RENEE MONTAGNE, HOST:
Let's get an update now on the months-long protests against a massive oil pipeline about to be built in North Dakota. The Standing Rock Sioux tribe has gotten international attention in their quest to stop a pipeline they say would pass through their traditional lands, threatening to contaminate their sacred sites and their water. Last weekend, more than a hundred protesters were arrested when they crossed over into private land along the pipeline's path, a police response the tribe called heavy-handed. For more, we reached tribal Chairman David Archambault II.
CHAIRMAN DAVID ARCHAMBAULT II: Good morning.
MONTAGNE: You characterized that the state had militarized the reservation. But I'm wondering what response are you - have you thought through your response?
ARCHAMBAULT: What we're doing right now is we're asking everybody to remain prayerful and peaceful and not to react to any form of aggression that law enforcement brings. We don't want to see the construction workers get hurt. We don't want to see law enforcement get hurt. And we definitely don't want to see people who are standing up to protect water to get hurt. And by no means when I say everybody who's standing to protect the water are angels, but when you have law enforcement bringing aggression and when you have law enforcement and the company boxing everybody into a corner, it's really hard to resist reacting.
MONTAGNE: In a letter you sent a couple of days ago to the Justice Department, you wrote that the Standing Rock Sioux tribe has a deep abiding interest in protecting sacred sites, treaty rights, water, all those things. Break down for us how the pipeline is endangering them.
ARCHAMBAULT: So when this pipeline comes through, it's putting our safe drinking water at risk. And it's also going through areas that were our original treaty lands. And what happened was that the federal government entered in a contract with our tribal nations, the Great Sioux Nation that identified lands that we agreed to because we knew that there are sacred sites there.
MONTAGNE: You're talking the mid-1800s.
ARCHAMBAULT: 1851. But, you know, this is what's kind of disturbing is the Westerners kept coming. And they kept encroaching on that land.
MONTAGNE: Regarding ownership of the land, clearly these treaties were broken, and they were broken over time, beginning a very long time ago. But at this moment in time, the land does legally belong to the company Energy Transfer Partners, the oil company. As of this moment, I gather, the protesters have physically, in the last few days, moved onto that property. Is that ratcheting up the whole protest?
ARCHAMBAULT: You have look at what our purpose is. What are we doing? And why are we doing it? Our purpose is to protect the water. And no matter what we do, nobody cares. And it's just like they're going to force this down our throats again.
MONTAGNE: Well, let me ask you, this pipeline helps North Dakota take advantage of newly discovered oil. It's seen as important for the economy there. Does that not benefit the people of the Standing Rock Sioux tribe as well?
ARCHAMBAULT: No, there's no benefit.
MONTAGNE: Even jobs?
ARCHAMBAULT: There's no benefit to Standing Rock Sioux tribe and the members for the destruction of land in North Dakota to extract fossil fuels. Here's what's happening. The oil industry - the price a barrel was dropping, so the Bakken crude extraction has dropped by 80 percent. We're building this pipeline, and the crude oil is dirty oil that takes a lot of energy to refine. So they want to pipe this oil and threaten fresh, clean water, threaten the environment, have eminent domain takings for the purpose of who? Who benefits from it? It's the billionaires who have oil interests, who want to make more money. So this becomes more about greed.
MONTAGNE: This protest has become a sort of rallying cry for indigenous people who've come from as far away as Hawaii. Did you expect that?
ARCHAMBAULT: No, I didn't expect. You know, we have support from around the world. We have support from over two dozen cities - major cities. We have support from indigenous peoples in other countries. I can't tell you how much I appreciate people willing to stand beside us as we go up against federal government, go up against state government and go up against large oil industry companies. We have no power. But the only thing that we have is support from around the world.
MONTAGNE: David Archambault is chairman of the Standing Rock Sioux tribe.
Thank you very much for joining us.
ARCHAMBAULT: You're welcome. Thank you for having me.
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