Author Interview: Mary Louise Roberts, Author Of 'What Soldiers Do' Historian Mary Louise Roberts' new book explores the interactions between soldiers and French women after the U.S. liberated France. She found that American soldiers horrified some towns by having sex with prostitutes in public places, and 1944 saw a wave of rape accusations against GIs.
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Sex Overseas: 'What Soldiers Do' Complicates WWII History

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This is ALL THINGS CONSIDERED from NPR News. I'm Melissa Block.


And I'm Robert Siegel.

Historian Mary Louise Roberts says she has written a book that can make our memories of the Second World War - the good war as we often think of it - more truthful and more complex. Her book is called "What Soldiers Do: Sex and the American GI in World War II France."

It's a story of relations between American men and French women in Normandy and elsewhere. The Americans were liberators, the French were liberated. But sex created tensions and resentments that were serious and were utterly absent from contemporary accounts for American audiences back home.


UNIDENTIFIED MALE: With the streets cleared, the victors formally enter the city.

Everyone gathers for a joyful liberation celebration. Yanks and French join in the celebration. Here's a French Betsy Ross. The children have made American flags from paper, coloring them with watercolors. They have learned a song to honor our boys.

UNIDENTIFIED GROUP: (Singing in foreign language)

SIEGEL: Mary Louise Roberts, who is professor of European history at the University of Wisconsin-Madison, joins us now. Welcome...


SIEGEL: the program. And to put it mildly, it wasn't entirely grateful Normans and respectful GIs in liberated Normandy.

ROBERTS: I think it's a matter of chronology. I think that initially the Normans were incredibly grateful to be liberated. They had also suffered a lot of loss that summer, so there was some anger about the destruction of their homes and the loss of their loved ones. But in general, at least at the beginning, the French were very happy to be liberated and to greet the Americans.

SIEGEL: Then you report complaints by, say, the mayor of Le Havre who's complaining about American GIs having sex in public with French prostitutes so much so that a family can't take children out for a walk anymore.

ROBERTS: Yes. That happened in the summer of 1945, so a year later. Le Havre was a port, really the entry and exit port for millions of American soldiers during those years. Those soldiers who had been fighting in France and Germany came back to Le Havre waiting for a boat home. They were, as a group, exhausted and traumatized.

Their lost friends crowded their dreams. They were consumed by guilt. So they took to whoring with French women as a way to keep away the demons, at least for a while. And without a proper or regulated system of brothels, they instead took to the streets, abandoned buildings, parks and cemeteries having sex.

SIEGEL: Your title, "What Soldiers Do," implies that hundreds of thousands of men far from home flirting with death have sex with prostitutes. But you also write sex was fundamental to have the U.S. military framed, fought and won the war in Europe. Which was it, the behavior of the universal soldier or something unique to that army and that place?

ROBERTS: It was a particularly eroticized war. Anybody who remembers the pinups on airplanes, Rita Hayworth, the amount to which pinups became a part of the culture of the GIs will recognize to what extent sex became important to the war experience. I went and looked at Stars and Stripes, which is the trench journal, and what I saw there was an extension of the pinup culture. Photojournalism in particular was used to portray the French woman as ready to be rescued, ready to greet the American soldier and ready to congratulate and thank him through a kiss or even more.

SIEGEL: And as the Americans were multiplying in force in Normandy, young French women came from all over the country to prostitute themselves.

ROBERTS: Yes, that's true. I would have to say that prostitution was pervasive in the European theater. There was one Army report that estimated 80 percent of single men and 50 percent of married men would have sex during their stay in Europe. And the U.S. military did not really care that much that it occurred. What it cared about was venereal disease, which soon after the GIs' arrivals in France began to soar to unacceptable levels. But all this was kept from the American public.

SIEGEL: The other issue you address is rape. In the summer of 1944, you write, there was in Normandy a wave or rape accusations by French women against American soldiers. And the U.S. Army's response, as you recount it, was to frame it essentially as a race problem. I want you to describe what happened.

ROBERTS: What happened was the American Army and the juridical system attached to the Army, the JAG office, disproportionately blamed African-American soldiers. Seventy-seven percent of the court-martial prosecutions in the European theater were for African-Americans. They were only 10 percent of the troops.

SIEGEL: We're talking, though, about trials that would take place almost instantly after an accusation.

ROBERTS: Yes. Sometimes three days afterwards.

SIEGEL: And then there were quite a few summary executions by hanging.

ROBERTS: That's right. Many of the men were hung in the towns where the rape - alleged rape occurred. And the hanging was a difficult thing to do in the land of the guillotine, so the U.S. Army actually brought in their own hangman from Texas. I found a file in the National Archives which dealt with this.

SIEGEL: Yes. He came with his ropes from...

ROBERTS: He came with his rope, yes. Grisly, very grisly.

SIEGEL: What you've done here is you've described the liberation of France not from the perspective we're accustomed to seeing it told from. This is from the perspective of the French?


SIEGEL: And a very female perspective as well of what's going on. And the war comes out a lot more nuanced in terms of its virtues after we read your book. How do you, as a historian, integrate your sense of this heroic crossing of the English Channel, one of the most - the greatest military exercises in human history and the perhaps inevitable behavior of the troops once they were in France?

BLOCK: Well, I guess like many people I was somewhat surprised when I found out that the GIs were not impeccable soldiers. I began to look at documents in France that were only opened in January of 2005, and in many cases I was the first American to look at them. I grew up in a very patriotic family. My father is a veteran of the Second World War. So all this was difficult for me. But I actually also have to say that there's nothing in my book that tries to condemn or denigrate that great moment.

ROBERTS: What I'm trying to do is give a fuller picture by looking at how the event was seen by the French, to make it richer and more complex. And to me really good history portrays an event not in a sanitized way, but as a way in which you can allow yourself to think of soldiers as human beings.

SIEGEL: Lou Roberts - Mary Louise Roberts, thanks a lot for talking with us today.

ROBERTS: It was a pleasure. Thank you very much.

SIEGEL: Professor Roberts' book is called "What Soldiers Do: Sex and the American GI in World War II France."

BLOCK: This is NPR News.

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