STEVE INSKEEP, HOST:
On this Friday before Veterans Day, we update a StoryCorps conversation from several years ago. In 2011, we heard retired Army Sgt. 1st Class Max Voelz. He remembered his wife, Staff Sgt. Kim Voelz. Both served in Iraq in explosive ordinance disposal, the Army's elite bomb squad.
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SERGEANT FIRST CLASS MAX VOELZ: We deployed in 2003. We were in the same unit. And she ripped bombs apart by hand in Iraq just like I did. But she died on a incident that I sent her on. She was in a medically induced coma when I got to the hospital. The nurses were telling me to talk to her because they assured me that they had seen people come out of comas before and that they remembered hearing things that people said.
I mean, what are you going to tell your wife who is dying? That you love her and you don't want her to die? But I knew she was dead a long time before the doctors stopped working on her. You hold someone's hand and it feels different.
I got married to her when I was 25. Our plan was to retire from the Army. Now I'm 36 and I still don't have a plan. I am an Army widower. I don't think there's very many of us. And when I receive a condolence letter from a high-ranking government official that says Mrs. Voelz, we're sorry for the loss of your husband, it just makes it seem like nobody knows we exist.
INSKEEP: Max Voelz remembering his wife Staff Sgt. Kim Voelz, killed disarming an IED. Around the time he recorded that interview, Max turned to another bomb tech, Sgt. Mary Dague, for support. She lost both her arms in Iraq. They talked a lot during Max's lowest points, but only met face-to-face recently for this interview.
SERGEANT MARY DAGUE: Why did you first contact me?
VOELZ: I was in a pretty dark spot at the time. And another bomb tech thought that talking to you would help. And it did.
DAGUE: I remember it took a while to get you to talk.
VOELZ: Yeah, then I wouldn't shut up.
DAGUE: I'm OK with that. I really just wanted to reach through the computer and hug you. Like it's OK - well, it's not OK, but it'll get better.
DAGUE: You do seem a lot happier.
VOELZ: I'm glad. (Laughter) I am. I mean, I'm always going to have the can't sleep and the nightmares. But basically, you have a gift of helping people who are depressed. Where does your attitude come from?
DAGUE: When I was young, I was very soft. I cried a lot. And right after high school, I was engaged. And his mom pulled me into the kitchen making dinner one day and was like don't worry, Mary, I'm going to train you to be the perfect housewife. That scared the hell out of me. I was like - I joined the Army like a week later.
VOELZ: How were you injured? What happened?
DAGUE: We got a call for an IED that the Iraqi army picked up. So I got it in the truck and I laid it down in there. And it started to roll off. And I went to grab it and it detonated. I could hear this woman screaming and screaming, and then I realized that was me.
VOELZ: What kind of stuff do you have to deal with on a daily basis because of your injuries?
DAGUE: I'll tell you, the worst part is I've never really liked being the center of attention.
VOELZ: And now you've got a big sign on your forehead?
DAGUE: Yeah. But I have quite the collection of T-shirts. They say things like Worst Drummer Ever. I have one that's got a big thumbs-up and it says Thumb Wrestling Champion. I guess the way I look at it is, yeah, I lost my arms. And I'm mostly deaf. My face is scared to [bleep]. But all of that has led to some really amazing opportunities. And I've helped a lot of people. I don't know if I could lead a happier life now.
INSKEEP: That's Mary Dague, who lost both her arms in Iraq, speaking with Max Voelz. Find their conversation and others at StoryCorp on the podcast at iTunes and at NPR.org.
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