Why The 'Big Lie' Persists; Phoenix Schools Struggle With Bus Driver Shortage : Here & Now False claims of rampant election fraud and a stolen 2020 presidential election persist despite the fact that there is no evidence that it's true. What gives these lies so much staying power? "Frankly, We Did Win This Election: The Inside Story of How Trump Lost" author Michael Bender joins us to explain. And, in Phoenix, Arizona, many school bus drivers are doubling or tripling up on routes. Brandon George, transportation director for PVUSD, talks about the shortage.