Not My Job: We Quiz Ina Garten, The Barefoot Contessa, On Footwear The cookbook author and TV host answers three questions about shoes. Originally broadcast April 22, 2017.

Not My Job: We Quiz Ina Garten, The Barefoot Contessa, On Footwear

Not My Job: We Quiz Ina Garten, The Barefoot Contessa, On Footwear

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The cookbook author and TV host answers three questions about shoes. Originally broadcast April 22, 2017.

BILL KURTIS: From NPR and WBEZ Chicago, this is WAIT WAIT... DON'T TELL ME, the NPR news quiz. I'm Bill Kurtis, and here is your host at the Chase Bank Auditorium in Chicago, Peter Sagal.



Thank you, Bill. Thanks, everybody.

So we have been making the case that 2017 was actually pretty great but only if you were us. If you weren't us, well, try harder next year.

KURTIS: One of our favorite moments of the year was when we got to talk to Ina Garten, the chef and cookbook author known as the Barefoot Contessa.

SAGAL: I asked her about all her early experiences that made her decide to run away and bake cupcakes instead.


INA GARTEN: I had worked in the White House. I worked in the Office of Management and Budget on nuclear energy policy.

SAGAL: So were you an enthusiastic cook back then?

GARTEN: I was learning how to cook then. I would work at OMB during the day, and I'd go home and cook at night.

SAGAL: I've heard that you bought the store called The Barefoot Contessa out in the Hamptons without ever having seen it. Is that right?

GARTEN: No, I actually had seen it. I saw it once. They were baking cookies. And I thought, this is where I need to be (laughter). And I made an offer on the store and went back to my office in Washington thinking, well, that'll never happen. And the owner called me the next day and said, thank you very much. I accept your offer. And I just went, oh [expletive].


SAGAL: Well, tell me about the store. What was the original store like?

GARTEN: It was 400 square feet. It was so small that you couldn't get - the stove didn't fit into the kitchen, so it was actually in the store. If you wanted to put something in the oven, you had to go into the store. And it was great. I mean, it was - I always wanted it to feel like a party, and it did. We had great music, and we had samples of cookies out, and everybody had a great time. They would come in just to see what was going on.

SAGAL: Right. And how long did you own that store?

GARTEN: Well, I owned the first store for three years. Then I bought a bigger store. And then I moved to East Hampton to a much bigger store. So the store I owned at the end was 3,000 square feet.

SAGAL: Right. OK. And then you started doing your cookbooks once the store became really known.

GARTEN: No, actually, after I - I sold the store to employees, and then I started doing cookbooks.

SAGAL: Oh, really?


SAGAL: You got out of the food business?

GARTEN: (Laughter) And into the - out of the frying pan and into the pot or whatever it is.

SAGAL: Yeah.

FAITH SALIE: Ina, I don't know how to cook. And I - this is, like, a big stain in my life.


SALIE: Tell me...

JEFF GARLIN: It'd be a bigger stain if you did cook.


SALIE: Maybe. I mean, tell - what's the - tell me the No. 1 thing I need to know to help me start. Or give me...

GARTEN: You know, this - I make roast chicken, and that is the simplest thing in the world to make. And I met some girls that worked at Glamour magazine. And they said, we call it engagement chicken because every time somebody in the office makes it for their boyfriend, they're engaged within 24 hours.



GARLIN: Ina, your last name is Garten. Right?


GARLIN: OK. Your husband's name is Jeff Garten.

GARTEN: Jeffrey, yes.

GARLIN: Jeffrey Garten, I'm Jeffrey Garlin. How are you?


SAGAL: Jeffrey, you're so delighted by that. It's adorable.

GARLIN: I am. By the way, my wife Marla bought me that cookbook, "Cooking For Jeffrey."

GARTEN: (Laughter) That's great.

GARLIN: And - but she cooks from it 'cause I can't do that.

SAGAL: Yeah.

GARLIN: I only know how to put SpaghettiOs on pizza.


GARLIN: That's all I know.

SAGAL: Speaking of someone who loves your cooking...

GARTEN: Uh-oh.

SAGAL: ...What is it like to be in Taylor Swift's posse?

GARTEN: In Taylor Swift's - well, I'm not exactly in her posse. But I spent some - she came for a photo shoot, and we made a Pavlova - meringue and whipped cream and berries.

ROCCA: Is that like Anna Pavlova?

SALIE: Yes, it's...

GARTEN: Like Anna Pavlova.

SALIE: It's named after her.


GARTEN: Exactly.

ROCCA: Is this true that you went to high school with both Pulitzer Prize-winner James Lapine and legendary baseball manager Bobby Valentine?

GARTEN: I did. How did you know that?

ROCCA: Because I know them both. And they said...

