Health Bill Hopes To Sway Reluctant Democrats The Senate needs 60 votes to bring its health care bill to the floor. To round up those votes, the bill unveiled Wednesday costs less than the House version, and delays the effective date for many provisions to 2014. Republicans are denouncing the cost cuts as mere gimmicks. Will those measures be enough to persuade wavering Democrats to vote at least to bring the bill up?
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The Senate needs 60 votes to bring its health care bill to the floor. To round up those votes, the bill unveiled Wednesday costs less than the House version, and delays the effective date for many provisions to 2014. Republicans are denouncing the cost cuts as mere gimmicks. Will those measures be enough to persuade wavering Democrats to vote at least to bring the bill up?


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Product rollouts are usually followed by intense campaigns to win over potential buyers. It's no different with the massive health care bill that Senate Democrats presented last night. Today, they were in full sales mode and it's not so much the Republicans they have to convince.

As NPR's David Welna reports, several Democrats are wavering and their votes are crucial.


DAVID WELNA: Senate Democratic leaders summoned reporters at the Capitol today to what was billed as a news conference on their newly released health care bill. But the room was also crammed with supporters. As senators stepped before the TV cameras, the event turned into a pep rally.


WELNA: Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid got a hero's welcome as architect of the new health bill, which combines legislation passed by two Senate committees. Reid made clear this was not an overture to win Republican votes.

HARRY REID: We reach out to our Republican colleagues, and we would like to work with them. But everyone should understand we're going to do a bill. We hope that we don't have to do it with Democrats, but if we have to we will.

WELNA: The question, though, is whether there are enough Democrats in Reid's 60-member caucus willing to cast the 60 votes needed to move the bill forward. Those still uncommitted include Louisiana's Mary Landrieu, Nebraska's Ben Nelson, and Arkansas' Blanche Lincoln. Reid today was making no predictions.

REID: We'll find out when the votes are taken.

WELAN: New York Democrat Chuck Schumer also sounded a note of caution.

CHUCK SCHUMER: We're not there yet, but we are in the territory that's very close to getting over the goal line.

WELNA: To help win over centrist Democrats worried about the cost of the bill, Reid pared it down to $849 billion over the next decade, that's $150 billion less than the price tag on the health care bill the House passed this month. But Senate Republicans today dismissed the cost-cutting as budget gimmicks. Here's Tennessee's Lamar Alexander.

LAMAR ALEXANDER: This is the same turkey that you saw in August and it's not going to taste any better in November. It's not much different than what worried you in August. In fact, it's gotten a little bit worse.

WELNA: Indeed many provisions in the Senate bill don't take effect until 2014, a year later than in the House bill. Republican leader Mitch McConnell today portrayed that cost-cutting measure as an absurd layaway plan.

MITCH MCCONNELL: We're being told we must rush to pass this legislation, even though most of its provisions won't take effect for another five years - until 2014. That's a little bit like being asked to pay your mortgage four years before you're allowed to move into your house.

WELNA: Pushing the startup date back to 2014 for such major items in the bill as the public option also has some Democrats upset. Among them, Iowa's Tom Harkin.

TOM HARKIN: I don't think it should take that long - 2011, 2012, minimum could be moved up a year.

WELNA: Still, Harkin says there are many provisions in the health care bill that will take effect much sooner if it becomes law.

HARKIN: All those people that have insurance now, health care insurance now, are going to see things happening to them in a good way next year. Next year they are going to say, oh, my gosh, you mean I can't get dropped because I have no more lifetime caps? That means I'm not going to get bankrupt? You mean my kids can stay on my policy?

WELNA: Harkin says that's one major reason why Republicans are fighting so hard to kill a health care overhaul as Congress heads into next year's mid-term elections battles. But with just 40 votes in the Senate, Republicans stand little chance of blocking health care legislation on their own or even modifying it. What the GOP is hoping for is at least one Senate Democrat breaking ranks and derailing the bill in a procedural vote that's slated for Saturday.

David Welna, NPR News, the Capitol.

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Consumers' Guide To The Health Bills

The health care overhaul debate in Congress now centers on two bills: the House measure and the Senate Democrats' version unveiled Wednesday. They differ in important ways. Here are answers to questions you may have about the bills:

Would the health care bills before Congress require that I obtain health insurance and punish me if I don't?

Starting in 2013 or 2014, most Americans would be required to have health insurance coverage or face a financial penalty. Individuals would have to show proof of coverage on their federal income tax returns. Exempt from this requirement would be those with low incomes – many of whom would be covered under an expanded Medicaid program – as well as Native Americans and individuals claiming a religious exemption.

The House would require most individuals to have coverage by 2013 or pay a penalty of up to 2.5 percent of their incomes. The penalty wouldn't exceed the cost of the average plan sold in new insurance exchanges. People who don't make enough money to file income taxes would be exempt.

The Senate requirement would take effect in July 2014. The penalty for not having coverage would be $95 in 2014, $350 in 2016 and $750 in 2017 and thereafter.

You would be exempt if the cost of insurance exceeded 8 percent of your income.

I own a business. Would I have to provide health insurance to my workers?

House and Senate bills handle the issue differently, but both impose some obligation on all but the smallest employers.

Under the House bill, companies with annual payrolls above $750,000 would be required to provide insurance or pay a fee equal to 8 percent of payroll. The fees would be lower for firms with payrolls between $500,000 and $750,000; companies with payrolls smaller than $500,000 would be exempt.

Under the Senate bill, employers wouldn't be required to provide coverage. But if any of their workers got government assistance in getting insurance, the employers would have to pay an annual fee of $750 for each of their employees. Companies with fewer than 50 workers would be exempt.

