Author Interview: Benjamin Alire Saenz, Author Of 'Everything Begins And Ends At The Kentucky Club' Benjamin Alire Saenz won this year's PEN/Faulkner award for his latest collection of short stories, Everything Begins and Ends at the Kentucky Club. The real-life Kentucky Club is just south of the U.S.-Mexico border, and Saenz joined a reporter there to talk about life in two countries.
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Just across the Rio Grande from El Paso, Texas, a few blocks into Mexico sits an old Prohibition era bar. It's called the Kentucky Club and it's a legendary spot that's long attracted customers from both sides of the border. It's also the place that weaves together a collection of short stories by the American writer who won this year's prestigious PEN/Faulkner Award.

Monica Ortiz Uribe, of member station KJZZ, joined the author on a trip to his favorite bar.

MONICA ORTIZ URIBE, BYLINE: We're walking across the bridge that links downtown El Paso to Ciudad Juarez. For a Saturday night it's hauntingly still. What used to be a border crossing flush with life is now, after years of brutal drug violence, like a graveyard. It's not the border author Benjamin Alire Sáenz recalls from his high school days.

ALIRE SAENZ: We'd all pile in a couple of cars. There'd be like 10 of us and we'd come over to Juarez, and we'd go to all these places like The Cave, The Club Hawaii, the Kentucky Club and we would just have a good time and laugh.

URIBE: Ciudad Juarez is a sprawling city of more than a million people. It lies directly south of El Paso like a muddled reflection off a mostly arid Rio Grande River. This is home for Saenz. The border is more than just a place in his stories, it's a silent but ever present character. His latest book, "Everything Begins and Ends at the Kentucky Club," introduces readers to a famous a Juarez bar, which is our destination tonight.


URIBE: Unlike the border bridge, the Kentucky Club is pulsing with energy. With a declining murder rate in Juarez, locals are going out again. Most Americans, though, are still reluctant to return.


URIBE: Behind the grand oak bar, a one-eyed bartender in a white collared shirt stirs up the Kentucky Club's signature drink.


URIBE: Locals like to brag that this is the birthplace of the margarita, a disputed claim at best. This place has been around since 1920 when prohibition drew in throngs of thirsty Americans. I ask Saenz why he picked the Kentucky Club for his book.

SAENZ: It's the knot that has for generations tied the two cities of Juarez and El Paso together. That's why this place, because it's still here.

URIBE: His book is not about the Kentucky Club. It's just the place where his characters like to end up. The book is about the lives of people on the border - those who slide between two countries as if they were two neighborhoods. There are love stories, stories about drug addiction, coming of age, and identity.

SAENZ: Imagine someone in El Paso loving someone in Juarez and imagine that person getting killed. That happens, that's happened. So I just put it in a story.

URIBE: Saenz's publisher is a small family-run company in El Paso, called Cinco Puntos Press. They take pride in publishing authors with diverse backgrounds, whose work often carries a political message. John Byrd runs the shop with his parents.

JOHN BYRD: I think that too often news and information about the border is generated away from the border and so what we're hoping to do is to allow the border to speak for itself.

URIBE: Saenz grew up on the border. At 26 he became a Catholic priest, a calling that lasted only three years. After that, his future belonged to writing. His 19 works include poetry, children's books and novels.

A.J. Verdelle is a fellow writer and a judge for PEN/Faulkner Foundation. She helped chose Saenz's book out of 351 entries.

A.J. VERDELLE: I felt like I was reading about the United States and Mexico. I felt like I was reading about permanence and transference that is crossing back and forth. There's a tremendous tension of duality in this book and it definitely made the book better and more complex.


URIBE: Back at the Kentucky Club, Saenz takes a long drag from a cigarette. As William Faulkner wrote about the American South, he says, he writes about the American border.

SAENZ: We're people who feel and breathe and die and suffer and hope for salvation and yearn for love. We're not just a newspaper headline.

URIBE: Saenz and four finalists for the PEN/Faulkner award will be honored in May at a public ceremony in Washington, D.C.

For NPR News, I'm Mónica Ortiz Uribe in El Paso.

MONTAGNE: And that story came to us from Fronteras, a public radio collaboration in the Southwest that focuses on the border and changing demographics.



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