President Barack Obama and Bruce Springsteen on their new book Renegades. : Consider This from NPR Last summer, when former President Barack Obama and Bruce Springsteen sat down to tape their podcast, the country was facing a pandemic, joblessness and a contentious election.

And their conversations, they say, were an effort to offer some perspective and an attempt to try and find a unifying story for the country. The two talked about their dads, race, and the future of the country.

Those conversations have now become a book, titled Renegades: Born in the U.S.A. — and they spoke to Audie Cornish about it's publication.

You can watch a video of this interview and see images from the book here.

In participating regions, you'll also hear a local news segment that will help you make sense of what's going on in your community.

Email us at considerthis@npr.org.

Barack Obama And Bruce Springsteen On Their Belief In A Unifying Story For America

Barack Obama And Bruce Springsteen On Their Belief In A Unifying Story For America

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Bruce Springsteen, Michelle Obama and Barack Obama in the Blue Room before the Presidential Medal of Freedom ceremony on Nov. 22, 2016. It's one of many photos featured in the Renegades book. Pete Souza courtesy of the Barack Obama Presidential Library hide caption

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Pete Souza courtesy of the Barack Obama Presidential Library

Bruce Springsteen, Michelle Obama and Barack Obama in the Blue Room before the Presidential Medal of Freedom ceremony on Nov. 22, 2016. It's one of many photos featured in the Renegades book.

Pete Souza courtesy of the Barack Obama Presidential Library

Last summer, when former President Barack Obama and Bruce Springsteen sat down to tape their podcast, the country was facing a pandemic, joblessness and a contentious election.

And their conversations, they say, were an effort to offer some perspective and an attempt to try and find a unifying story for the country. The two talked about their dads, race, and the future of the country.

Those conversations have now become a book, titled Renegades: Born in the U.S.A. — and they spoke to Audie Cornish about it's publication.

You can watch a video of this interview and see images from the book here.

In participating regions, you'll also hear a local news segment that will help you make sense of what's going on in your community.

Email us at considerthis@npr.org.

This episode was produced by Matt Ozug and Brent Baughman. It was edited by Courtney Dorning and Fatma Tanis. Engineering help from Neil Tevault. Special thanks to Eric Marrapodi. Our executive producer is Cara Tallo.