Both the House and Senate bills set requirements for what constitutes minimally adequate coverage. They are designed to prevent employers from pushing most of their premium costs on to their workers, while claiming to be providing insurance.

I like my health insurance. Can I keep it?

Both proposals would allow individuals and businesses to keep policies they already have. But if you want to switch insurers or change coverage, the new policies would have to meet certain minimum benefit standards, which may differ from what you have now.

I buy my own insurance. How would the legislation affect how much I pay?

Individuals would be able to purchase coverage through new state or national "exchanges" — regulated marketplaces that would offer several standardized types of plans from a variety of insurers and possibly a government-run option. New rules would bar insurers from varying premiums based on health status or gender, but would allow differences for age, geographic location and family size.

Premiums could go down for some people – those with health problems, for example — and rise for others, such as younger people. Both bills would also require annual review of insurers' rate increases and allow government regulators to bar from the exchange any insurer with "excessive" premium hikes. Federal subsidies could lower premiums if you qualify.

Would I be able to buy health insurance from the "public option" that I've heard so much about? What is it, anyway?

Maybe. Both bills make a public option — a government-run insurance plan — one of the choices offered to people eligible to buy coverage through either state or national exchanges. The Senate allows states to opt out of offering a public option. Uninsured people, and those who purchase their own coverage or work for eligible small businesses, would be able to buy through the exchange.

If you have job-based insurance, you probably would not be able to buy through the exchange, unless your portion of the premium exceeds 9.8 percent of your income in the Senate bill and 12 percent in the House bill. Over time, larger businesses may also be able to purchase through the exchange.

I can't afford health care coverage. What happens to me?

Under the Senate bill, if you make up to 133 percent of the poverty level, or $29,327 for a family of four, you would be eligible for Medicaid, the state-federal program for the poor and disabled. Those making a bit more – 150 percent of the poverty level — would be eligible under the House bill. Both bills would expand Medicaid.

If you aren't eligible for Medicaid, you could be eligible for government subsidies to help buy insurance. Under both the House and Senate bills, the assistance would be made available for people with incomes up to four times the poverty level, or about $88,000 for a family of four.

The subsidies would kick in once premiums exceed a certain percentage of annual incomes. That threshold would be on a sliding scale, with people at higher incomes expected to pay 12 percent of their incomes for insurance under the House bill and 9.8 percent under the Senate bill. But those thresholds would rise in future years if premiums grew faster than incomes—a likely scenario that would result in smaller subsidies down the line.

These subsidies aren't available if your employer provides coverage — except if your company expects you to pay a very large portion of the premiums. In that case, you can forgo your employer's coverage, buy insurance directly and be eligible for subsidies.

Would the health bills reduce my out-of-pocket costs?

The legislation provides new protections. Under both the House and Senate bills, for example, insurers could no longer impose annual or lifetime limits. In addition, under the House bill, individuals wouldn't pay more than $5,000 a year for deductibles and co-insurance. Families would have a $10,000 limit. The Senate bill sets higher limits. How much so won't be clear for a few years, but if the law were in place today, the caps would be $5,950 for individuals and $11,900 for families. Under both bills, out-of-pocket costs would be set lower for most people who qualify for government premium subsidies.

The bottom line: If you have exorbitant medical expenses now, you will probably pay less in out-of-pocket costs under the legislation. But if you shell out a few thousand dollars a year and don't qualify for government help, your out-of-pocket costs might not change under either bill.

I can't get insurance now because I have a pre-existing condition. Would that change?

Yes. Both bills would stop insurers from rejecting applicants with medical conditions once the exchanges are operational — 2013 in the House bill and 2014 in the Senate version. The House bill creates a temporary high-risk pool that would start immediately for people who have been rejected for coverage and others with pre-existing medical conditions.

It would also immediately shorten the time — from a year to three months — that insurers could exclude coverage of certain pre-existing medical conditions under group policies. Both bills would also bar insurers from retroactively canceling policies of individuals who fall ill with costly conditions for reasons other than fraud.

My current insurance doesn't cover certain conditions. Would this change?

New policies sold through the exchange must cover a range of benefits, including hospitalization, doctor visits, prescription drugs, maternity care and certain preventive tests. Some of those benefits may not be included in policies currently purchased by some individuals and small businesses.

I'm over 65. How would the legislation affect seniors?

Under both bills, government payments to Medicare Advantage, the private-plan part of Medicare, would be cut back. If you are one of the 10 million beneficiaries covered by those private plans, you might lose benefits such as free eyeglasses, hearing aids and gym memberships.

However, both bills would eliminate all Medicare co-payments on preventive services, such as screenings for colon, prostate and breast cancer. In addition, the Medicare prescription drug benefit would be improved under both bills.

The Senate bill would create an independent commission to recommend ways to restrain Medicare spending. The House does not.

Will my taxes go up to pay for this?

It depends how much you earn - both bills would increase taxes for affluent Americans.

To increase coverage and pay for subsidies, the House-passed bill would cost about $1.1 trillion over a decade, while the new Senate bill comes in at $848 billion. The House would impose as much as a 5.4 percent surtax on individuals earning more than $500,000 a year and couples making more than $1 million.

The Senate bill would increase the Medicare payroll tax by 0.5 percent for individuals with annual incomes of over $200,000 and couples earning more than $250,000. It would also tax insurers on health policies with premiums over $8,500 for individuals and $23,000 for families. Some critics of the provision argue that it could some affect middle- and lower-income people with high-value health plans.

This story was produced through collaboration between NPR and Kaiser Health News (KHN), an editorially independent program of the Henry J. Kaiser Family Foundation, a nonpartisan health-care policy research organization. The Kaiser Family Foundation is not affiliated with Kaiser Permanente.