without a doubt, Holbrooke's proudest accomplishment and he hoped - and expected - it would be an achievement history would remember. Here he was, speaking on the first anniversary of the Dayton accord.
HOLBROOKE: Last week I was high on the Himalayas, in the tiny kingdom of Bhutan, where the King of Bhutan wanted to talk about Dayton. Everyone knows about Dayton. The word is now synonymous with a certain approach to peace. The Irish and the Greek and Turkish Cypriots have talked about having a Dayton. And everyone knows what it means.
GJELTEN: He did go on, Steve, to serve effectively as ambassador to the United Nations and finally as envoy to Afghanistan and Pakistan. But I have no doubt that peace in Bosnia was the achievement for which he'd want to be remembered.
INSKEEP: Well, why do you think it would be, Tom Gjelten, that in his final assignment, Afghanistan and Pakistan, he would not have achieved the same level of success?
GJELTEN: South Asia, on the other hand, has resisted outside pressure. A different case entirely.
INSKEEP: Well, it was a specially created job that he had - Afghanistan and Pakistan...
INSKEEP: ...envoy for those two countries. Is anybody else going to fill that job now?
GJELTEN: No word about that yet, Steve. And actually, I would be surprised if anyone did try to step in right now.
INSKEEP: Tom, thanks very much.
GJELTEN: Thank you, Steve.
INSKEEP: NPR's Tom Gjelten on the late Richard Holbrooke.
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