Look Inside A Famous Person Each clue is a pair of four-letter words. Each can be found inside the first and last names, respectively, of a famous person. For example, given "rend" and "rase," the answer would be "Brendan Fraser," the actor.
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Look Inside A Famous Person

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And joining us is puzzlemaster Will Shortz. Hey, Will.

WILL SHORTZ: Hey, Liane.

HANSEN: Have you ever used the word Twitter in a crossword puzzle? I mean, not the sound the bird makes, but, you know, that social network community?

SHORTZ: Yeah, I haven't yet. No, I was a pioneer with podcasting. I used that just right out of the box.


SHORTZ: But haven't had occasion to use Twitter. Why?

HANSEN: Someone asked. I entered the Twitter-verse this week and wait till you hear who gave me some tips on how to tweet. You'll hear that later on in this hour. So first of all, let's start our puzzle. What was the challenge that you gave us last week?

SHORTZ: Yes. I said think of a six-letter word in which the third letter is S. Remove the S and you'll be left with a five-letter word that means the opposite of the six-letter one. And as a hint, I said the six-letter word has two syllables, the five-letter word has one. What words are these?

HANSEN: And what words are these?

SHORTZ: It's resign and reign. He might resign a job, or a king might resign or reign.

HANSEN: Hi, Dan. I did pronounce your last night right, didn't I?

DAN SHAPIRO: Oh, yeah.

HANSEN: Because I know someone named Shapiro, so I'm always very careful. How long did it take you to solve the puzzle?

SHAPIRO: What's typical for me is I will start thinking about the puzzle right away. And I spent maybe five minutes or so pondering it and didn't get anywhere. The next day I had a spare moment. I was walking through the house maybe carrying a laundry basket or something exciting like that, and it came to me in about 12 seconds.

HANSEN: Yeah. Yeah. Oftentimes, when I'm doing a crossword puzzle, for example, and I get stuck, I'll put it down. And then I'll pick it up again, and all of sudden, dawn breaks over marblehead. So, it's kind of nice.


HANSEN: How long have you been playing our puzzle?

SHAPIRO: Well, as a friend of mine used to say, since Hector was a pup.


SHAPIRO: I think it goes back to the days when Will was the editor of Games magazine.

HANSEN: Way back.


SHAPIRO: Back in the 1980s.

HANSEN: Yeah. Late '80s. Absolutely.


HANSEN: Absolutely. Well, it sounds like you're in good shape to play our puzzle. You ready?


HANSEN: All right. Will, meet Dan. Let's play.

SHORTZ: All right, Dan and Liane, this is a good two-person puzzle. I'm going to give you two four-letter words, each can be found inside the first and last names, respectively, of a famous person, past or present. For example, if I said rend, R-E-N-D, and rase, R-A-S-E, you would say Brendan Fraser, as in the actor.

HANSEN: Right.

SHORTZ: Here's number one is arlo, A-R-L-O, and rand, R-A-N-D.

SHAPIRO: Oh, Marlon Brando.

SHORTZ: Marlon Brando is right.


SHORTZ: Good. Number two is lady, L-A-D-Y and nigh, N-I-G-H.

SHAPIRO: Gladys Knight.

SHORTZ: Gladys Knight.


SHORTZ: You're next one is meld, M-E-L-D, and arco, A-R-C-O.

SHAPIRO: Imelda Marcos.

SHORTZ: That was fast. Now, they start to get harder 'cause you have to start adding more letters. And this one is acid, A-C-I-D, and ming, M-I-N-G, as in a Ming vase.

SHAPIRO: And these are longer words now?

SHORTZ: Yeah. This is one's seven...


SHORTZ: ...seven, seven.

SHAPIRO: I'm sorry. I figured it out, Will.


SHAPIRO: I didn't mean to cut you off. Placido Domingo.

HANSEN: Good job.

SHORTZ: That's correct. Else, E-L-S-E, and lint, L-I-N-T.

SHAPIRO: Oh, Kelsey Grammer doesn't work.


SHAPIRO: Oh, Chelsea Clinton.

