Big Songs, Big Hype (Oh Yeah, They're Women) : The Record Three heavily hyped new bands have little in common, except being led by women. How important is that?
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If you're just joining us, this is WEEKENDS on ALL THINGS CONSIDERED from NPR News. I'm Kelly McEvers. And it's time now for music.


SAVAGES: (Singing) Oh, I woke up and I saw the face of a guy. I don't know who he was, he had no eyes.

MCEVERS: We first heard about this band during the South by Southwest music festival back in March. Their first record is coming out on Tuesday. They're called Savages. They're from England. All four members are women. They're part of a wave of all-female British groups that are kind of a big deal right now. But as much as you might want to call this some kind of girl group revolution, maybe that's not what it is. Music writer Lizzy Goodman joins us from our New York studios. Hey, Lizzy.


MCEVERS: So obviously, we're talking about these bands because they're either all women or they're led by women. But you say that's not necessarily why they're interesting.

GOODMAN: Yeah. I feel like in rock and roll, you know, a standard thing to hear is: Hey, there's this awesome new all-girl band from Brooklyn, or: Oh, my God, there's this amazing band coming out of Detroit right now. They have this super foxy chick front woman, you know? And that's not what we're hearing here.

The distinguishing factor is that you're talking about a bunch of different groups coming all from kind of the same general part of the world but who really have nothing in common with each other aside from the fact that there are women in all of these bands and yet that is not the first thing that we're hearing when we talk about them. And I think that sort of lack of story is a sign of a big story, if you will.

MCEVERS: Tell us about this band, Savages.

GOODMAN: Well, their name is very subtle. That's the first thing you notice about them. It's apt. They're one of the best-named bands I've seen in a while. They really are savage. They formed in London, and they all kind of have a sort of post-punk androgyny to their look that really matches their sound. You can really hear the kind of Siouxsie and the Banshees, Joy Division, Wire influence - these bands from the U.K. in the late '70s who had a ferocity that I think Savages is really picking up on.


MCEVERS: Wow. I'm totally in college. That is definitely Siouxsie and the Banshees. I'm like at a really bad party with watery beer.

GOODMAN: Sounds fantastic.

MCEVERS: So that's from Savages' live EP. That one's called "I Am Here." So, Lizzy, I know the British newspaper The Guardian had a good description of this next band. They're the most Brooklyn band ever to come from Manchester. Tell us about PINS.

GOODMAN: Yeah. I love that line. I think what they're referencing there is among the bands that have been coming out of Brooklyn lately are a kind of lo-fi, poppy, maybe '60s girl group influenced but as if they're all on heroin or something, like - kind of like a muted version of that sound.

And PINS really has that. They have a kind of mellow soulfulness to them, but it's also very dark. And that's the Manchester element, a kind of drony pop sound that is also very distinctive. You hear it in my favorite, so far, of theirs called "Eleventh Hour."


MCEVERS: It is so tempting to have this, like, they're-the-girl-version-of-X reaction. Like, oh, girl Joy Division. I mean, that's what I want to say when I hear this.

GOODMAN: Yeah. I have actually written that. And so you do find yourself going: Oh dear. Am I doing that cliched rock journalist thing of kind of wrapping it all up in a neat bow? But, I mean, I don't really have a problem with that. I think what's distinctive about what we're seeing with these groups is that we're treating them like we treat the boys, you know? That's what you do with boy bands. Oh, they sound sort of like this other thing I used to like.

But, you know, in the case of Savages or PINS, a Joy Division comparison is really apt with Savages. And, guess what, Joy Division was fronted by a dude. So, you know, it really does feel like what's distinctive about these bands that we're talking about is how they are united by their lack of sonic similarity, by their lack of even geographical similarity.

They're all from different places, and they all look very different, and they have different aesthetics. And that's what makes them interesting together.

MCEVERS: Again, that's the band PINS with a track called "Eleventh Hour." I'm speaking with music writer Lizzy Goodman about the wave of female-fronted bands coming out of the U.K. these days. Lizzy, so I guess what you're saying is they don't all sound punk.

GOODMAN: They don't. You know, the next band we're going to hear, Chvrches, who are from Glasgow, they have this kind of very sunny, jangly, electro-pop, synth-pop vibe. And it's very different from the moodiness that you're hearing with these other bands but also fronted by a woman, Lauren Mayberry, and two, kind of, techno musicians on her side. But there's this solid kind of steeliness that she has that I do think is related to the punk ethos. But the music is distinctly light.


CHVRCHES: (Singing) I'll give you one more chance to say we can change our old ways. You can take what you need and you know you don't need me.

GOODMAN: And when we say Chvrches, keep in mind that the spelling of the band's name is a little weird. It's C-H-V-R-C-H-E-S, and that's for exactly, you know, Google search engine result reasons. They don't want you to Google them and find cathedrals in the south of France. They want you to actually find their band.

MCEVERS: And, as we know for a long time, girls can do pop music. That's for sure.

GOODMAN: Yeah. That's no secret. We're not breaking any big news there. And, you know, we've known for a while that girls can do rock music too. What's different is almost really the response to women making these varied types of music. It's not so much that women haven't done it before. It's how we as a culture are reacting to it.

It's like, oh, there's a bunch of new cool bands coming out of the U.K. And you hear something on the radio or you hear something on a blog, and then you - it takes a Google to realize that, hey, wait a minute, this is an all-girl band. That's not the number one thing getting mentioned about these groups right now. And that's what distinguishes them.


CHVRCHES: (Singing) ...what you need and you don't need me. I'll give you one more chance...

MCEVERS: That was Chvrches with the track "Recover," and we've been talking with writer Lizzy Goodman. She's a columnist at MTV Hive and a regular contributor to Elle magazine and The New York Times magazine. Lizzy, thank you so much.

GOODMAN: Thank you.


CHVRCHES: (Singing) I'll come clean. Everywhere everyone knows it's me. And if I recover, will you be my cover, or it will be over, or we can just leave it here. So pick any number, choose any color, I've got the answer...

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