In Sweat Lodge, Vets Find Healing 'Down To The Core' Salt Lake City's Veterans Affairs center is one of just a handful where veterans can participate in Native American sweat lodge ceremonies. Over the years, these ceremonies have drawn men and women who have served in wars from Vietnam to Afghanistan. In the sweats, veterans say, they find relief.
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Now, to a familiar affliction suffered by veterans and an unusual treatment. We hear a lot these days about post traumatic stress disorder, or PTSD. It can lead veterans to substance abuse, violence, even suicide. While doctors and researchers try to develop new treatments, one group of veterans in Salt Lake City is finding relief in an old tradition. Our story comes from Taki Telonidis of the Western Folk Life Center.

TAKI TELONIDIS, BYLINE: If you didn't know to peer over the six-foot brick wall next to a parking lot at the Salt Lake VA center, you'd never guess it was there - a Native American sweat lodge.

CAL BENCH: I'm getting all of everyone's (unintelligible).

TELONIDIS: It's Friday afternoon, and like he does every week, Cal Bench, a Vietnam vet, is here early, gathering firewood for the ceremony that will start in a few hours.

BENCH: I went into the service at 18, I went to Vietnam at 19. And I had no idea how it would change or affect you mentally. The concept that I would carry that around forever was just hard. But I just never had any place to turn. I came here and I was given a blessing.

TELONIDIS: Cal started coming to these sweats in 2005 to cope with anxieties related to his combat experience. He found relief in the sweat, as well as a spiritual connection that's kept him coming back. This VA is one of just a handful in the country that offers them. A sweat is a ceremony conducted by a Native American spiritual leader in a dome-shaped structure, or lodge. Sweats are common in Indian country.

ARNOLD THOMAS: It's healing right down to the core of that veteran.

TELONIDIS: Arnold Thomas is a medicine man from the Shoshone Paiute tribe and has training in social work and chaplaincy. He has conducted the veteran sweats at the VA since 2004.

THOMAS: When they've been overseas in combat, there's a part of them that is left there. So when we had the ceremonies, there are certain prayer songs that I offer and make that effort to bring their spirit back home.

TELONIDIS: Over the years, these ceremonies, originally intended for Native American vets, have drawn more and more non-natives, men and women from several wars - Vietnam, the Gulf War, Afghanistan and Iraq. And while the sweats aren't a good fit for every vet who tries them, there's a core group who have added these ceremonies to their medical and psychological treatments.

The VA has taken note of their benefits and in February, moved the sweats from the substance abuse program to chaplain services, so they'd be more widely available to vets with PTSD.

THOMAS: Looking at the astounding rates of suicides within the military over the last few years, what I'm reminded is all people have the ability to reason, unless they're grieving. So, oftentimes, I ask the veterans, if you can't reason, what is it you're grieving? And we sit down and I allow that space for them to talk about those feelings, those memories. And I say, well, turn that thought, that emotion, intertwine it into a prayer, so you can let it go.

TELONIDIS: As one man brushes clean the 53 stones that have been selected for tonight's sweat, Steve Rich prepares the fire pit which sits next to the lodge. He is a Gulf War veteran with PTSD and he is going through the VA's substance abuse program.

STEVE RICH: Since Iraq in 1991, I've carried around a couple of, I'd guess you'd say, spirits of - one was a friend who was lost over there and the other was an enemy soldier that I killed.

TELONIDIS: For 20 years, those memories haunted Steve, to the point that he started to abuse alcohol. Then, a few months ago, his substance abuse counselor at the VA suggested attending a sweat and bringing those spirits in with him.

RICH: So I did, and beginning of the sweat, Arnold the Shaman sings a song that is to call the spirits to the lodge. And so, throughout the ceremony that night, I just, you know, imagined them sitting there with me and speaking with me. And got a lot of closure, I guess you'd say, with that. So at the end of the ceremony, Arnold will do a song that's sending the spirits back to their homes, the spirit world.

So when we did that song, I let go of them and released them. And to say it best, I've been walking around with this backpack with this weight in it, you know, and doing that I was able to take off the backpack and just set it down and continue on my path, you know.