GARTEN: Do you really?

ROCCA: ...They worship you.

GARTEN: And I adore both of them.

SAGAL: What high school was this?

GARTEN: Rippowam High School in Stamford, Conn.


SALIE: How extraordinary that a 16-year-old girl chose someone named Jeffrey Garten over someone named Bobby Valentine.

SAGAL: Yeah.

SALIE: It could've gone a different way.

GARTEN: Bobby Valentine didn't choose me.


GARTEN: He was a hero in (inaudible) - total hero. When he called me up I was like, oh, my God. I was like a high school girl with heart palpitations. And I was like - I think I was 65 when he called me.


SAGAL: Well, Ina Garten, we are delighted to talk to you. We have invited you here to play...

KURTIS: They're Snazzy But a Bit Pinchy in the Toe Box.

SAGAL: You are, of course, the Barefoot Contessa. So naturally, we decided to ask you about shoes. Answer 2 out of 3 questions about footwear, you'll win our prize for one of our listeners, Carl Kasell's voice on their voicemail. Bill, who is Ina Garten playing for?

KURTIS: Carol Anthony of New Orleans, La.

SAGAL: All right, you ready to play, Ina?

GARTEN: I'm ready.

SAGAL: Here's your first question. There are, of course, a lot of specialty shoes. Which of these might you really be able to slip onto your own feet - A, Ski Walkers, shoes that sprout skis when you want to get down a snowy hill quickly; B, Phone Holder shoes, which can hold your smartphone in the toe so you can just look at your feet and enjoy some YouTube; or C, No Place Like Home shoes, you click your heels together three times and a GPS unit guides you home?

GARTEN: (Laughter) How about three?

SAGAL: You're going to go for three? Is that your choice?

GARTEN: I have no idea (laughter).

SAGAL: Well, three is the No Place Like Home shoes. You click your heels together, and it lights up and shows you how to go home.

GARTEN: No (laughter).

SAGAL: No? You have to choose one, I'm afraid.

GARTEN: A phone-holder shoe?

SAGAL: Phone Holder shoes - that's the middle choice. You just put your phone on it. You can walk around, look down at your shoe. There's your phone.

SALIE: I feel...

GARTEN: (Laughter) They're all so improbable, I'm going to choose that one.

SAGAL: You're going to choose that one? No, it was actually the No Place Like Home shoes.

GARTEN: It - I was right the first time.

ROCCA: It was the third one?

SAGAL: It was, yes.

ROCCA: Oh, damn.

SALIE: Really?

SAGAL: These are shoes...

SALIE: What?

SAGAL: They're not commercially available yet. But yes, the idea is you click three times. And it lights up LEDs, and it points you the way home.

SALIE: Are they red, sparkly shoes?

SAGAL: I hope so.

GARTEN: (Laughter).

SAGAL: All right, next question - you still have two more chances. Shoes can get you in trouble as when which of these incidents happened - A, a fleeing drug dealer was caught by police in a nighttime foot chase because he was wearing those light-up shoes that light up...


SAGAL: ...B, 13 models ended up in a basement where the combined stress of their high heels punched through the runway floor; or C, a woman's slingback mules got her thrown out of church because of salacious revealing of the toes?

GARTEN: The drug dealer.

SAGAL: You're right. It's the drug dealer.



SAGAL: Happened in the early '90s, when those shoes were popular.

KURTIS: Good job.

SAGAL: All right, last question - if you get this, you win it all. Here we go. One day in 2014, basketball player Manu Ginobili's Nike sneakers did something nobody had ever seen before. What? A, they adhered to the ball, resulting in a scrum of people trying to pull the ball off Ginobili's foot; B, they exploded; or C, they shot lasers every time Ginobili scored?

GARTEN: They exploded?

SAGAL: They explode - you're going to choose that one?


SAGAL: That's what happened.


GARTEN: They just exploded?

SAGAL: They just spontaneously burst into...


GARLIN: They did.

SAGAL: ...Pieces, yeah.

GARLIN: They were Nike Airs.

SAGAL: Yeah.

GARLIN: And they exploded air.

SAGAL: Yeah.

GARLIN: It's true.

GARTEN: Like telephones that are not allowed on airplanes now. Right?

SAGAL: Yeah, it's true.

ROCCA: That's right. Right.

SAGAL: Bill, how did Ina Garten do on our quiz?

KURTIS: Well, here, if you get 2 out of 3, you're a winner. And she did just that.

SAGAL: Congratulations.

KURTIS: Congratulations, Ina.


SAGAL: Ina Garten is the Barefoot Contessa. Her latest cookbook is "Cooking For Jeffrey."

Ina Garten, thank you so much for joining us.

GARTEN: So much fun.

SAGAL: Thank you, Ina. Take care.


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