SHORTZ: Chelsea Clinton. Good one. Here's your next one, list, L-I-S-T, and lock, L-O-C-K.

SHAPIRO: Oh, Calista...


SHAPIRO: ...Flockhart.

HANSEN: Flockhart, well done.

SHORTZ: Calista Flockhart. Good. Rove, R-O-V-E, and elan, E-L-A-N.

SHAPIRO: Grover Cleveland.

SHORTZ: Grover Cleveland. Good. Rook, R-O-O-K, and bins, B-I-N-S, like the storage containers.

SHAPIRO: Oh, Brooks Robinson?

SHORTZ: Brooks Robinson, Baseball Hall of Famer, good.

HANSEN: My, Dan.


SHORTZ: Try this one, pole, P-O-L-E.

SHAPIRO: P as in Peter?

SHORTZ: Right. And part, P-A-R-T. Like a part of something.

SHAPIRO: Napoleon Bonaparte.

SHORTZ: Oh, yeah.


SHORTZ: And here's your last one bell, B-E-L-L, the thing you ring, and sell, S-E-L-L. And here we're going for eight-letter first name and 10-letter last name.

SHAPIRO: Isabel?

SHORTZ: Yes, Isabella.

SHAPIRO: Oh, Isabella. Help me out, Liane.

HANSEN: You have it, Rossellini.

SHORTZ: Rossellini. Nice work.

HANSEN: Nice work. Good team.

SHAPIRO: Hey, a handshake across the phone line here.

HANSEN: Absolutely. And Dan, you did so - do you want a job?


HANSEN: Puzzle, yeah? You want to come back and replace me? Because I was just sitting here, going, uh, when you were doing it.


HANSEN: Oh, nice job. Nice job. So, to tell you what you're going to take home today, for playing our puzzle, I'll tell you this gentleman is a big fan of crossword puzzles. And Will, he's actually bought some of your books for wife.

SHORTZ: All right.

HANSEN: He also happens to be a master on the Hammond B-3 organ. And he has played back-up for such greats as Otis Redding. And we have an interview later in the show. But Dan, you did so well, you get the first taste. Here's Booker T. with your puzzle prizes.


BOOKER T: For playing the puzzle today, you'll get a WEEKEND EDITION lapel pin - that's a little bit of a tongue twister - the 11th Edition of Merriam-Webster's Collegiate Dictionary and Thesaurus, the Scrabble Deluxe Edition from Parker Brothers, the "Puzzlemaster Presents" from Random House Volume 2. Will Shortz's latest book series, "Will Shortz Presents KenKen," Volumes 1, 2 and 3 from St. Martin's Press. And one of Will Shortz's "Puzzlemaster Decks of Riddles and Challenges" from Chronicle Books.

HANSEN: What do you think, Dan? Words and music.

SHAPIRO: I really am impressed and I know that he has a new album out and I'm eager to hear the interview.

HANSEN: All right. Well, that's what we're going to be talking about. But before we let you go, Dan, you have to tell us what member station you listen to.

SHAPIRO: We are members of KLCC, which is just down the road in Eugene, Oregon.

HANSEN: And the magic word, members. Dan Shapiro of Corvallis, Oregon, thanks a lot for playing the puzzle with us today.

SHAPIRO: Thanks, Liane, and thank you, Will.


SHORTZ: Thanks, Dan.

HANSEN: Will, we need another challenge to work on over the holiday weekend.

SHORTZ: So, again, a famous person whose first and last names each have seven letters. Only two different consonants appear in the full name. And out of the 14 letters, 13 of them appear in the first half of the alphabet. Name this famous person.

HANSEN: All right, good luck, puzzlers. When you have the answer, go to our Web site npr.org/puzzle, click on the Submit Your Answer link. Only one entry per person, please. Our deadline this week is Thursday, 3 p.m. Eastern Time. Please include a phone number where we can reach you at about that time, and we'll call you if you're the winner. And you'll get to play puzzle on the air with the puzzle editor of The New York Times and WEEKEND EDITION's puzzlemaster, Will Shortz. Thanks a lot, Will.

SHORTZ: Thanks, Liane.

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