Interview: Dave Eggers And Nyuol Tong, Editor And Contributor, 'The Best Of McSweeney's' Timothy McSweeney's Quarterly Concern, a literary journal known for publishing experimental fiction and emerging writers alongside household names, celebrates its 15th birthday with an anthology of selected works. Editor Dave Eggers remembers the magazine's early days, when it was a "land of misfit writings" that had been rejected from more mainstream publications.
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Dave Eggers made his name writing the bestselling memoir "A Heartbreaking Work of Staggering Genius." He's come out with several novels. He's written a screenplay for the movie "Where the Wild Things Are." But before all that, in the late 1990s, Dave Eggers was a young guy sitting in his kitchen, tearing open envelopes filled with literary submissions.

DAVE EGGERS: Mostly articles that were killed from larger, more reputable magazines and journals, so it was sort of a land of misfit writings, I guess. Pieces that were too strange, too untimely, too short, too long, too experimental.

MONTAGNE: But perfect for a quirky literary magazine he was putting together. A magazine he called "Timothy McSweeney's Quarterly Concern," which is now celebrating its 15th birthday. To mark that milestone, Eggers is out with a hefty "Best of McSweeney's Anthology."

First, Dave Eggers, I want to explain how it all began. I have the very first issue of McSweeney's. I'm looking, it says: Timothy McSweeney's Quarterly concern, welcome to our bunker. And the lettering gets progressively smaller. It looks very old fashion. What were you going for in this very first issue?

EGGERS: Well, I was working at some bigger magazines at the time and this was sort of a reaction to sort of bring it back to the text only and make a very uncomplicated journal that was a little bit of a throwback. I collected a lot of, you know, pamphlets and bibles and medical reference books from the 17th, 18th, 19th century. And there was that kind of intimacy in a lot of these books that would speak directly to the reader, like, this is the greatest, you know, book that you have ever owned. It replaces all other texts, you know. Read nothing else. I mean, there was a real kind of intimacy, and at the same time kind of a blustery salesmanship to those journals. And so I was kind of playing on that for a while.

MONTAGNE: Over the last 15 years, McSweeney's has growth into something of a literary empire based in San Francisco, and that flagship literary quarterly has evolved from a plain-looking throwback to the 19th century to an intriguing array of what can be eye-popping designs an visual puns.

One issue came out in the form of a pile of junk mail. Another contained a short story printed on giant playing cards, readable any way the cards were dealt.

EGGERS: It was one issue that was a giant box, you know, with a head painted on it. So, when you put it on yourself, it looks like you have disembodied head on yourself. I think we wanted the journal to work on all those different levels, to surprise and delight on an object level and design level, but also that when you get into the stories, you get phenomenal new writing.

MONTAGNE: From big names like Michael Chabon, David Foster Wallace and Zadie Smith, and all manner of emerging voices. The new best of collection reflects that history. It begins with McSweeney's mock letters section, easily its goofiest offering. Typical is a letter from one Tom O'Donnell, read here by the author, lamenting his very peculiar concern.

TOM O'DONNELL: (Reading) Dear McSweeney's: I have a common name. According to some estimates, nearly 40 percent of men are named Tom O'Donnell. In the time it took me to write this sentence, chances are you named at least one of your children Tom O'Donnell. This would all be fine if it were still Bible times, but today it's a problem. Why? Because it's basically impossible to Google myself.

MONTAGNE: Tom O'Donnell is hoping, in his increasingly demented letter, that McSweeney's will hold a contest or a poll or perhaps a tournament to find him a new name.

O'DONNELL: (Reading) I've have narrowed down my list of potential replacements to the following: Vladislav Fukuyama-Gomez. I love names that combine several different ethnicities because they're used in movies to tell you it's the future. Dennis Pulley: I can think of no better way to honor my great grandfather's memory than by taking the name of the man he killed. Quiznos Presents Todd DeMoss. Sure, it's a mouthful, but so is the delicious Chipotle Prime Rib sandwich, only available at Quiznos.

MONTAGNE: And so on.

EGGERS: I love that section. The first bunch of issues had literary humor in it, which was a form that kind of neglected at the time. So we wanted to be a home for that, and that became the letters section.

MONTAGNE: The letters section, one tiny corner of the McSweeney's experience. The journal also takes on the intimate, the real, the tragic. Among the short story writers found in McSweeney's who come from places you hear about in the news is Nyuol Tong.

As a child, he fled with his family the war in Southern Sudan. He's still just 22, and joined us from Duke University, where he's a senior.

Nyuol Tong, your story in here, it's called "The Bastard." It talks about a mother and son traveling to the capital of South Sudan to find the son's father. Could you read us a little excerpt from that?

NYUOL TONG: (Reading) After exchanging pleasantries, he adjusted himself in his chair, faced us directly, and confirmed the rumor spread by various relatives that what he and Mama had done, on the grass-covered shores of the Loll River 15 years ago - never mind that it begot me - was awoc, a mistake. He wanted nothing to do with us, he said, and would be grateful if we never contacted him again. Then he rose up, fixed his blue tie, buttoned his black suit, and disappeared.

MONTAGNE: I guess, in a sense, this is a sense a story about the impact of a war. But it's about a mother and a son. It's about a part of life that, a lot of times, you don't get from journalism, which emphasizes, you know, terrible events happening, and then moving on to, sometimes, the next terrible event.

TONG: Absolutely. I think the war - however large - is really made up of smaller wars, struggles that are almost universal. In fact, these are the only struggles that we can relate to, regardless of where we live.

MONTAGNE: Dave Eggers, when you hear a story like Nyuol Tong's story, what does that say about how you expect the magazine to go in the years to come?

EGGERS: I think our scope has become more and more expansive every year, from being a more experimental journal to one that embraces any great writing. And it's really due to the $45 subscriptions from...


EGGERS: It's probably not $45.

MONTAGNE: Its 55 now, by the way.


EGGERS: Yeah, I know. I always - it is kind of like public radio. You know, we have to put out the same kind of pledge, you know, calls to support what should be a really unprofitable endeavor. We're an operation that has never made a profit, but at least we exist. And to exist as a literary journal for 15 years, we feel incredibly lucky.


MONTAGNE: Dave Eggers. His anthology, "The Best of McSweeney's," is out this week.

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