TELONIDIS: The fire has been crackling for about two hours now and the stones are beginning to glow red. The sun is low on the horizon, and veterans from the Vietnam War to Afghanistan begin to arrive and mingle around the fire. Most are familiar faces, but tonight, Arnold welcomes a newcomer.

THOMAS: How long you been in the program?

JARED HOOKER: Days, 14 days.

THOMAS: OK. Are you going to sweat?

Yes, sir.

TELONIDIS: Jared Hooker served in Iraq. And though he's been back for several years, he has struggled to come to terms with one particular memory, trying to save a friend whose tank was hit right in front of him.

HOOKER: As we was pulling him out, his helmet fell off and a big chunk of his skull fell off onto the floor. Blood everywhere. It was chaos. It was just - I mean, we killed a lot of people in Iraq, but I was never really exposed to - that close to someone that I knew.

TELONIDIS: This happened at the end of Jared's tour. And within a month, he was back home in the States with his family.

HOOKER: And I felt like I seemed normal. But just having conversations with people, instantly they're like, dude, we love you and we miss you, man, but you're different. What do you mean I'm different? How am I different? You know, 'cause I was in that mindset. I was still hyper vigilant driving.

TELONIDIS: Jared says he'd swerve his truck whenever he saw trash on the street, for fear it concealed a bomb. He was uncomfortable in public places like restaurants. He started drinking and getting into fights.

HOOKER: I remember growing up I hadn't been in a fight all through my high school career. Then when I came back from Iraq, I was ready to throw down with anybody for any reason.

TELONIDIS: And the drinking got worse.

HOOKER: I hated my life. I drank every night so I could go to sleep and pass out.

TELONIDIS: Then came trouble with the police and several arrests, including one that landed him in jail for three-and-a-half months.

HOOKER: And it really gave me enough time in jail to realize that if I don't stop doing what I'm doing, eventually someone's going to kill me or I'm going end up killing myself.

TELONIDIS: So in all of this narrative - your story of what you've been through, coming back - how important is tonight to you?

HOOKER: It is very important to me. You know, I'm willing to try anything, you know. And so, I'm hopeful that this will at least let me get in touch with who I really am, and not this monster I've become of being violent and wreaking havoc on other people because I'm hurting.


TELONIDIS: There's a feeling of anticipation in the air, as medicine man Arnold Thomas gathers the rattles and drum he'll use for the ceremony.

THOMAS: So I'll pass this tobacco around and take some out and pass it around. And it'll be about 15, 20 minutes and we'll go ahead and get going...

TELONIDIS: The veterans quietly go off to change. The men put on swim shorts, and the women wrap themselves in sheets that they wear like a toga. The medicine man enters the lodge and the veterans line up in front of the small opening.

UNIDENTIFIED MAN: (unintelligible), all my relations.

TELONIDIS: Two helpers are busy bringing the glowing stones into the lodge from the fire pit, scooping them out with a pitchfork, brushing off the embers, and carefully walking them into the center of the lodge.

THOMAS: (Singing)

TELONIDIS: Arnold leads the group in a prayer song that gives thanks to the trees for giving us oxygen to breathe, fruit for sustenance and wood for shelter. The intensity of the song builds with each repetition, until he stops singing then asks the assistants to seal the entrance with heavy fabric.

OK, they're about to close it up. So I'm going to turn off.

Inside the lodge, it's pitch black and the group of about 20 sits in a tightly packed circle as the medicine man pours water onto the stones to create steam. For the next several hours he leads the group in a series of songs and prayers. Three times during the ceremony, the entrance is uncovered to let in the cool night air. A faint light from the nearby parking lot slants through the billowing steam, lighting the group in silhouette for those few minutes.

During one of these breaks, the medicine man pulls out a clutch of eagle feathers, then asks the new veteran to stand and walk over to him. He says a blessing, then with the feathers, makes scraping motions over Jared's entire body, from head to toe, cleansing him of war.

For NPR News, I'm Taki Telonidis in Salt Lake City.

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