U.S., British Ambassadors Wager On World Cup Game Ambassadors Louis Susman and Sir Nigel Sheinwald talk to Deborah Amos about their wager ahead of the U.S.-England World Cup soccer match Saturday in South Africa. Sheinwald is the British ambassador to the U.S., and Susman is the U.S. ambassador to the Court of Saint James.
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U.S., British Ambassadors Wager On World Cup Game

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U.S., British Ambassadors Wager On World Cup Game

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Ambassadors Louis Susman and Sir Nigel Sheinwald talk to Deborah Amos about their wager ahead of the U.S.-England World Cup soccer match Saturday in South Africa. Sheinwald is the British ambassador to the U.S., and Susman is the U.S. ambassador to the Court of Saint James.

DEBORAH AMOS, Host:

Good morning, sir.

LOUIS SUSMAN: Good afternoon here. But good morning there.

AMOS: And British ambassador to the United States, Sir Nigel Sheinwald, is with me in Washington.

NIGEL SHEINWALD: Good morning. I have the home advantage, I see.

AMOS: Indeed. Ambassador Sheinwald, what do you have on the table?

SHEINWALD: What we have on the table is a bet, a wager, between the two ambassadors. In the event of an England victory, which frankly the world is expecting - and which I certainly am expecting - my colleague and friend, Lou Susman in London, is going to entertain me at a steakhouse of his choosing here in Washington, D.C. And in the very unlikely event that America wins this, then there's going to be a pub dinner in London. So that's the bet. That's what's at stake here.

AMOS: Ambassador SUSMAN: That sounds like a diplomatic equivalent of trash talk. Have you agreed to those terms?

SUSMAN: I have agreed to those terms. And I'm anxiously looking to pick out the pub of my choice. This confidence factor, I sense from my colleague on Saturday's game, was somewhat déjàvu from what happened in the last time we played together.

AMOS: That was 1950s, correct?

SUSMAN: That's correct. And if I'm not mistaken, I think we won that game 1-0.

SHEINWALD: I have to say, as someone who was a schoolboy in 1966 when we won the World Cup, that as a fan, I've often been disappointed. So as ambassador, I'm confident. As a fan, I worry a bit, because the England teams have sometimes disappointed in the years following our great victory in '66.

SUSMAN: I do think one thing, putting the levity aside. I think it's wonderful that both countries have this kind of enthusiasm and excitement. And it's great for America and it's great for England.

AMOS: There's something about this special relationship, I think, that allows you two gentlemen to do a little trash talking. Do you think that that does open the door for you two to have this kind of chat about soccer?

SHEINWALD: I'm sure that Saturday's game will be a good game. Probably quiet a close game. But I'm very, very confident, as British ambassador, what the result will be.

AMOS: Now, one result we do know, there will be a dinner. It will either be in a pub or it will be in a steakhouse. Do you two intend to wear your pinstripe suits as sports fans?

SHEINWALD: No. I expect to wear my England shirt.

AMOS: And you, Ambassador?

SUSMAN: I expect to wear my American winning shirt.

AMOS: Excellent. I hope that we can talk to you at dinner.

SUSMAN: Thank you.

AMOS: I'd like to thank you both of you for joining us. U.S. ambassador to the Court of Saint James, Louis Susman, thank you for joining us.

SUSMAN: Thank you.

AMOS: British ambassador to the U.S., Sir Nigel Sheinwald, thank you very much for being with us.

SHEINWALD: Thanks so much.

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